Media watch – Sunday

3 September 2017

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  1. Kevin

     /  September 3, 2017

    National’s political ad is offensive as it mocks the disabled. Apparently.

    https://thestandard.org.nz/revising-nats-nasty-joggers-ad/

    Assuming Robbins isn’t being disingenuous (which I suspect he is as even he can’t be that much a a twerp) this is the sort of humorous lot you’ll be letting in if you vote Labour. Yep, welcome to a country where your every word will be scrutinized and if you call a blind man blind you’ll be hung, drawn, and quartered for not calling him a sight-challenged cis-male person.

    Don’t risk it. Don’t vote Labour.

  2. sorethumb

     /  September 3, 2017

    RNZ’s guest (Victoria University) calls Trump an “A*****hole”. Not on-line yet (later programmes are). he wasn’t convincing as he said that we should tolerate a nuclear armed NK while ignoring the elephant in the room (guns trained on a civilian target (Seoul).

      • Ah, the Trump club of hate. When Kiwis rage against things that that don’t affect them personally, they assume the listener (you) believe their opinion is rooted in altruistic thoughtfulness. They like to think we think of it as selfless concern for the well-being of others.

        Moral outrage is very often a function of self-interest. It seems that people can say what they like about Trump, nothing is sacred, no expletive too hard to hear and no excess too much. There is a moral high ground shared hysterically and worldwide. Any anti-Trumper is Very Good Person.

  3. sorethumb

     /  September 3, 2017

    Whites helping everyone, blacks helping themselves (Houston) – according to conservative black vlogger.

    • Corky

       /  September 3, 2017

      Oprah Winfrey made an observation that black girls worry about their hair; white girls their fingernails. If you watch any YouTube clip of black girls fighting( quite common), it’s not unusual to see a wig come flying off .

      • Gezza

         /  September 3, 2017

        You spend your time looking for videos of black girls fighting?
        [Deleted – inappropriate. PG]

        • Gezza

           /  September 3, 2017

          Sorry PG. Just curiosity really. 😕
          In my own case, I caused two if them to leave the profession. One of them took up forestry & other one became a beekeeper.

    • Conspiratoor

       /  September 3, 2017

      I’m not convinced this stereotype is racially based. I tend to think it is simply the ‘have nots’ seizing an opportunity

      • sorethumb

         /  September 3, 2017

        The point of the clip was media bias

      • Gezza

         /  September 3, 2017

        Would you like one of my hats as well when I get a few in? I’m trying to negotiate a deal with Hill’s Hats. I reckon they’ll be a hot item. Might try flogging them on trademe? If you had both in the car you could choose the best one For the situation depending on whether the crowd looks hostile or friendly? 😳

        • Conspiratoor

           /  September 3, 2017

          That is very uncharitable of you G. Take a dose of optimism with your morning cappo and have a listen to a wise man’s periscope wherein he discovers leadership has broken out all over

          http://blog.dilbert.com/post/164826155621/leadership-is-breaking-out-all-over#comments

          • Gezza

             /  September 3, 2017

            Stop whining. I gave you a bloody uptick. And I was going to give you the hat for free!

            I’ll have a look – when is he coming out here to your place to check out our health system.?

          • Gezza

             /  September 3, 2017

            Tits on a bull I’m afraid, e hoa. 😕
            Can’t get that damn thing to play again.
            Done a iPad reset n everything.
            The only wisdom about leadership I’m getting from that is you should be bald, clean-shaven & drink coffee?

  4. sorethumb

     /  September 3, 2017

    On Media watch they are talking about taxing Google and facebook to fund journalists.
    Colin Peacock claims: “fake news undermines trust in MSM”. Nothing to do with world view, ideology and cognitive dissonance.

  5. Corky

     /  September 3, 2017

    Is Kelvin Davis Labours new Minister Of Foot Shooting? National need to play close attention to this guy. He’s not a great thinker,and dribbles should you hold a lolly pop in front of him. The dynamics between Davis and Jacinda should be interesting if they gain power.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/95556869/kelvin-davis-has-got-a-growling-from-his-boss-in-the-first-week-on-the-job

    • Blazer

       /  September 3, 2017

      yes ,both parties have deputies that are ..liabilities.

      • I agree.

        English as PM and Ardern as deputy looks the best combination of experience and change.

