Green’s troubles aren’t over

Metiria Turei’s announcement that she will step down as co-leader of the Green Party yesterday may take some of the heat off their turmoil, but their problems are far from over.

They now have to try to cobble together a campaign for the election on 23 September – advance voting starts in a month, on 11 September.

James Shaw will be sole leader of the party for the rest of the campaign. He looked worn out over the last week trying to manage an escalating party crisis. He will have to try to step up and present a positive face. He has looked weak at times, he has to try to turn that around.

All the Green billboards may need attention. They feature both Shaw and Turei and the caption ‘Great Together’.

Their online presence also needs a makeover. This is now out of date:

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That togetherness doesn’t look great now.

The normally slick Green machine seems to be in shock. Normally very active on social media, the seem to be MIA. Their website still shows Turei as co-leader and number one in their pecking order.

But the hardest part will be in wider media, trying to repair the damage and look a credible option for the rest of the campaign.  There is a real risk that the mainstream media will either keep highlighting their problems, or moving on to other parties.

Two polls reported yesterday had the Greens plummeting to 8%, barely half of recent highs. They were taken before Turei stepped down, and polls typically take a while to respond to what is happening in the news. They could bounce back a bit, but they could just as easily slip some more.

The Green image is very tarnished after Metiria’s mission gamble blew up on her and her party. Patching over the cracks – or chasms – in the party won’t be easy in the short timeframe left.

Shaw and the remaining Green MPs and candidates are also tainted, having backed Turei to the hilt on her no contrition stance, approving of Turei breaking the law in what are now dubious circumstances, and sending signals of approval that beneficiaries could justify breaking rules if they decided they were deserving of more taxpayer assistance.

Two MPs quit on principle over this and were attacked by party officials and on social media, and Shaw himself threatened to dump them from the party but later thought better of that.

Somehow the Green caucus and party has to save face with their staunch core of supporters, but also convince soft and floating voters that the party still has some principles and isn’t corrupted by double standards.

It’s hard to see them recovering much ground. They may hold where they are, below their 2014 election level of support. Or they could keep digging the hole that was started by Turei and then joined with jackhammers by the remaining green leader and caucus.

This has been a dramatic crash for the Greens, and it is mostly of their own doing through their self righteousness, their enbubbled vision, and their flawed championing of an entitlement syndrome.

This has been a Green disaster.

37 Comments

  1. adamsmith1922

     /  August 10, 2017

    The Greens were the architects of their own downfall. Given their past record of being holier than thou and the rapidity at which they would call for others to resign they get no sympathy from me. Right to the end Turei and her acolytes are blaming others for their own stupidity and lack of honesty and integrity. The way Green officials and activists attacked Graham and Clendon was vomit inducing.

  2. Gezza

     /  August 10, 2017

    They’re stuffed. To use Blazer’s word it was a total clusterfuck. They won’t be winning back any lost support. They could even dive lower yet in the polls after James took Metiria’s own goal as it rolled out again and booted it right through the back of the net!

    • Gezza

       /  August 10, 2017

      I popped over to TS late last night for a quick shufti but I didn’t hang around long because it was too depressing.

  3. David

     /  August 10, 2017

    If Turei is stepping down, as she should, wouldnt it be best if she wasnt standing in an electorate and just quietly went away.

    • After what has happened in the last month her electorate chances look shot, but she may like to travel around the South Island while she still has free travel.

      • David

         /  August 10, 2017

        After fires, earthquakes and flooding not sure what we have done to deserve her company…let alone pay for it.

      • Corky

         /  August 10, 2017

        Cruel.

  4. High Flying Duck

     /  August 10, 2017

    Interesting ccounterpoint given the immediate cleansing of Kennedy & Graham from all things Green.
    It seems the party is still wanting to cling to that magical Turei influence.

    • High Flying Duck

       /  August 10, 2017

      * David and Kennedy or Clendon & Graham…take your pick.

    • Alloytoo

       /  August 10, 2017

      Interestingly David and Kennedy drew a principled line in the sand. It might as well have been a brick wall for the rest of caucus, especially now. The party needs a complete purge of caucus if they want to survive. David and Kennedy are the only ones untainted.

  5. Tipene

     /  August 10, 2017

    The Greens support has halved in two weeks – internal cannibalism will take care of the rest.

    Vegans eating each other – ironic much?

  6. Hard to agree with that.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  August 10, 2017

      They have been in worse shape ????

      WHEN ???

    • Gezza

       /  August 10, 2017

      Dreaming. Stop listening to ya mums. Wake up!

  7. Corky

     /  August 10, 2017

    What lessons have learnt from the MT episode?

    Well, when someone tells you: ”honestly is the best policy,” say: ” dude, remember MT? ”

    • Blazer

       /  August 10, 2017

      Email. ..Bennett. .before it’s too..late.

