The ‘white supremacist’ contradiction

I think there’s quite a contradiction in the term ‘white supremacist’.

Those who go under that label look like being closer to the other end of the scale to  supreme.

More like inferiority complexes manifesting in extreme ways.

That may be a bit harsh. Some of the real thing:


  1. sorethumb

     /  August 14, 2017

    • I don’t know what your point is.

      In wake of Charlottesville, Pence slams white supremacists and fringe groups

      ‘‘These dangerous fringe groups’’ have no place in American public life,” he said.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  August 14, 2017

        I don’t think that there is a point.

      • sorethumb

         /  August 14, 2017

        Pence might slam fringe groups, but i wouldn’t mind betting that in a wider context many Trump voters are sympathetic to the wider issues regarding the Robert E Lee’s statue.

        Societies are bound by sacred objects and ideas. In Australia it is ANZAC. When Yassmin Abdel-Magied made an ill-judged tweet on ANZAC day she was chased out of Australia. To me that demonstrates the flaw in multicultural society.

        It isn’t just white supremacists who are virulent, just look at how many left-wing groups are drifting into more extreme positions.

        • “It isn’t just white supremacists who are virulent, just look at how many left-wing groups are drifting into more extreme positions.”

          That doesn’t make any of it acceptable.

          I don’t think the promotion of extreme positions, whether it be white supremacy or non-white supremacy or age or gender supremacy or any other sort of supremacy that keeps rubbishing differences, is acceptable here.

          I don’t want this site hijacked by an extreme agenda.

          Here we promote inclusiveness and a wide variety of opinions.

        • Joe Bloggs

           /  August 14, 2017

          The circumstances that facilitated the emergence of the KKK as a formidable organization, just before America entered the First World War:

          – anti-immigrant fervour
          – economic concerns
          – ideas about maintaining white supremacy
          – fears that white men were being displaced


  2. sorethumb

     /  August 14, 2017

    The white supremacist forces arrayed in Charlottesville, Virginia, over the weekend — the largest gathering of its sort in at least a generation — represented a new incarnation of the white supremacy movement. Old-guard groups like the Ku Klux Klan, the Aryan Nations and the Nazi skinheads, which had long stood at the center of racist politics in America, were largely absent.
    Instead, the ranks of the young men who drove to Charlottesville with clubs, shields, pepper spray and guns included many college-educated people who have left the political mainstream in favor of extremist ideologies over the past few years. A large number have adopted a very clean cut, frat-boyish look designed to appeal to the average white guy in a way that KKK robes or skinhead regalia never could. Interviews show that at least some of these leaders have spent time in the U.S. armed forces.

    • Are you trying to normalise it?

      It’s very ugly. Just as well we don’t have that sort of stupidity in New Zealand.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  August 14, 2017

        I can’t see David Duke and his unlovely ‘make America white again’ friend appealing to many people.

        They must have been furious to see that black and white people were standing together, united.

      • sorethumb

         /  August 14, 2017

        They don’t sound like the people in the cartoon though.Anyway, do we know what these people stand for apart from the default explanation of KKK and Adolf Hitler? Aren’t they protesting the removal of a statue that has stood all these years?

  3. Corky

     /  August 14, 2017

    Here’s some black folk who stand for nothing but used the Ferguson riots to help themselves. Hey, what about your black brothers memory?

    Its the cops fault. White people too.

  4. Joe Bloggs

     /  August 14, 2017

    After the spectacle of Charlottesville there is no longer any plausible argument that Clinton’s emails ever represented any comparative moral danger…. completely laid to bed.

  5. sorethumb

     /  August 14, 2017

    As Sean put it:

    We’re seeing whites largely blamed for enormous problems. Just about every problem we’re seeing is, we’re told, caused by white privilege or colonialism, or whatever terms they come up with to use white people as a scapegoat for everyone elses’ problems. And on top of that, sometime in the 2040s, we’re projected to be a minority in this country. History tells us exactly what happens to scapegoated minorities in the countries where they’re unpopular.

    In Andrew’s words:

    The message is global and also local … Whites in Europe, in North American, and in Australia are having multiculturalism forced on them. Dangerous multiculturalism, not the positive kind where you get the best of the best, but the worst of the worst … We get Islamic radicals being brought into our countries. I felt this was a turning point in world events and that I needed to be here at the very least. I’m not necessarily 100 percent Alt Right. I want to be here to observe it from as unbiased a perspective as I can, but even with that I can’t ignore facts … We see what’s happening in South Africa, we see what’s happening in Western Europe. Those are prime examples of ethnic European dispossession and violence against whites. Based on that, we can tell what’s going to be happening here.

    • “We’re seeing whites largely blamed for enormous problems. ”

      A contradiction from people who blame everyone but ‘whites’ for all the problems.

      “and in Australia are having multiculturalism forced on them”

      Yeah, yeah. Howe do you think Aborigines feel? The ones who survived genocide, rampant new diseases, attempts to wipe their culture out and make them culturally ‘white’?

      And whites themselves are culturally very diverse – and many have non-white genes.

      Promoting ‘whites’ over others and trying to pretend multiculturalism hasn’t been around for millennia is nonsense.

      • sorethumb

         /  August 15, 2017

        I was quoting two people from the article elucidating their point of view – in there own words.

    • Please don’t continue to promote division, white victim hood and intolerance here. Quoting a bunch of stuff from overseas agendas is not what this place is about.

      If you want to keep promoting an extremist agenda I suggest you do that elsewhere. I don’t want it here.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  August 14, 2017

        I hope that people like thumb don’t think that the Morrinsville shooter’s vanity plate ‘I AZIF I’ means that he is a Muslim called Azif and not someone with no more sense than to pay many hundreds of $ on a piece of metal with ‘as if’ misspelled on it. NB, the other people who have this-there must be a few AZIFs if his is I AZIF I-must be regretting this purchase.

      • Joe Bloggs

         /  August 14, 2017

        Tautoko PG