Media watch – Sunday

6 August 2017


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  1. Missy

     /  August 6, 2017

    Three US Marines missing after a helicopter crash off the coast of Australia. The Marines were part of a group of US personnel taking part in Exercise Talisman Sabre.

    • NOEL

       /  August 6, 2017

      Sign of a lazy press?
      Tilt roter AIRCRAFT.

      • Gezza

         /  August 6, 2017

        They’re a bloody disaster, those V-22 Ospreys.

        • Missy

           /  August 6, 2017

          been a few incidents and accidents with them over the last few years I believe.

          • Gezza

             /  August 6, 2017

            They had no end of trouble in development with crashes n stuff Missy. They cost a bloody fortune to make them stable flyable & proceeding with them was just a hugely expensive pet vanity project of the Marine High-Ups, I gather. Be better off just using Blackhawks.

      • Missy

         /  August 6, 2017

        I assume you are suggesting that the Osprey isn’t an aircraft since that is what you have highlighted in capitals.

        Technically they are correct, within the military at the very least, helicopters are referred to as rotary aircraft. The airforce has two wings for the pilots, rotary and fixed wing – both are aircraft. I believe in civilian air industry they are referred to in the same way.

  2. chrism56

     /  August 6, 2017

    Why no mention of the Crusaders victory?

  3. Anything that could be construed as an attack on Ardern from National is likely to be pushed like this:

    It’s going to be difficult for National to deal with this.

  4. Another Internet Party attempt at a ‘moment of truth’:

  5. PDB

     /  August 6, 2017

    Basic journalist question for Ardern – why is Turei seen as being ‘unfit’ for her cabinet if in govt but OK to be a sitting MP and Greens co-leader in that same govt? Where is the cut off point? Does this mean that an MP breaking the law is OK to an extent? Will she rule out Turei EVER becoming a cabinet minister in any govt she might lead?

    Herald: “Ardern said she did not speak to Turei directly, but her party conveyed to the Greens this morning that Turei would not have a place in Cabinet if she was Prime Minister.
    Since becoming party leader on Tuesday, Ardern has refused to comment on the issue.
    Even today, she would not specifically identify what Turei had done wrong to warrant being blocked from Cabinet.”

    Is this the ‘strong leadership’ the MSM keep telling us about?

    • Gezza

       /  August 6, 2017

      Yep, I reckon. She’s not letting the media push her into a making a potentially problematic statement before she sees the lie of the land. It’s still on the cards Ms Turei may have taken herself out with a massive own-goal. Give her a chance PDB. She’s probably got quite a few issues to sort out & hasn’t really had time to focus on your priorities yet.

      National have swung into action,Bill’s staying cool, being the gentleman, not criticising her, & smoothly & confidently explaining why National’s policies are better than Labour’s. Labour’s on a high, but National reckon they’re up to the challenge. Jacinta will have to sell her stuff as being worth doing & worth voting for. If any of it means more direct or indirect taxes for me, I’m not interested, for example. I want to see them spending what the government’s already getting more wisely.

      Maybe send her an email tomorrow – or even tonite – outline your concerns & explain how Labour & she would benefit from doing what you want?

      Contact Jacinda Ardern
      Electorate office based in Mt Albert
      Address: 658 New North Road, Morningside, Auckland
Phone: 09 845 1919

      Parliamentary office
      Address: Freepost PO Box 18 888, Parliament Buildings, Wellington 6160
Phone: 04 817 9388


  6. sorethumb

     /  August 6, 2017

    Mediawatch RNZ want to have more variety in political commentary – picking out Hooten and Hoskings.

    Personally I like Hooten and not Hoskings.

    Hooten would never call high house prices a “sign of success” or claim that in tourism “we are doing everything right” when (while it is a large pie), the pie is served into such small pieces.
    I see the problem, though as a lack of objective oversight. To me a duopoly exists: the corporate clients of the networks and their interests on the one hand and the internationalist, progressive (PC) left on the other. I’ve never had much faith in RNZ’s Mediawatch.

  7. sorethumb

     /  August 6, 2017

    Radio NZ sounding like Eastern Germany propaganda.

    I don’t recall thinking that Tasman discovering of New Zealand in 1642 precluded Maori discovery?
    Maragret Mutu says they visit Shanghai (home of the big property development company) to observe Chinese people. She thinks there will be no problem with Chinese and “Maori culture is primarily about people” [here’s me thinking Maori were territorial].She says that Auckland is full of Asians and it is all just part of an on-going (as in natural ) process.
    Etc, Etc. The second to last statement is about racist old white men and the last one is that the young are used to migration because it is all they have known.
    Mathew Hooten is good he says If bill English wants the population of Auckland to be 2.5 million he should get up and say so “but I’ve never heard him say that in a speech”

    • sorethumb

       /  August 6, 2017

      And the National Party is right behind them