US-North Korea heat rises

The war of words between the USA and North Korea continues unabated.

Egomaniac idiots.

15 Comments

  1. Kevin

     /  August 11, 2017

    Trump is showing what a strong, responsible, and tough leader he is. Problem is Kim Jong-un may be to crazy to listen.

    If North Korea hits the US or any of its territories the US will have to retaliate and retaliate heavily. That’s a given. Would you rather Trump just say “well if we’re attacked we will have to do something in response”?

    • Conspiratoor

       /  August 11, 2017

      The master persuader’s messaging is not meant for North Korea

      • NOEL

         /  August 11, 2017

        That apply to both the US and North Korea?
        Thought so.

    • Corky

       /  August 11, 2017

      Kim Un Dun is full of confidence and power. He has a toy that’s making the world sit up and take notice. The thing is Kim’s toy is untested in the sandpit.

      The Americans have a toy that is well tested in the sandpit. A toy so potent, enemies who have had a previous dealings with these monsters, lose bowel control.

      There’s no way around this situation. If a missile lands near Guam, this plane will be the last thing tens of thousands of NK soldiers see.

      http://www.markkarvon.com/aviationartwarthog.html

    • Joe Bloggs

       /  August 11, 2017

      Talking tough is great if it works, but jumping ahead five steps and threatening fire and fury doesn’t exactly leave any wriggle-room for negotiation. Where’s the out? Where’s the art of this deal?

      The problem that the US faces in North Korea is not that its nuclear deterrent is insufficient; it’s that the American nuclear threat hasn’t convinced North Korea to stop building its own nuclear weapons.

      Let’s be quite clear: the ideal outcome here is a negotiated de-escalation that allows for the US to pursue other avenues to achieve the goal of dismantling Pyongyang’s nuclear arsenal.

      And trump’s bullshit claim to have made the U.S. nuclear arsenal “far stronger and more powerful than ever before” only undermines his credibility, right when it’s needed more than ever.It’s a classic trump moment: a lie that’s relatively unimportant on its own but disturbing and confusing as part of a pattern, and easily proven wrong.

      It’s not the size of the American arsenal that will change NK’s mind — it will require them being convinced that the US poses a credible threat, and few things undermine the credibility of the president like trump’s easily debunked lies.

  2. Strong For Life

     /  August 11, 2017

    This is a difficult and dangerous situation. Clearly, the U.S. could annihilate North Korea but in the process millions would die. Seoul would be obliterated by North Korea, millions would die there and in other parts of the country because North Korea’s massive army would invade the south. Millions of North Koreans would also perish. Japan, Gaum and the west coast of the U.S. could also be targeted with nuclear missiles.

    There is a great article by Mark Bowden about this situation at The Atlantic. It is well worth reading.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/the-worst-problem-on-earth/528717/

    • Which is why the US should nuke North Korea.
      That action will save lives and solve this long running crazy.

      • lurcher1948

         /  August 11, 2017

        Nuking a country with a border with China and Russia takes a special kind of madness and the USA elected that stupid kind of madness the POTUS donald trump,

  3. lurcher1948

     /  August 11, 2017

    Donald removed the USA from the Paris global warming accord, now to solve the warming problem he wants to bring nuclear winter to the world, Donald think of little Baron and all the children of the world…just saying

    • Corky

       /  August 11, 2017

      Yep, Trumpy removed Americans from the biggest scam in the world..lucky buggers.
      Meanwhile, keep paying your climate change tax, Lurchy. The socialist UN needs your contribution.

    • I think you find it’s Kim Jong Un that wants that lurch

  4. Kevin

     /  August 11, 2017

    http://www.spectacle.org/995/scorp.html

    Quote:

    Because the scorpion will kill you as soon as it is given a chance, you must find a way to defect earlier than the scorpion, and decisively. But the scorpion will study the situation, looking for a way to defect earlier than you can; so you must assume he will do so, and seek to defect earlier still. Like gunfighters in a Western movie who run down the street at each other, howling and shooting as soon as they catch sight of each other, the prisoner’s dilemma escalates into an immediate duel to the death. The concept of a pre-emptive strike expresses nothing other than a strategy based on defecting early and decisively. Tarquinian’s symbolic cutting of the tops from the tallest flowers, or the massacre of opponents after any coup d’etat in history, are other examples.

    It is the scorpion that pulls humanity down. If you are not yourself a scorpion, you still are unable to play every move of every game in the cooperation zone, because sooner or later you will meet a scorpion. Not every scorpion is a suicide bomber; the law partner who made a successful motion to cut my draw, forcing my resignation from a law firm, suffered the symbolic fate of the scorpion when the firm’s biggest client (the one I alone knew how to service) left as a result, and the firm folded. Yeats’ judgment that “things fall apart, the center cannot hold”, because “the worst are full of passionate intensity” is a recognition of the fact that there are scorpions.

    Scorpions may know the consequences, and not care, like the suicide bomber, or may, through vanity and denial, refuse to see the consequences, like my ex-partner. In any event, the effect is the same: a player defects when there is no reason to, and something–a life, an enterprise–ends as a result.

    Game theory does not really take scorpions into account. It holds that people will defect because that is in their best interest–because the future has no shadow. Game theory fails as a tool when we are dealing with sociopathology or extreme denial. The human dilemma is that all progress ultimately fails or at least slides back, that anything once proven must be proven again a myriad of times, that there is nothing so well established that a fundamentalist (of any religion or stripe) cannot be found to deny it, and suffer the consequences, and then deny that he suffered the consequences.

    End Quote.

  5. Blazer

     /  August 11, 2017

    Turnbull has come out and said…Australia will back the U.S….BLOODY GREASEBALL.

    • phantom snowflake

       /  August 11, 2017

      Kinda makes sense though; ANZUS being a Cold War Era agreement, and Trump working hardout on Cold War II.