Q+A – Ardern and Davis

Jacinda Ardern and Labour continue their media blitz on Q+A this morning.

Ardern won’t be making her Sunday policy announcement until later today but she and Labour are grabbing every promotional opportunity on offer. She tag teams again with Kelvin Davis (a repeat of The Nation yesterday).

Ardern and Davis are being interviewed separately.

Ardern first:

How is the Labour Party of last week different now? Leadership is now a major part of politics and campaigning.

Talking about a regional fuel tax in Auckland to fund transport infrastructure.

She won’t be campaigning on a Capital Gains tax this election, but it will be considered post-election.

Retirement age (actually age of eligibility for super) – not campaigning on that.

Taking votes from the Greens? She will appeal to voters from anywhere and won’t mention specific blocs.

‘Relentlessly positive’ again, and she wants to grow a vision for New Zealand.

She mentions those who ‘sit in the middle’ – a key voting bloc.

Then Kelvin Davis joins in.

Davis just went through a list of disses of other politicians, which means that the attacks on Paula Bennett for dissing Ardern are just that, one sided attacks. I’ll post more on this when I get the transcript.

Post on this: Comparing deputy attacks

 

35 Comments

  1. That’ll have an audience of about 5,000, most of them will be media commentators.

    • Gezza

       /  August 6, 2017

      Very cruel trav. 😠 Might be more than that. 🤔 It’s a totally new act. 🤗

      • Totally new act??? Lol. It’s rearranging the chairs on the Titanic. Those two have been around forever. She’s been trotted out as the saviour for months and he’s been whipping up to Manus to argue for the rights of criminals for longer. They’re both insubstantial imho. A lot of fuss about a good looking Māori bloke and a woman in polka dots.

        As for the airport link. Seriously the Greens put this out a month ago

        https://www.greens.org.nz/news/press-release/greens-fast-track-airport-rail-america’s-cup

        • Gezza

           /  August 6, 2017

          They might have previously hidden mojo ? 😳
          With the leaders they’ve had to put up with since Aunty H, if you had any mojo it’d be best to just sit on it for now ? 😬
          Until the time was right 👍🏼

    • And it will be fodder for 1 News today and tonight.

  2. Let the poor beggars have their five minutes.
    Not as if they haven’t screwed their parliamentary mates to get there.
    And why they wont remain.
    The little fat fairy will make sure of that

    • phantom snowflake

       /  August 6, 2017

      “little fat fairy”?? FFS it’s 2017; where have you been? Sad for you that there are no politicians to represent your 1940s views since the demise of John Banks…

  3. sorethumb

     /  August 6, 2017

    Labour has new mike.

  4. Alan Wilkinson

     /  August 6, 2017

    “Considered post election” sounds really trustworthy doesn’t it? And what on earth is policy “we won’t campaign on that” ?

    She’s as woolly as a cast sheep. Time to eat her for dinner.

    • Gezza

       /  August 6, 2017

      Not liking the sound of that Al. I’d better watch it in the Plus One channel.

      Ma was all excited – she’s got off the blower & she told me “that Kevin Davis was gonna be on”, with “that new girl”. She’s read about her in Woman’s Day, and she also saw her on the tv with “those school girls” and she thought she was “quite smart”. And she “dresses well”. Labour’s got it sewn up already down in her whare I reckon. Two ticks probably.

      You could be a bit biased … put ya Mrs on ?

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  August 6, 2017

        Don’t think she’s seen her yet. TV left with a smoking hole after Turei came on.

    • PDB

       /  August 6, 2017

      PG: “She won’t be campaigning on a Capital Gains tax this election, but it will be considered post-election.”

      Does this mean she won’t consider capital gains tax prior to the election as it’s an election killer but might implement it once in govt? Will raising taxes to pay for all their promises be dealt with similarly?

      Say what you like about Key but he was always upfront as to what you were voting for in terms of major policy like partial-asset sales.

      • I think that if they get into government and their tax working group recommends a CGT they will have to take it to the next election.

      • Blazer

         /  August 6, 2017

        Sure he was ..GST!

        • PDB

           /  August 6, 2017

          Yep – didn’t agree with that either – though to be fair I don’t think it was ever set in stone (actual policy) that National wouldn’t raise GST, it was some media stand-up where he was videoed saying he wouldn’t resort to that prior to the 2008 election.

  5. artcroft

     /  August 6, 2017

    Both Jacinda and Kelvin really know how to do an interview. Bill is now a media liability that National will have to drag across the finish line. It makes for an interesting election.

