Open Forum – Friday

18 August 2017

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26 Comments

  1. lurcher1948

     /  August 18, 2017

    Donald Trump is a class act,2 days of silence on a terrorist attack in his country but 2 instant tweets on the attack in Barcelona.you find it hard to understand parts of your support are white racist terrorists.

    • Corky

       /  August 18, 2017

      proportion:
      noun: proportion; plural noun: proportions

      a part, share, or number considered in comparative relation to a whole.
      “the proportion of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere is rising”
      synonyms: part, portion, amount, quantity, bit, piece, percentage, section, segment,
      share, quota, division, fraction, measure

      Key quote:

      ”number considered in comparative relation to a whole.”

  2. Corky

     /  August 18, 2017

    As astral travellers well know at a given point words fail to either describe a reality let alone convey that reality to another being.

    And so it is with regards to Islam. We fire words at each other with minimal effect. No one wants to listen because they cannot grasp what you are trying to convey. Not being professional writers only compounds the issue.

    Enter Pauline Hanson. Who unbeknown to her encapsulated with one gesture what Westerners like myself have being trying to convey.

    The media call it a stunt. I call it a thesis of diagnostic and prognostic excellence.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/pauline-hansons-senate-burqa-stunt-ignites-firestorm-over-religious-freedoms-20170817-gxym22.html

    Listen to the commentary. Those are the words of fear. Listen to the excuses. In fact the commentary is a great counterpoint

  3. Corky

     /  August 18, 2017

    Who has the POWER? Guys in white hoods with green teeth or liberals?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/7283824/Anti-abortion-club-faces-uni-ban

  4. Gezza

     /  August 18, 2017

    If he is lucky dad will pass away today. He can’t walk, can’t sit, can’t see, can’t eat, can’t drink, can’t hear, can’t communicate, can’t get comfortable, is in constant pain & constant anxiety because he can’t understand what is happening, has been in that situation for 3 days now, & we have just been told they think he may only have a few days or hours left – something we could see for ourselves yesterday – but they just can’t say how long he has. If it were legally possible would have been able to end his misery yesterday.

    • MaureenW

       /  August 18, 2017

      Hope your Dad gets a lucky break – and that New Zealand will get a law change to stop unnecessary suffering for the terminally ill.

      • MaureenW

         /  August 18, 2017

        Who is the silly bastard down-ticker on this thread – shame, you.

    • Gezza. Thinking of you and your Dad. It’s a tough and tortuous process mate and I hope it’s better than it was yesterday and as peaceful as it can be. Words only I know mate. Go well.

    • phantom snowflake

       /  August 18, 2017

      I’m both saddened and angered by your dad’s situation. Something’s obviously gone wrong here. The doctor in charge of the medical side of your dad’s care should be able to prescribe sufficient pain relief and possibly sedation to make him comfortable. If this is difficult they can involve the district health board’s palliative care team. (Same team that oversees hospices.) They are the experts at ‘End of Life Care’, particularly managing pain and discomfort. My thoughts are with you.

      • Gezza

         /  August 18, 2017

        I’m heading up to the Rest Home shortly. I’ll be finding that out. I think the problem is he has severe dementia & that’s what’s killing him. But it means he can’t understand & therefore articulate or describe what he’s feeling, or why he’s physically so agitated. He hallucinates anyway, so he anything could be going on in his head. He possibly doesn’t meet criteria for an life-ending palliative medication. But it’s like watching an injured animal die horribly.

        I can mostly cope with this, I knew it was coming, we were well-briefed on this as being the likely course of his condition – he ceased to have any worthwhile quality of life or understanding of his world 6 months ago. But it’s torture for ma, & dad. We want it to be over now, with no more suffering. This is the reality of how it is for some people.

        • phantom snowflake

           /  August 18, 2017

          Sorry I may have been unclear. ‘End of Life Care’ refers to the care of someone at or near the end of their life, and is not about ending their life. Regardless of what condition is ending your dad’s life, we now have a wide range of medications to manage pain and distress, and palliative care teams are the experts at this. Best wishes.

          • Gezza

             /  August 18, 2017

            So noted. It’s a rest home & hospital but they needed a doctor’s ok to start “end of life meds” & have started morphine & anti-anxiety meds. All he knows is that the morphine was cold, but they’ve kicked in now & he’s sleeping & breathing strongly. One or both of us can stay up here with him overnight or however long it takes now. Didn’t mean to upset people, & hope I haven’t, but the euthenasia / death with dignity debate has been a regular topic here & dad, me & ma are all anonymous so just thought I’d share this much of the experience & will end here. Ma would have made the decision to end his life before now, but only by a few days. I’d have done the same.

    • High Flying Duck

       /  August 18, 2017

      Thoughts are with you Gezz – there’s no such thing as a pleasant ‘end of life’ process, but there are certainly grades of bad. I hope your dad can be made comfortable and have a peaceful end when his time comes. Look after yourself and your Ma.

    • PDB

       /  August 18, 2017

      Sorry to hear that G – hopefully your poor old dad doesn’t suffer too much longer.

    • Conspiratoor

       /  August 18, 2017

      I’ve bèen there G. The saddest thing for me was watching my kids have to endure their poppas sad decline. I knew him as a fantastic vibrant lover of life who I idolised, they didn’t have this experience and knew him only as a sick old guy who couldn’t feed himself …very sad…

  5. lurcher1948

     /  August 18, 2017

    “We stand with Paris”
    “We stand with Brussels”
    “We stand with Nice”
    “We stand with Berlin”
    “We stand with London”
    “We stand with Stockholm”
    “We stand with Manchester”
    “WE STAND WITH CHARLOTTESVILLE”
    “We stand with Barcelona”
    There fixed it for you selective righties

  6. Corky

     /  August 18, 2017

    The Whaler opines on what I have believed all along….feminists don’t have the femininity to compete with attractive girls in the love stakes. Therefore, to make themselves relevant and noticed, they start ranting and acting in a bizarre manner.

    Of course attractive girls are too busy having fun to notice these non entities. Life can be great fun; but equally cruel in the life and beauty sakes

    • MaureenW

       /  August 18, 2017

      Gee Corky, [I get the point but don’t ask for personal details here please’ PG]

      • Corky

         /  August 18, 2017

        Are you a feminist? Or just surly? [Deleted, not appropriate to ask for personal details. PG]

        • MaureenW

           /  August 18, 2017

          Gosh, must I be one or the other? How about neither! Just one question – have you been hiding for the last 40 years?

          • Corky

             /  August 18, 2017

            Pete has asked me to stop asking for personal details. Please do likewise.

        • Corky

           /  August 18, 2017

          [That’s not the way to do it. PG]

          • MaureenW

             /  August 18, 2017

            Lol, I wasn’t really wanting to see – just using as an example of someone totally out of touch with women and today. Rating females as EITHER pretty and looking for love, or unpretty and supporting causes is just sad, mate.

          • Corky

             /  August 18, 2017

            Come on. Pete. Whats going on?

            • Corky

               /  August 18, 2017

              Cancel , I didn’t see the above censure of MW.