      • Corky

         /  August 10, 2017

        What are you talking about? What are you insinuating? Spell it out?

  8. PDB

     /  August 10, 2017

    How stupid was Turei in thinking she could come out in the open and pretend she was once one of the struggling beneficiaries that solely depend on a benefit due to circumstances outside their control?

    Did she not think that the media would look into her claims and past living arrangements?

    Did she not think that saying her mum, in-laws, relatives, friends, father of her child, boyfriend essentially abandoned her financially wouldn’t cause them to become pissed off if untrue?

    Did she not think that not being remorseful about her offending, not initially making arrangements to pay back money owed, not being grateful for any help the taxpayer gave her would endear herself to the general public?

    Did she think?

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  August 10, 2017

      I was thinking about that last night.

      Her picture of the brave single mother struggling to feed her baby and being in danger of going hungry or not having a roof over her head must have been extremely offensive to her own family and the baby’s father’s family who were made to look heartless and uncaring. The father and his parents are well-off financially, but were too mean to stop a small child starving.

      She did later say that she’d had support (not, of course, saying what kind of support) from them-she seemed to be trying to have a bob each way.

      Both of these cannot be true.

  9. Blazer

     /  August 10, 2017

    lets hope the media now chase this one..down.

    Speaking of. ..be interested to see the microscope go on National fav, the rubenesque Bennet who ‘was off and on the benefit but never DELIBERATELY mislead. .welfare ‘…see if comments here are in the same. ..vein. Looks like a big story. ..to me..going by even the confirmation that at that time, her then boyfriend is now her. ..husband!

    • Corky

       /  August 10, 2017

      So, are you saying she committed fraud? What’s the big story you talk of?

      • Blazer

         /  August 10, 2017

        why the lawyers trying to heavy people with knowledge of her situation?’Nothing to hide,nothing to…fear’.

        • Corky

           /  August 10, 2017

          Answer the question.

          • Blazer

             /  August 10, 2017

            the answer at this point is…alot of smoke.

            • Corky

               /  August 10, 2017

              The answer at this point is you are using the typical lefty device of insinuation.

            • Blazer

               /  August 10, 2017

              not a lefty device at all…allegations have been made.My suggestions are tame.You are biased.

    • PDB

       /  August 10, 2017

      Blazer is just spreading unfounded rumours started up on facebook that the MSM wont even touch.

      May I suggest that the fact Bennett ‘was off and on the benefit’ suggests that she is more likely to have been honest by only claiming the benefit when she was entitled to it? Benefit fraudsters in the main stay on a benefit to make as much money as possible regardless of their personal situation changing.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  August 10, 2017

        I think that he means that her husband is her daughter’s father, which is nobody’s business but theirs-I don’t think that he is, but can’t see what it would have to do with anything if he was. Non-story.

      • Blazer

         /  August 10, 2017

        may I suggest that earnings may have ‘over lapped’….and also it must have been hard in that situation as a solo to save a deposit for a…house.

        • Brown

           /  August 10, 2017

          You can suggest all sorts of things but they remain suggestions and a cheap shot until some facts emerge. If there was dirt I have no doubt the MSM would be all over it.

          • Blazer

             /  August 10, 2017

            well you have no problem with PDB’s…suggestion.The Natz have buried it…as they…do.They tried the same tactic with Barclay….but it….surfaced.

  10. sorethumb

     /  August 10, 2017

    Pep Talk Mad Marama
    https://thestandard.org.nz/green-mp-marama-davidson-on-keeping-the-faith/
    Any Comments via the North Korean Embassy?

    • sorethumb

       /  August 10, 2017

      Kinda like from a jungle camp in battle fatigues and we must root out dissenters Wayne- up against the wall for that one.

  11. sorethumb

     /  August 10, 2017

    Pete George Says: Green’s troubles aren’t over

    Posted on August 9, 2017 by leoniepihama
    Maori, woman, mother: #IamMetiria

    I hate election year. I hate elections. They are the epitome of colonial control. A year when the height of white privilege is guaranteed to reign supreme in its effort to demean anything Māori. National elections are our constant reminder of the failure of the Crown as a Treaty partner to accept the tino rangatiratanga, the inherent sovereignty held by our hapū and iwi in Aotearoa. In fact issues of the failure to honour tino rangatiratanga, mana motuhake or Māori sovereignty is rarely even discussed in election year, unless asserted by those that the government then marginalise as ‘trouble makers’ ‘seditious’ or ‘haters and wreckers’.
    https://leoniepihama.wordpress.com/2017/08/09/maori-woman-mother-iammetiria/
    http://www.tutamawahine.org.nz/tihea_mauri_ora
    ……..
    In my assessment they are deeply rooted

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