Open Forum – Tuesday

29 August 2017

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47 Comments

  1. lurcher1948

     /  August 29, 2017

    Poor Winston Peters,a victum of dirty national party politics

    • I haven’t seen any evidence of that.

      • duperez

         /  August 29, 2017

        That comment reminds me of a pack of forwards controlling the ball, falling over the line in a heap with a try ostensibly being scored with the TMO then saying “there is no evidence the ball was grounded” because he can’t see the ball.

        On the surface of it so far we have MSD telling Minister Tolley about the Peters situation on July 31st and August 15th. At some stage Paula Bennett was told. On August 18th the media was told.

        The evidence is who was told, when and what then happened. A good try saying they don’t know who leaked the info, but the try has been scored. In the circumstances a penalty try at that.

    • Corky

       /  August 29, 2017

      Put up, or crawl under the covers again, Lurchy.

    • Gezza

       /  August 29, 2017

      Uncertain of your meaning, Lurch. Did you mean victim, or rectum?

    • lurcher1948

       /  August 29, 2017

      Anne Tolleys department informed of the error and 3 days later details leaked to media.Join the dots but Winnies private investigators will will get to the bottom of this illegal act

      • Corky

         /  August 29, 2017

        Joining the dots aint proof, Lurchy. I played joining the dots in Standard Three with Tekahu. We were caught by a teacher who is now a limp wristed prat who leads a major education organisation. But in my time, before he was feminised, he was a hardman who was a major in the territorials. We each received four of the best that left us slumped in the corridor.

        What has this to do with the topic? Nothing really. You just brought back bad memories.

        • Blazer

           /  August 29, 2017

          this fellow….’But Te Kaha said he would always stand up for the ideals and principles of his people. “I have always maintained I did not steal the McCahon,” he said. “I took it for a while, but I did not steal it.”

      • Gezza

         /  August 29, 2017

        Just ignore any five-foot tiddkywink champion trolls pretending to be Macho Man, Lurch.

  2. Corky

     /  August 29, 2017

    Righties fight back. Man,I have seen Michelle Malkin in a number of debates. She knows how to deal with ‘liberal ladies.’

    http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/08/27/sean-hannity-michelle-malkin-slap-sheriff-joe-arpaio-critics-with-this-blistering-reminder/

    • She’s your kind of gal corkers!

      • Corky

         /  August 29, 2017

        As a matter of fact I prefer Lefty girls. Rigties are too on to it. That said, Michelle Malkin, is a looker in my opinion, especially as she’s heading towards fifty. Miranda Devine is another Rightie who takes care of business. Not sure about Ann Coulter.

        I doubt Jacinda could live with any of these women in a live debate.

    • Joe Bloggs

       /  August 29, 2017

      Arpaio was found guilty by a federal court of criminal contempt of court for defying a court order to stop detaining suspected undocumented immigrants.

      The criminal charge grew out of a lawsuit filed a decade ago charging that the sheriff’s office regularly violated the rights of Latinos, stopping people based on racial profiling, detaining them based solely on the suspicion that they were in the country illegally, and turning them over to the immigration authorities. These are allegations, later proven to the satisfaction of a Judge, of probable violations of the Constitution.

      Hearing the suit, another federal district judge, G. Murray Snow, ordered the sheriff in 2011 to halt detention based solely on suspicion of a person’s immigration status, when there was no evidence that a state law had been broken. An appeals court upheld that ruling, and Judge Snow later reinforced it with other orders.

      Arpaio had his day in court several times. He lost, several times. As a “law enforcement officer” he had a duty to the law he voluntarily took on when he swore his oath to the Constitution. Mr. Arpaio, having lost in court, could have brought his behavior into compliance with what several Courts had ruled were constitutional bounds. He chose not to do so. When he persisted in violating the Constitution, the Court, which also has a duty to the Constitution, held him in contempt.

      Pardoning law enforcement officers who violate the Constitution undermines the very law enforcement that exists to preserve and protect the Constitution. End. Of. Story.

      • Corky

         /  August 29, 2017

        Read the comments section of my link. Enough said. A big ado about nothing. Sometimes you have to do what is legally wrong, and do what is morally right. Rounding up illegal overstayers is right. Profiling their racial group is right. Dealing to them is right.

        Talking of violitainh the constitution…….

        • Corky

           /  August 29, 2017

          * violating*

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  August 29, 2017

            Rounding up legal residents is not right.

            Using racial profiling as an excuse for racist harassment is not right.

            ‘Dealing to’ (silly expression unless it refers to a card game) innocent people going about their business is not right.

            • Corky

               /  August 29, 2017

              Tell that to illegal immigrants and Muslim terrorists.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  August 29, 2017

              Tell that to people who are legally there because they are either citizens or were born there like an American friend’s Mexican husband.

