Winston’s Super stuff up


Winston Peters has admitted having been overpaid Super, after initially denying it. This may date back to 2010 (when Peters turned 65)  but has just been repaid this year.

I don’t know who’s stuff up this was but this may become clear as more information comes out.

Newshub: Winston Peters admits taking extra pension payments

Winston Peters has admitted having to pay back a pension overpayment, after being contacted by Newshub.

Mr Peters initially refused to confirm he had been overpaid the pension after being contacted on Saturday, going as far as to say someone was “seriously misleading you, mate”.

But on Sunday night he issued a statement called “A mistake that was fixed”, and said he had paid the money back in July this year.

In the statement, Mr Peters said he had applied for pension in 2010 “in the company of [his] partner” and a senior Ministry of Social Development official.

“In July of this year, I was astonished to receive a letter from the Ministry to advise there was an error in my superannuation allowance and a request that I meet with them,” he said.

What sort of mistake could there have been? Getting a single person’s super when living with a partner is all I can think of.

After “immediately” contacting and meeting up with MSD’s area manager, Mr Peters says they agreed there had been an error.

“Immediately” seems to be making a point possibly at issue.

“It was unclear on both sides how the error had occurred leading to a small fortnightly overpayment,” he said.

It’s not yet known how much he was overpaid, but Mr Peters said he “corrected” the error and overpayment within a day of finding out about it.

But when contacted by Newshub on Saturday regarding the issue, Mr Peters said: “Well look, I’m not going to be answering questions like this here in this election.”

“If you ask me if I owe anybody any money at all the answer is no, fullstop,” he said.

“I’m not going to respond to malicious statements that aren’t true.”

Newshub says that there is “more to come”.

Superannuation rates:


The only ones of those that would seem to amount to “a small fortnightly overpayment” would be between a couple where both qualify and a couple when one qualifies.

That’s $36.04 a fortnight, which amounts to $937.04 per year, a significant amount.

Newshub say there is a lot more top come out.




  1. PDB

     /  August 27, 2017

    It appears his major issue here (in the eyes of the public) is Winston denying the allegations put to him yesterday regarding overpayments by Newshub and then putting out a statement tonight saying the complete opposite.

    The story itself (at face value) doesn’t look to be a major scandal – unless there is more to come in terms of Peters deliberately lying about his living arrangements. Comparisons to Turei so far don’t stack up.

    • Unless he claimed the wrong amount.

      See the video I have just added to the post.

      • Blazer

         /  August 27, 2017

        how would it affect his earnings with a generous Parliamentary salary?

    • PDB

       /  August 27, 2017

      Yeah, listened to it – sounded a bit ‘rushed out’ due to the fact Winston sent out a statement pre-empting their story tomorrow. A agree it has to do with his relationship status, and how that would affect his payments.

      This I thought a bit ‘odd’;

      “In the statement, Mr Peters said he had applied for pension in 2010 “in the company of [his] partner” and a senior Ministry of Social Development official.”

      I would’ve thought applying for the pension is a fairly standard procedure not requiring a senior official to be in attendance (or his partner for that matter)?

      It’s almost like he is pre-empting questions around what he exactly applied for in 2010, that he obviously was in a relationship as his partner was present at the time he applied, and the ‘officials’ are being set up for the blame for these overpayments because a senior official oversaw the application.

      • That’s how it sounds, he seems to be implying they should have known what he was eligible to receive because someone was with him.

  2. Gezza

     /  August 27, 2017

    Right! That’s it!
    He’ll have to go! 😡
    Who else have they got? 😳

  3. Tipene

     /  August 27, 2017

    Media beat-up: MSD have Superannuation Case Managers, and these are always very senior people in the MSD.

    Gower is once again wet-dreaming himself in the hope of securing a scalp:

    Overpayment identified = overpayment paid back = no issue.

    • PDB

       /  August 27, 2017

      I guess we wait until the full story is told tomorrow.

      Winston’s honesty has always been under question over the years (donations, racing industry sweeteners etc) and him blaming the media one day for fake news and then the following day saying that news is true doesn’t really help his cause in that regard. Especially when he is very quick to point out lies by other politicians and runs on a ticket of ‘keeping them honest’.

    • duperez

       /  August 27, 2017

      Gower again wet-dreaming? It doesn’t take much as shown by his reaction to the announcement of kids possibly being able to learn a second language at primary school.

      “Bill English has played a blinder by coming up with a policy to give all Kiwi kids the chance to learn a second language. Who saw it coming? It is original, it is ambitious, it is symbolic – and at $160 million it doesn’t cost that much” and it went on as if some great discovery had been made, some astonishing new hope for our future had been realised.

      At least he’s only doing politics, thank God he’s not on All Blacks watch.

      • PDB

         /  August 27, 2017

        Considering he has been non-stop gushing over Ardern since she was made deputy leader of Labour at least he spreads the love around a bit.

  4. Tipene

     /  August 27, 2017

    Sounds like it was a Case Manager entry error or a SWIFTT calculation error; SWIFTT is the in-house DOS-based system that calculates the MSD benefit rates.

    This would not be the first time:

    • I’m not sure how a super payment could be miscalculated. The wrong code could have been entered and therefore he was paid the wrong amount, but Peters of all people should be aware of what amount he was eligible to receive.

  5. Tipene

     /  August 27, 2017

    Sorry, DOS-based system.

    • Comeonbro

       /  August 27, 2017

      That’s $36.04 a fortnight, which amounts to $937.04 per year, a significant amount.

      Seriously! Lol. Significant to whom?

  6. duperez

     /  August 27, 2017

    Damn, I’ve just realised that from now on Peter Dunne is going to be an expert. He is to be the new Rodney Hide, the ‘got-to-boy’ for the experienced view, the been-there-done-that perspective.

    But more than that, opinions as if his opinions are more valuable in terms of validity, rationality or balance. He won’t be able to keep his nose out of things, he won’t want to and we’ll see and hear him in all media. It will be interesting to see how long his sore loser fit of pique lasts though.

  7. It’s inconceivable that he didn’t know he was being overpaid for 7 years. It’s very clear there are quite differing amounts deoending on your relationship status. Even if you’re a little fiscally challenged, ( he tells us he was NZ’s best Finnace Minister) a cursory glance at the table shows you what you’re entitled to. His partner receives it also ( she’s at least his age), and it beggars belief that they haven’t discussed their payments. The money HAS to go into a JOINT account if you’re living with a spouse/partner, so there’s two of them checking it out regularly. You think one of them must have noticed the disparity

    No wonder he didn’t lay into MT.

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