Turei still shows as co-leader

The Green Party, usuaally slick online, quickly removed Kennedy Graham and David Clendon off their list of ‘Our People’ after they withdrew from the Green Party list.

But Metiria Turei still shows as co-leader and top ranked MP:


Turei still shows as co-leader on her Twitter account:


And the Greens on Facebook:


Still in shock? Or just reluctant to move on from Turei’s leadership?

There have been several Shaw only posts on Facebook…


…but the visible comments aren’t great.

The Greens have a lot to do to try to recover from this.

Shaw is trying to move them on: Shaw calls for calm, defends media

Mr Shaw said it had been “a tough week” for the Green Party caucus.

“Passions are running high. I think people need to breathe through their noses and steady the ship and just get on with the campaign.”

Some supporters have lashed out at media online, accusing reporters of hounding Mrs Turei out of Parliament.

But Mr Shaw said he had “absolutely no hard feelings” for the media.

“In my view, the media have just been doing their job. Some of the interviews have been really tough, but they should have been tough.

“People should just calm down and realise everyone’s just doing their job.”

Earlier in the week, MP Julie-Anne Genter criticised media coverage of the story as a “distraction”.

Greens are still distracted by matters that have to be dealt with.

The party’s executive is also weighing the future of MP Kennedy Graham.

Earlier this week Dr Graham and fellow MP David Clendon pulled their support for Mrs Turei.

Mr Clendon said some colleagues were still bitter.

“Certainly it’s painful at the moment. There is a lot of unease and some fairly raw feelings. We could equally be angry about some of what’s been thrown at us in the last few days.”

Dr Graham is applying to be put back on the party’s list, after he and Mr Clendon asked to be taken off earlier in the week.

Mr Shaw had initially shot down the idea, saying and said Dr Graham had lost his fellow MPs’ trust.

When they withdrew from the party list on Tuesday Shaw threatened to have them thrown out of the party.

But he said it was ultimately up to the party’s executive.

“The view of caucus would be that it would be tough for him to come back, but that is a decision for the executive,” Mr Shaw said.

He expected it would be several days before a decision.

RNZ understands there have already been objections to Dr Graham’s return from within the party’s wider membership.

The party split is still evident. It may take some time to tidy up the mess, but rancour is likely to remain.

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  1. sorethumb

     /  11th August 2017

    Go Marama! [or Catherine Delahunty]

  2. Gezza

     /  11th August 2017

    “Metiria Turei
    Green Party co-leader and MP for
    @NZGgreens. Apparently ‘quite cool’ if a
    little obscure.”

    Yeah. Righto. 😬
    Never heard of him. 😐

  3. Brown

     /  11th August 2017

    The tolerant left do infighting like no other demographic. Hillarious hypocrisy and good fun. Its like RAW but without faking.

  4. Gezza

     /  12th August 2017

    I rather like dukeofurl over at TS. This is about the wonderfulness of James Shaw.

    dukeofurl 4
    11 August 2017 at 10:10 am
    “He acted decisively on the two dissenting MPs.” ?????

    You forgot he flip flopped on that one. First he said they were going to be expelled from the party as well as the caucus for ‘nebulous reasons’

    nek minite- They werent being expelled from the party- the reasons why he changed ? he slept on it!

    Theres been no leadership from him. hes merely been Metiras handbag. If he convinced her to stand down earlier she could have saved her career and in the future this would have been seen as a bump in the road.

    AB 4.1
    11 August 2017 at 10:39 am
    A bit unfair I think – presumably the caucus knew and supported her coming out with this confession in the first place. That done, he has to support her to the point that it’s clear that doing so causes more damage than cutting her loose.
    If you are actually a principled person, that’s a horrible dilemma and I think he got it about right.

    If there was any failure of leadership it was right at the start – not being aware of the levels of irrational hatred directed at beneficiaries in NZ. It is after all a classic ‘wedge’ issue that the right uses against the left – basically you can drive a wedge between the working poor/middle income earners and beneficiaries by casting the latter as lazy bludgers rather than “hardworking NZers”. And naturally, “hardworking NZers” can be persuaded to vote National, the party of aspiration and personal responsibility, blah, blah.

    Somehow we need to get tactically smarter, and address poverty while not even talking about it.

    Dspare 4.1.1
    11 August 2017 at 11:05 am
    The tactics seemed more aimed at getting the politically disengaged to register and vote. It didn’t succeed last election for the IMPs (or rather increased their vote share, but lost Harawira his electorate seat), but the GP has a more solid base. Labour may be more focused on flipping previously National votes that give a juicy +2 advantage (+1 vote for you, -1 to your opponent), but I think the GP are right to be looking at increasing the number of voters rather than shuffling around those who have always participate in elections.

    You don’t win a fight for something by conceding to your enemies; the right to frame the issue their way, before you even begin the struggle.

    I think you are confusing leadership with dictatorship.

    dukeofurl 4.1.2
    11 August 2017 at 11:05 am
    Clearly they didnt know the full extent of her background story- a meeting may have been held with maybe 25 campaign topics covered, some covered in more depth than others. There may have been a general discussion after on the whole approach. I dont know how Green caucus meetings are held obviously, but no one was saying to MT- ” Its a big political mistake to make yourself the poster child for a particular policy”
    Certainly there was no ‘co’ in JS leadership role, he was more as a deputy leader. Then when the worst that could have happened occurred he suddenly showed a
    stalinist approach and vowed to expel the dissenters from the party, which of course he back tracked the next day.
    So many political mistakes shows hes not leadership material, after the election its likely the Greens will get two new leaders

    marty mars
    11 August 2017 at 11:44 am
    rubbish dicko – he has shown more leadership this week than key or english have done over their whole political careers. They are lightweight mush compared to the solidity of Shaw. Can’t wait until he is PM – we would really sort this country out then.

    11 August 2017 at 12:40 pm
    Please, you continue with your deluded thinking. Are you still in high school ?

    marty mars
    11 August 2017 at 1:14 pm
    You got nothing – typical rwnj – good to see everyone noticing what an absolute dim you are too. Nice.

    dukeofurl …
    11 August 2017 at 4:00 pm
    Your idea of serious debate is a juvenile fart when the grown ups are talking

    • And that’s typical of marty mars too – a juvenile farter. He always seems frustrated about having no hard left party to support and takes it out on anyone he judges to be aa ‘RWNJ’ (it’s usually nut jobs who use that term).He’s been like that as long as I’ve observed The Standard.

      • Gezza

         /  12th August 2017

        I’ll bet Kitty would blame the parents!
        Probably not wrong, too. 😕

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