  3. Gezza

     /  August 29, 2017

    to Bj

    Mon colonel. It has been some weeks now since you last posted about the infamous Clinton Criminal Cabal, which you assured us was about to be busted open by Intrepid Citizen Investigators, and was on the brink of scandalous exposure & highly publicised arrests & interrogations.

    In your last post, you intimated that it was all on the very brink of being blow open to the public of the earth in the most stunning revelations of nefarious high-level evil activities & shenanigans since Marilyn Monroe turned out to be JFK’s tart.

    you said to “watch the news next week”. I did, & for now also a couple more weeks, I believe.

    Nada. Contents of my wallet. Zip. Zilch. Zero. Big, fat, moment of truth. Nothing!

    My disappointment is of epic proportions.

    Sitrep required please.

    • Blazer

       /  August 29, 2017

      the Col has not posted for sometime…I understand his health is not good.Very insensitive of you considering your own recent situation.

      • Gezza

         /  August 29, 2017

        I am unappraised of any change or deterioration in the colonel’s medical situation, & unaware he requires the assistance of a stoat to interfere in our communications – so

  4. Corky

     /  August 29, 2017

    Right on, Miranda. Take notice, Kitty. This is why I have a problem with people like you.

    http://www.2gb.com/podcast/miranda-devine-10/

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  August 29, 2017

      Someone else who is deliberately distorting the facts; some swimming pools have ‘women only’ times, which has been welcomed by Muslim women. Any woman can go. The people in charge of these pools have refuted the Muslim-only allegation over and over and are very tired of the mischief-making lies which can easily be disproved but which the stirrers want to keep going. It’s a non-event. Miranda Devine would be welcome to turn up to one of the women-only pool times.

      This is a hoary old urban myth. Miranda Devine must be either an idiot who doesn’t bother to check facts or a troublemaker who wants to try to make something out of nothing.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  August 29, 2017

        Google it if you don’t believe me.

      • Corky

         /  August 29, 2017

        I have Googled it. My problem is you are wilfully ignorant and continue to miss the point. Of course you probably think Miranda was making up the school bullying of a teacher by Muslim teachers at a public school. You have selective memory and I can only assume you are piss taking.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  August 29, 2017

          I don’t know what you think you made a link to, but it’s a story about women-only simming sessions. Look for yourself.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  August 29, 2017

          That school story is not as you have described it, if it’s the Punchbowl one which involved a small number of pupils, not teachers. Of course, we all know that non-Muslim school pupils are angelic at school.

          The finger across the throat gesture is universal and can have many shades of meaning-the usual one is that the other person should shut up, that the doer wants to cut their own throat in frustration and so on…it’s used in television studios to indicate that time’s up.

    • Corky

       /  August 29, 2017

      Damn. Security expert. Seven Sharp. He said its only a matter of time before a terrorist attack in NZ. Poor Mikey and two fools interviewed tried to brush it off. Oh, boy, reminds me of some posters I know.

      Before a truck was used in terrorist attacks, I had mentioned such would happen. Its not that I’m a genius, its just I have common sense.

      So what will be the next evolution in terrorist attacks? I believe it will be a swallowed explosive device timed to go off hours after an attack That will double the kill rate and cause major delays clearing a terroism site.

      • Maybe, some time in the future.

        In the meantime over 600 New Zealanders are killing themselves. There are 1-2 New Zealanders killed every week on average. Many more a the victims of violence every day.

        We should be more concerned about real problems happening now rather than worry about a vague future possibility.

        • Corky

           /  August 29, 2017

          I agree. But we are already making some attempt to tackle these problems regardless of how we think that should be accomplished.I think its being done rather badly.

          However, psychologically we are ill prepared to see Kiwi blood spilt on the street. As an example, I know two people that were hospitalised because they feared what would happen if the Y2K bug brought down computers worldwide. These were normal people as far as I knew. But they lost the plot.

          Now imagine a terrorist attack. Worse, imagine if a Maori is killed. We’ll have knee jerk reactions, vicious retaliation and instant segregation. Airports wil beef up security. Well will go from police having no guns, to them trotting around with machine pistols.You will be checked before getting on public transport. Tempers will fray as the Kiwi laid back approach to life becomes a distant memory.

          Why? Because some Pakistani student thought it was time to teach Kiwi Infidels a lesson.

          I believe there is nothing vague about our future if we don’t plan now. Australia should be the impetus to change our mindset…and our immigration policy.

          • Why don’t we make plans in case the Arctic melts and we get Inuits invading.

            Or it might get to wet for Bedoiuns (Badawi) where they currently are so they may swamp us and take over or rugby stadii.

