Poll rumour worse for Greens

Steven Mills has just been talking about polls on RNZ (he’s from UMR).

He said their are rumours around that National’s tracking poll has Greens down to 4.8%.

He said that that is believable as the UMR poll with them down 7 to 8% was taken before Graham and Clendon resigned, and before Turei stepped down.

He thinks Greens should get back into Parliament, but they may be substantially smaller than they are now.

And following that James Shaw is being interviewed.

He says that it will be tough for either David Clendon or Kennedy Graham to return to the Green list now Turei has stepped down.

He said that Clendon has indicated he isn’t interested, but Graham is having discussions with the party.

Shaw says he feels he did the right thing in fully supporting Turei, and said she also had the full support of the Green caucus, but that is obviously inaccurate given that Clendon and Graham resigned in protest.

He is blaming the media for putting pressure on Turei and forcing her to step down.

Shaw says he will remain sole leader until the election and beyond, and unless something else intervenes the co-leadership won’t be addressed until the next party AGM next July. That would be extraordinary.

24 Comments

  1. sorethumb

     /  August 10, 2017

    Sickening that Eugenie Sage once head of Forest and Bird backs the charlatan Turie.

    • sorethumb

       /  August 10, 2017

      They look like a scared bunch from some leftist totalitarian regime: “Yes! Holy Leader”

      • Gezza

         /  August 10, 2017

        Fuxake! Who’s Turie? Even my bloody tuakana iMessaged me last nite to inform me “Turia’s gone!”. 😳

        • High Flying Duck

           /  August 10, 2017

          She’s Jacinta’s mate isn’t she?

  2. sorethumb

     /  August 10, 2017

    I heard there was a fire brigade turn out in Riverton as someone’s head caught fire. Lucky there was a bucket handy.

  3. I see moves are now underway to reinstate Kennedy Graham to the Green Party’s list. At least he has been on the right side of this scandal, unlike James Shaw.

  4. Zedd

     /  August 10, 2017

    Yes,, why not continue laying the boot in, while their down.. you must feel ‘REAL GOOD’ eh ?

    roll on 23/9 🙂

    • Brown

       /  August 10, 2017

      As much as I regret to admit it, in this case putting the boot in does feel, if not good, necessary. On 23/9 some Green troughers will be out on their arse because of the useless crooked slug and good job. I hope man without balls Shaw is among them.

      • He needs to go and he needs to go NOW. The only thing that could possibly save them from sub 5% is a quick bloodletting kill and a Graham/Genter team

    • Trevors_elbow

       /  August 10, 2017

      Todd Barclay… didnt see the left stop kickinh.. suck it up petal. Sauce for the goose and all that

      • Blazer

         /  August 10, 2017

        Winston is doing the kickin…hardly left…..Gretel.

        • Trevors_elbow

           /  August 10, 2017

          Oh blaze your such a precious thing…. Winnie made have run the hit but labour and the greens have been in up to and above their armpits….. No surprise you won’t admit that though….

      • Zedd

         /  August 10, 2017

        get stuffed… petal

        Metiria’s ‘indiscretions’ were 25 years ago (before she entered parliament).. not 25 minutes

        • Trevors_elbow

           /  August 10, 2017

          Did we feel triggered zeddy? MeTu swindled the taxpayer, has been less than honest about it, played the victim card and still not taken responsibility….

          I see a safe space just of the shore in south dunners for you citizen z

          • Blazer

             /  August 10, 2017

            desperate bastard…write it out a thousand times…talk about schadenfreude.

  5. Blazer

     /  August 10, 2017

    only one Green supporter on this thread.All the’ sage’ advice coming from the bloodlusting right wing.

    • Brown

       /  August 10, 2017

      Not blood letting which is what you lefties do so well. Justice.

    • Gezza

       /  August 10, 2017

      Only one Green supporter? Who are you talking about? Zedd or Pete Kane?

    • And all the bluster and deflection coming from blazer

  6. Zedd

     /  August 10, 2017

    Unfortunately methinks.. that many still dont understand MMP; NZ politics is not supposed to be a 2 horse FPP race !
    The more parties in the parliament the better, representing the true diversity out there.
    Do we really want this to turn into a USA or UK, Right V Left (Rep/Dem or Lab/Tory) with little other choice… Im guessing some in here probably do (or sound like it) ?! 😦

    btw; many polls are saying ‘There is definitley a mood for change’ SO; roll on 23/9 🙂

    3 more years of Natz.. “HELL NO !!” sez I&I

    • Corky

       /  August 10, 2017

      ”The more parties in the parliament the better, representing the true diversity out there.”

      If the parties have no political power they are basically window dressing.

      ”3 more years of Natz.. “HELL NO !!” sez I&I”

      Be careful what you wish for,Zedd%. You have seen the Greens…now imagine a Left government disintegrating

      JA and MT have somewhat dampened my election fervour….but I still have a packet of chippies and a bottle of Cold Duck ( circa 1979) to celebrate the disintegration of the Left once in power.

  7. Missy

     /  August 11, 2017

    I was catching up on some podcasts today and on one of them, sorry can’t remember if it was Larry Williams (with the silly one – Rachel wotsername) or Mike Hosking, but on one of them it was said that the Greens were very popular with the Middle Classes, so a lot of support they are losing, and will lose, is from that demographic. Basically that the Middle Classes do not condone benefit fraud, and will be turned off the Greens by Metiria Turei’s actions and Shaw’s support of her, not to mention the shoddy way that Clendon and Graham were treated.

    Maybe more to come with them leaching that support.

    This will be a problem financially as well. If the Middle Classes decide not to support the Green’s, and the only support they pick up are from the beneficiaries, then where will their donations come from? They might think that they are being noble pandering to the beneficiaries, but the reality is that in order to survive they need the money of the middle classes and if they lose that support then they are doomed.