Peters: whisky and whine

You can tell when Winston Peters has arrived – when the bus motor is turned off the whining continues.

NZ First billboards inevitably got some attention:

But there’s still plenty of whine. He has moaning on RNZ this morning about how bad polls are – NZ First must be not doing well enough for him.

NZH: Winston Peters accuses Labour of stealing his party’s policy to re-establish the NZ Forestry Service

Labour’s pledge to set up a forestry service in Rotorua has been praised by a major timber processor.

However, NZ First leader Winston Peters has accused Labour of “dishonesty” and stealing his party’s long-standing policy to re-establish the NZ Forestry Service.

“The desperate two old parties are obviously rifling through our speeches and documents for ideas,” Peters said.

It’s common for different parties to have similar policies. And it has become more common for parties to poach policies to try to target voters. Whining about it just sounds sour.

Newshub: Winston Peters pulls out of minor parties debate

New Zealand First leader Winston Peters has pulled out of tonight’s minor parties debate, saying if Labour and National see no value in attending, neither does he.

“I cleared my programme and accepted that invitation enthusiastically,” he said.

“Hence, I was astonished, on a general inquiry late Tuesday, to be told by them that neither Labour nor National had ever accepted the invitation.”

Newshub political reporter Jenna Lynch told The AM Show she was surprised Mr Peters assumed Bill English and Jacinda Ardern would be taking part, as it’s a minor leaders’ debate.

“You have to sort of question things if he didn’t realise that.”

Good grief.

Peters won’t lower himself to debate alongside the other minnows – he probably thinks that Ardern and even English a beneath his stature.

Perhaps he can have his own elder statesman debate, but he would probably whine his way through that too.

Alongside Ardern in particular he is looking way past his used-by date, and Shane Jones doesn’t help NZ First look like a party of the future.

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38 Comments

  1. Not only a fool but going out of his way to be proven a fool..
    Be nice to see winston first get 4.999%

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    • Blazer

       /  September 8, 2017

      the real ‘fool’…is Steve Joyce..the ‘billion dollar man’….Steve Austin’s got nothing on him….he was only a paltry….’6 Million Dollar Man’.Bol.

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      • Conspiratoor

         /  September 8, 2017

        If the nats lose it may come down to the herculean efforts by this cock rooster to sabotage his own ship. He meets the benchmark for a knighthood

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        • Gezza

           /  September 8, 2017

          Dreadful to contemplate, but it must be at least considered. He IS the only Privy Councillor in our Current House of Reprehensibles. And they’ve certainly handed them out like chocolate coins to a few rather common rogues.

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          • Gezza

             /  September 8, 2017

            Shudder to think of the reaction from Sir Alan.
            Sir Gerald.

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            • Conspiratoor

               /  September 8, 2017

              I expect Sir Al to do the decent thing …and fall on his sword

  2. sorethumb

     /  September 8, 2017

    Winston needs to define his edge better. Last time he went up was when Dame Devoy chipped in to the election debate. Jacinda has eclipsed Winston given their proposal to cut immigration; recognising there is a problem is a first step.
    Labour cannot be trusted however. They are still into identity politics.
    The night before last I listened to RNZ. A Chinese NZr (original) was complaining about racism against Chinese. Essentially she was saying that she is ethnically Chinese while having ancestors going back to the goldfields, however she identifies with chinese culture and society. Another similar person was also featured on RNZ and she said the same sort of things but also related the deep emotions she felt going back to “her village” in China.
    How does she think Europeans feel when they go back to their “village” to find those in charge are celebrating demographic change as the most enlightened sacrifice? Essentially they are arguing for circles within a space. The space is New Zealand, the circles are other peoples and their cultures.

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  3. Gezza

     /  September 8, 2017

    In my opinion the best thing would be for Winston & co to receive as few votes as they can possibly get & then for him to retire gracelessy & let Shane Jones & somebody other than the little bald lackey guy tussle over who should try & carry on leading what’s left of the Party.