            There’s many possibilities we could plan for or avoid.

            Or we could get on with our lives without labelling people of any specific nationality as suspect for no reasonable reason.

            We could not fly anywhere just in case there’s a bird strike. A far greater risk though, we could not drive on the roads, one of the most dangerous places in the country. Or avoid city centres after midnight.

            • Corky

               /  August 29, 2017

              ”Why don’t we make plans in case the Arctic melts and we get Inuits invading. ”

              Not many Inuits have world domination in mind.

              ”Or it might get to wet for Bedoiuns (Badawi) where they currently are so they may swamp us and take over or rugby stadii.”

              Very unlikely.

              ”Or we could get on with our lives without labelling people of any specific nationality as suspect for no reasonable reason.”

              That’s an Ostrich strategy. We have every right to suspect Muslims because of their track record, and our inability to know who’s safe, and who isn’t.

              ‘We could not fly anywhere just in case there’s a bird strike.”

              That’s an acceptable risk. Birds are birds. They aren’t on a Jihad.

              ”A far greater risk though, we could not drive on the roads, one of the most dangerous places in the country.”

              Roads aren’t racist. Roads don’t plan. Roads don’t hate us. They are our creation.

              ”Or avoid city centres after midnight.”

              Now here’s where you and I agree to an extent. Avoidance is the best policy. We don’t have to avoid, but prudence tells us we are more likely to run into problems at that time of night

              You need kept up with the problems in Australia which is only three hours away.

              Here’s what happens if you are too trusting and don’t try to understand the Muslim mindset.

              Quote:

              ”The mosque she spoke at is run by an anti-gay Muslim preacher:”

              https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=56259

            • “Not many Inuits have world domination in mind.”

              Not many of any group of people have world domination in mind.

            • Gezza

               /  August 29, 2017

              Corky’s post above should not just be so cursively dismissed in that manner. He argues a valid point about a vital issue well. I agree with him

            • Gezza

               /  August 29, 2017

              😡 * cursively = cursorily
              Been a long 7 days. Still tired.

  5. Corky

     /  August 29, 2017

    FemmaNazis gain power on Auckland University Campus. No dissenting views allowed. No wonder some scientific studies coming out of that place are so flawed.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/auckland-city-harbour-news/96230184/auckland-university-students-vote-to-disaffiliate-antiabortion-club

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  August 29, 2017

      No matter what one’s views on abortion are, one has to face the fact that it was almost 2-1 in favour of this action, and that it was a referendum. The word ‘vote’ is a clue.

      I can’t see any connection with scientific studies, I must say. Evidence of these being flawed, please.

      • Corky

         /  August 29, 2017

        Again you miss the point. There should not have been a referendum. The Pro Lifers have done nothing wrong and have a right to be heard.

        Here’s a study that cost health food companies huge money to retest their fish oil supplements for rancidity. The results were negative.

        The Liggins Institute and its lead author are yet to apologise.

        http://www.liggins.auckland.ac.nz/en/about/news/news-2015/study-casts-doubt-on-content-claims-for-popular-supplement.html

        I’m sorry, but you aren’t worth responding to in future.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  August 29, 2017

          Thank goodness for that.

          The connection between fish oil and abortion is unclear.

        • Gezza

           /  August 29, 2017

          Be time to start your own blog soon Corks, where you can happily just talk to & upset yourself. 👍🏼

      • David

         /  August 29, 2017

        “one has to face the fact that it was almost 2-1 in favour of this action, and that it was a referendum. The word ‘vote’ is a clue.”

        How about we have a referendum to stop all Immigration If it’s a vote, the outcome will be fine regardless of what it is no?

  6. patupaiarehe

     /  August 29, 2017

    One has to wonder if Shane Jones had anything to do with this… 😀
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11913329

    • Gezza

       /  August 29, 2017

      “New Zealand First used an image from the “Fake Taxi” porn series on its Facebook page.

      “Fake Taxi” is an infamous series of reality-style porn that invariably takes place in a taxi and involves a woman passenger and a male driver that end up having sex with each other.

      NZ First Wellington Central shared a meme against the National Party, but the meme used an image from a porn series.

      The meme says “When National claims the current student loan system is working” and includes a photo of a woman in a taxi with the question “are you pulling my leg?”.”

      • Gezza

         /  August 29, 2017

        Somebody should probably tell Shane what baubles are.

  7. lurcher1948

     /  August 29, 2017

    News Flash, Fonterra stands down 50 drivers weighing over 150kg as their truck seats wouldn’t cope with a crash. [deleted] get off your butts exercise and keep your jobs

    [Link: https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/96291986/fonterra-truck-drivers-stood-down-over-weight-concerns ]