Open Forum – Friday

25 August 2017

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  1. sorethumb

     /  August 25, 2017

    It’s the conviction that certain common human emotions are evil and harmful and wrong, and the way to make a better world is to get rid of them in one way or another.. That belief is taken for granted throughout the industrial societies of the modern West, and it’s been welded in place for a very long time, though—as we’ll see in a moment—the particular emotions so labeled have varied from time to time. Just now, of course, the emotion at the center of this particular rogue’s gallery is hate.

    These days hate has roughly the same role in popular culture that original sin has in traditional Christian theology. If you want to slap the worst imaginable label on an organization, you call it a hate group. If you want to push a category of discourse straight into the realm of the utterly unacceptable, you call it hate speech. If you’re speaking in public and you want to be sure that everyone in the crowd will beam approval at you, all you have to do is denounce hate.

  2. sorethumb

     /  August 25, 2017

    Taking The Greens Seriously
    I was not going to take a call on the Waikato-Tainui Raupatu Claims (Waikato River) Settlement Bill, but sometimes the rhetoric around one is overwhelming. I am very excited that we are moving into a more sophisticated era under Te Tiriti o Waitangi, and we are moving beyond the limited concept of conservative Pakeha that one man, one vote is the only manifestation of democracy possible in Aotearoa. I stand as a Pakeha, proud to live with Te Tiriti o Waitangi as our founding document, and absolutely committed to finding new ways through the colonisation effects of the past. Only people who do not understand what colonisation means would say that this is not a step forward, and that the co-management that is being proposed is not an incredibly positive model for Pakeha, for tangata Tiriti, for tauiwi katoa as well as for Maori.

  3. sorethumb

     /  August 25, 2017

    catherine delahunty
    “I explained that as a Pakeha I had a very limited relationship with the foreshore and seabed but “loved the beach” generally. This did not compare well to the 1000 years of whakapapa and site specific responsibilities that Betty and her hapu maintain to this day.

  4. Corky

     /  August 25, 2017

    Here’s where the mentally ill liberal Left stop being a danger only to themselves, and become a problem for our society, nay, our civilisation.

    Here’s the outrage, and the irony, in one tweet:

    ”ESPN thinks people are too dumb to tell them apart.”

    Unfortunately some are. While the rest are running agendas.

    • PDB

       /  August 25, 2017

      I’ve been following this story the past few days – not only does it point out the stupidity of the left but it shows how terribly political ESPN has become.

      ”People go to sports as a refuge from things like politics. So why would you throw it in the face of viewers, what is the point of that?”

      “I think, again, so much of the media has moved left,” Whitlock  said. “I’ve written about this and talked about this and it applies to ESPN but it also applies to all the media. Silicon Valley, Google, Facebook, Twitter, is now in control of the mainstream media. Everyone is catering all of their content to Silicon Valley and San Francisco values. That’s far different than the old media which catered everything to New York traditional liberal values. The values in San Francisco, a bit more revolutionary, a bit more progressive, than a traditional New York-based media.”

    • Patzcuaro

       /  August 26, 2017

      I don’t think splashing around accusations of mental illness is that helpful given its prevalence in modern society. I’m sure mental illness like other illness strikes those on both sides of the political spectrum.

      Given the racial tensions in the US at present, as a good corporate citizen, may have decided to err on the side of caution. Basically at storm in a teacup.

  5. Corky

     /  August 25, 2017

    Talk about people who need certifying.

    ”Dr Red Ruby Scarlet is pushing for the annual day on the first Sunday in September to be renamed so children without fathers aren’t offended.”`

    Notice the name. We debated names before. Some told me I was full of it. This says otherwise. Nutty name, usually a nutty or Leftie person.

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    • Patzcuaro

       /  August 26, 2017

      We would have to do away with mothers day as well because that might upset those without a mother. The solution might be to just have a special person day this should cover aĺl bases but that would upset the retailers who would be unhappy at loosing a sales opportunity. So we would need a retailers day to keep them happy.

      So the second Sunday in May could be renamed Special Person Day and the first Sunday in Septemer could be Retailers Day.

      Apparently we also have a fun holiday called Dance Like a Chicken Day scheduled for Monday May 14 next year. I’m a little dubious about this as I feel it may be offensive to chickens.

  6. A brand new National ad. I like it.

    • Blazer

       /  August 25, 2017

      stale,copy of last election rowing ad.Bereft of ideas,resort to the same..ole.Goodbye.

    • Corky

       /  August 25, 2017

      Good decent fresh faced young Tories. They will be the powerhouse of our future- if we have one. Such a great change from the riff-raff in Labours ads. The only thing Labours add got right was Jacinda looking out of a wound up car window at the minorities whizzing by.
      Yes. Labour are great at condescending hypocrisy.

    • Patzcuaro

       /  August 26, 2017

      Looks like National are trying to steal a march on the Greens you couldn’t get much closer to green and still be blue with those t-shirts, s… teal, get it. Beautiful outdoors, lovely clean water not a dairy cow in sight, only politicians polluting the pristine environment.

      My only concern would be that they were blindly following the leader and they didn’t show any concern for the poor people that fell over. They just seemed to be focused on themselves but it is a National Party ad so you would expect much else.