    • Gezza

       /  August 6, 2017

      They both came over well. Kelvin’s a real comic – they’ll like him on marae – but National voters are tweeting their disgust at his attacking their chaps & chappesses.

      Jacinda controlled & owned that interview. Confident. Some might say she got an easy ride but I think she’s just got the smarts to do that.

      Some of their policy or intending policy I might have some reservations about – but that’s what I come here for. Looking forward to posters’ arguments & analysis here as we head into the election.

    • PDB

       /  August 6, 2017

      They are getting very soft, very friendly interviews though – the fact is they are being very vague on policy and therefore the questioning is not very strong. Apparently policy isn’t as important as being ‘positive’. Good cop, bad cop with Ardern preaching positivity and Kelvin going all attack-dog.

      The left seem to think Ardern is the left version of John Key in the people-charming stakes but the jury is still out if she has much substance behind the well-rehearsed patter. Key was likable but also on top of policy, was good in the face of very aggressive interviewing, and also had a high knowledge on economic matters – all done without having the deputy leader sitting with him holding his hand at every opportunity.

      • Blazer

         /  August 6, 2017

        Davis is not holding her hand. As for Key. ..’it’s a left wing conspiracy. ..and the Greens are. ..barking ‘…basic and predictable.

        • PDB

           /  August 6, 2017

          Why is he there then? How many times has a previous Labour Leader made regular media appearances with their deputy as if they were one-and-the-same when first coming into the role? I’ll tell you – zero times.

          When Ardern was eventually promoted to deputy she too was there to hold Little’s hand. The deputy role is basically in name only as in any future govt that position is likely to go to a member of a coalition party.

          • Blazer

             /  August 6, 2017

            They are both new appointments. ..meet the. .people.

          • Pete Kane

             /  August 6, 2017

            In the 2 years of MMP, the Deputy PM post has been with a coalition partner for roughly 5 years. Didn’t need to look that up, but then I’m not an alternative facts (or memory) guy.

            • Pete Kane

               /  August 6, 2017

              Sorry – 21 years

            • PDB

               /  August 6, 2017

              You’re comparing apples with oranges by comparing large one-party majority MMP govts with a possible future & much weaker Labour-led govt that needs support from 2 very strong allies in order to govern.

            • Gezza

               /  August 6, 2017

              Sorry – 21 years
              Just as well you remembered ! 😀

            • PDB

               /  August 6, 2017

              To add: Stuff – “The Green Party has an eye for the role of deputy prime minister, if it finds itself in such a bargaining position, after the next election. And that would “almost certainly” fall to Metiria Turei, her co-leader James Shaw said.”

              I note neither Turei or Ardern has ruled Turei out of being deputy PM…….

      • Gezza

         /  August 6, 2017

        John Key always got soft interviews on Q&A, PDB.

        Tracy Watkins once interviewed him in a cafe & even took her glasses off & batted her eyelashes at him so ferociously when he spoke Bronagh would probably have scratched her eyes out if she’d been there.

        Nats have got a contest on their hands I reckon. All good. 👍🏼

        • PDB

           /  August 6, 2017

          Currently Ardern is getting soft interviews EVERYWHERE she goes – Key definitely wasn’t afforded that. Just listen to Ardern’s recent talk with John Campbell for a good example.

          • Gezza

             /  August 6, 2017

            He was probably batting his eyelashes too. 😖

  6. lurcher1948

     /  August 6, 2017

    No one is talking about National and Bill English,it’s as if they don’t exist and that’s priceless.

  7. PDB

     /  August 6, 2017

    Herald: Davis: “We have got Jonathan Coleman the doctor of death, we have got Steven Joyce who is as authentic as a $4 Rolex, we’ve got Gerry Brownlee who has got the energy of a small hill, we’ve got Simon Bridges – the only person under 80 who still buys Brylcreem, and Judith Collins, look her stare caused that ice shelf in Antarctica to crack off and float away.”
    Ardern then pitched in: “and we’ve got Kelvin Davis the free speaker”.

    Loving the ‘positivity’! Sounds like the same old Labour to me………

    • Gezza

       /  August 6, 2017

      What’s wrong with those? 😳 John Cleese would be happy with those. 😬
      God! You jokers. 😠 Ya moan that lefties are humourless. Then ya moan when they’re a laff a minute 🙄

  8. Chuck Bird

     /  August 6, 2017

    I think Davis’s personal attacks on the Nat MPs was planned in advance and approved by Jacinda. Neither of them are stupid people. They would know it could put off some voters on the general roll especially in light of Jacinda’s positive message.

    The rant was not for them for the Maori in Hone’s electorate.