        • Gezza

           /  September 3, 2017

          👍🏼 You da man. This is really how MMP should work.
          Or is you jus bein provocative? 🤔

          • I’d like the best people from a cross section of parties to hold the top positions, and I’d like more cooperation and working together between parties, with holding to account saved for when it’s really necessary.

            I don’t think the large parties or large party supporters are ready for this yet but English and Ardern look to be part way there. It’s just a matter of time.

            • Gezza

               /  September 3, 2017

              Yes. That’s my opinion too PG. I fail to see why other parties can’t grasp this. Such arrangements would still allow parties to compete each year for the most MP’s & thus the strongest chance of advancing obviously popular policies – other parties are a check on your doing so responsibly.

            • PDB

               /  September 3, 2017

              It would only happen in this country if say both National and Labour had around late 20% each.

              MMP has been a total failure in terms of new parties coming through to challenge the existing two-party system. Even with the threshold set at 5% we should have by now seen more mainstream parties in the mix with followings of at least 10% of voters each.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  September 3, 2017

              I’d like the best people from a cross section of parties to hold the top positions

              Winston as PM, Julie-Anne Genter as deputy. Those two would get Auckland sorted… 😉

  6. sorethumb

     /  September 3, 2017

    When RNZ discusses the Alt-Right they ought to have someone who understands. Not from the other side looking in.

    • Gezza

       /  September 3, 2017

      Who would you suggest as an Alt-Right commentator or guest?
      Seymour?

      • The Nation had Heather Roy yesterday on their panel, she must be a bit right-ish.

        But if they represent Alt-right with someone then they would need to do similar for Alt-left and every other activist minority.

      • sorethumb

         /  September 3, 2017

        • Gezza

           /  September 3, 2017

          Sounds like a wanker. And And a foreigner? I stopped listening when he said “I’m not alt right!” I thought you meant a local alt right nutjob (eg 🐞).

  7. duperez

     /  September 3, 2017

    I really like Christchurch but I’m pleased I didn’t live there through the earthquakes and the subsequent dramas. When I read an article this morning I was relieved I don’t have to face the stress that many people there have or are going to face.

    There used to be an expression in common use – ‘jerry-built.’

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11916129

  8. Gezza

     /  September 3, 2017

    Looks interesting.

    “A jubilant shout echoes around A-block at Auckland Prison, Paremoremo.
    Inmate Arthur Taylor has just heard on the news that a jury has returned a guilty verdict in the perjury trial of “Witness C” in the David Tamihere murder case – a prosecution Taylor had brought from behind bars.

    “I yelled out ‘the bastard’s been found guilty’,” he laughs. “The whole wing heard it, ‘cos they’d been waiting too – [the witness] is well known around this prison.”

    It’s believed to be the first successful private prosecution for perjury – certainly the first time such a case has been brought by a serving prisoner.

    Taylor, who schooled himself up on the law, took the prosecution because he wanted to send a message to jailhouse snitches: lie, and face the consequences.”
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/96431996/a-chilling-message-to-jailhouse-snitches-how-prisoner-arthur-taylor-coordinated-a-perjury-case-from-behind-bars

    • Blazer

       /  September 3, 2017

      Criminal lawyer Murray Gibson and the researcher did all the..work.

  9. Zedd

     /  September 3, 2017

    Al Jz reports possible 6th Nuke test in DPRK ?
    in fact they say maybe 6 & 7 (2 quakes minutes apart ?)
    lets see what/if mr T will tweet.. 😦

  10. patupaiarehe

     /  September 3, 2017

    Stuff on Winston Peters…
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96339415

    Might Ardern’s positivity resonate better with voters than his Jeremiah-like warnings of doom?
    “I’ve no doubt it does,” he admits, in a rare concession. “But in the end we all have to live and look back and say to ourselves when our days in politics are over, did I do my best to tell my country the true state of affairs?”

    The comments make for interesting reading, and if they are any indication of public opinion, my estimate of NZF getting 20% of the party vote may have been a little conservative…

  11. Labour release policy on housing & education.. meanwhile Natz ramp up the WAR on DRUGS/gangs.. just shows priority ?

    • Corky

       /  September 3, 2017

      Yep, one wants to belately rein in crime. The other wants a commmunist state.