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  4. PDB

     /  September 8, 2017

    Peters thought this election would be his time to step into the spotlight after being sidelined for three terms by the National govt. He’d run a ‘Trump-like’ campaign and be seen by the New Zealand people as the catalyst for change. As ‘kingmaker’ he would be pulling all the levers of govt, policy would only pass with his tick of approval, and he would ensure the Greens were kept out of govt. HE would be the centre of attention during the election campaign.

    Then Labour changed Little for Ardern………

    Now Peters looks like a political dinosaur – in comparison even Bill English looks like a sprightly 25 year old. Winston has coughed up traditional Labour supporters who now think it safe to fly home to the Labour nest & he has been starved of oxygen as the MSM flock to Ardern who ironically is almost a younger, female version of himself in terms of talking in slogans, avoiding detail and clocking up big spending promises.

    Now Peters is facing the real possibility of Labour forming a govt without him and he has made the mistake of not attacking Labour apart from occasional moans about them stealing policies from him. He has refused to enter into the television debates thinking them beneath a person of his status, dismissed clear polling trends & looked weak in avoiding any debates featuring Gareth Morgan.

    The Kingmaker has no clothes.

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    • Gezza

       /  September 8, 2017

      To be fair Helen Clark talked slogans & no detail & got Labour 3 terms.
      And then John Key talked slogans & no detail & got National 3 terms.
      So there’s good precedents for this approach after enuf people have got sick of the last lot.

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  5. lurcher1948

     /  September 8, 2017

    Whineys got my vote….

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  6. Gezza

     /  September 8, 2017

    FFS! Why? What is wrong with you, Lurch.?
    What possible sensible reason could you have for doing so?

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  7. lurcher1948

     /  September 8, 2017

    One tick red
    One tick black

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    • Patu

       /  September 8, 2017

      Good on ya Lurch, same here

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      • Gezza

         /  September 8, 2017

        Don’t encourage him please.

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        • Patu

           /  September 8, 2017

          So who is getting your second tick G, and why?

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          • Gezza

             /  September 8, 2017

            If you can find out who keeps downticking me & the party they hate the most it might be that one. 😠

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            • lurcher1948

               /  September 8, 2017

              I love down tickers it motivates them to get up and do something with their lives

            • Gezza

               /  September 8, 2017

              Have you discussed your voting intentions with RED?

            • Gezza

               /  September 8, 2017

              2 hours. And nothing! So I’m taking it the answer is NO – because you know what his reaction would be ! 😠

          • patupaiarehe

             /  September 8, 2017

            I have my suspicions G…

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            • Gezza

               /  September 8, 2017

              Well, not necessarily. I have at least one other anti-fan who just does it *religiously* on principle, even for the most innocuous posts. Me & a couple of other innocents.

  8. Conspiratoor

     /  September 8, 2017

    Politics and brinkmanship are easy bedfellows. Trump played this card beautifully in his much publicized withdrawals. Nothing to gain here for Winston and he knows it

    There’s space on tomorrows’ bus if any northerners have the gonads to take the ‘whiner’ on

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    • Gezza

       /  September 8, 2017

      Pop this on one of the empty seats for me. Post a cellclam clip of what happens, when you get a moment.

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  9. Patzcuaro

     /  September 8, 2017

    I prefer a wine over whisky but the whisky must keep Peters frisky.

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    • Patzcuaro

       /  September 8, 2017

      It seems odd that while Peters spends his time whining but prefers whisky.

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      • Gezza

         /  September 8, 2017

        It has become plainly obvious to me that God only invented Winston Peters so that New Zealand’s pensioners could get a Gold Card. Job well done there. Now time for him to go and use it.

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  10. sorethumb

     /  September 8, 2017

    Gareth Morgan says there is a $55 million hole in NZ First accounting. I’m not surprised and we shouldn’t be voting for amateurs. The problem is that vested interests aren’t amateurs and neither are the ideologically possessed nutters humanities turn out on the left.

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    • Gezza

       /  September 8, 2017

      Just out of interest, do you think not voting would improve matters? 😳

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      • sorethumb

         /  September 9, 2017

        What I’m saying is that political parties should get help when coming up with their proposals and with getting their views across. The problem would be setting a threshold. Perhaps a system where experts judge the viability of their ideas (Lion’s Den)?

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