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12 September 2017

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  1. Gezza

     /  September 12, 2017

    POLITICAL CONSIDERATIONS

    My neighbour out in front of me
    This time he won’t be voting
    He said the last last lot screwed him bad
    They need a bloody stoating

    Me northside neighbour’s voting Green
    He wants to save the planet
    I told him most my Forum says
    They’d root it if they ran it

    New Zealand First for me, says Bob
    That Winston he’s a winner
    You might get that bloke Shane I said
    And he’s a fucking sinner

    Well what about young Ron, he asked
    He’s been with him a while
    I said yeah hanging off his butt
    He’s like a flamin pile

    Me southside neighbours’ immigrants
    They both have come from China
    They’re voting Nats, like they were told
    At Ah Fook’s FuKing Diner

    Rose & Bill across the road
    Say they are Labour people
    It’s only Ardern though, they like
    Cos all her crew are feeble

    Geraldine, the pie shop lass
    Thinks TOP will make them bargain
    But I think she just hates all cats
    Cos they shit in her garden

    United Future’s done its dash
    And Marama is squawky
    But Maori Party I’ll still vote
    If just to piss off Corky

    by
    Sir Gerald Ormsby Battersea Bradders

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    • lurcher1948

       /  September 12, 2017

      Very good

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    • NOEL

       /  September 12, 2017

      Had a dentist who came from Iraq and his wall was plasted with selfies of him and John Keys. What is it with people who come from countries with dictatorships they appear to be attracted to National?

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  2. chrism56

     /  September 12, 2017

    See that despite all the hype. Irma has just died down to a storm as it went into Georgia. It wasn’t anywhere near as destructive as Andrew. If Ryan Maue is correct, both it and Harvey have been downgraded to Category 3 at continental landfall. That make 1915 bigger, or maybe 1933 when two hurricanes hit the USA 33 hours apart.
    The big problem is the power because they shut down the nukes and these take a while to start up.

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    • “It wasn’t anywhere near as destructive as Andrew.”

      There may be a number of Caribbean countries that claim otherwise. For example Barbuda, where most buildings were destroyed. St Martins, Puerto Rico, British Virgin Islands, Cuba, Dominican Republic and Haiti all incurred significant damage.

      Are you just referring to Florida? Certainly millions of people (about 7 million) evacuating helped save lives, but there was widespread wind damage and flooding, and power remains off to something like 6 million people.

      But it is still too soon to tell how bad the damage was. The extent in the Florida Keys in particular hasn’t been able to be determined yet.

      Just one preliminary report on damage in Florida: https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-florida-naples-orlando-tampa-jacksonville-miami-keys

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      • “In total, Andrew left 65 dead and caused $26.5 billion in damage.”

        “We believe the damage estimate from Irma to be about $100 billion — among the costliest hurricanes of all time. This amounts to 0.5 of a percentage point of the GDP of $19 trillion,” Myers said. “We estimated that Hurricane Harvey is to be the costliest weather disaster in U.S. history, at $190 billion, or 1 full percentage point of the GDP.”

        http://abcnews.go.com/US/hurricanes-harvey-irma-cost-us-economy-290-billion/story?id=49761970

        http://abcnews.go.com/US/hurricanes-harvey-irma-cost-us-economy-290-billion/story?id=49761970

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      • chrism56

         /  September 12, 2017

        There have been hurricanes in the Caribbean since time immemorial, including during the little Ice Age. Both IPCC and NOAA have stated that neither the frequency nor magnitude has increased. Their models indicate that by 2100, the frequency MAY drop but magnitude increase. The historical record indicates Florida gets hit by a hurricane on average every four years so there has been a drought.
        If you google “hurricane disasters Caribbean”, you will see even smaller hurricanes have killed a lot more people in quite recent times. Unfortunately, any place in its path will get nuked. The best one can hope for is people get enough warning and there are safe refuges for them.
        The damage has been really bad in Houston because as the regular hurricanes (1900 and 1935 in particular) shows the place floods really badly. In 1935, the flood was 3m deeper than it was during Harvey. The state governments have done nothing to stop people building on the flood areas, nor improve the disaster management. Florida did better because after Andrew, they upped the building codes, but they still allowed development in areas that would be underwater in a storm surge.
        If you go back in the news to when Irma was first in the news as likely to hit Florida, a number of celebrities and climate activists were gleefully talking about how it was revenge on Trump for not signing Paris.

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  September 12, 2017

      Ignorant fool… The devastation wreaked by Irma thorough out much of the Caribbean doesn’t figure in your evaluation. Are the inhabitants not white enough to matter?

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  3. Corky

     /  September 12, 2017

    Mikey Hosking has been bedridden for a week with a bad case of the flu, no doubt brought on by the stress of facing a reality of living in a country ruled by Comrade Jacinda.

    Be strong Mikey. Sometimes you have to lose a few battles to win the war. You will still be able slurp lattes laced with Turmeric on a sunny Saturday morning with the middle-class set.

    The only difference will be the once vibrant mood of the cafe scene will be somewhat muted as the reality of less money and more nanny state intervention sinks in.

    And that Turmeric will be attract at 10% cost increase to cover rising import duties.

    Lets not even think about Labours inevitable stab at trying to tax online shoppers. Talk about a disaster just waiting ……for Labour.

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    • Gezza

       /  September 12, 2017

      Just sent them an email telling them to focus on things like “dietary supplements” super-healthy foodstuffs, Goji juice, substances with magical or cure-all properties, pyramids, stones & objects with reported powers, & books or videos about weird nature cults, political skullduggery, sundry historical oddballs & strange ritual practices.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  September 12, 2017

        You’d think that he’d have had the sense to have the vaccine. Money well spent, although as an asthmatic I don’t pay for mine.

        I have known people who swear by Buccaline Berna-not gullible people, either.

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    • lurcher1948

       /  September 12, 2017

      Tis the ends of time but Saint Jacindas Wil rescue us

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      • PDB

         /  September 12, 2017

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        • lurcher1948

           /  September 12, 2017

          Who signs a free trade agreement with China where they can buy up New Zealand,all our land and houses including sir key old pad but New Zealand cannot purchase a mm of China….National does, forever grovelling to the mighty

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          • High Flying Duck

             /  September 12, 2017

            Umm – I think you’ll find Labour signed that deal me old mate.

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            • Blazer

               /  September 12, 2017

              people from anywhere around the world can buy up NZ land…they do not need a trade agreement,to do it!

            • High Flying Duck

               /  September 12, 2017

              But the FTA guarantees it and prevents legislating to stop it.

            • Blazer

               /  September 12, 2017

              be interested to see evidence of that!So NZ is obliged forever to allow Chinese to buy land here and we are forever prevented from buying land there.

            • lurcher1948

               /  September 12, 2017

              Yes i know but national let it run and run as Chinese bought up large

            • High Flying Duck

               /  September 12, 2017

              The China FTA (signed by Helen Clark) specifies no discrimination between local and Chinese investors – including land. They also have “most favoured status” which means they cannot be restricted in any way beyond restrictions on any other nations citizens – including Australians under CER.

            • Blazer

               /  September 12, 2017

              be that as it may ,I can’t accept that it prevents legislation by a sovereign nation,should that nation believe its interests are not being served.Clearly it is not reciprocal.National have been trying to downplay Labours role in negotiating the agreement,maintaining they have expanded it.TPP has more of this nonsense ,who needs it?

            • High Flying Duck

               /  September 12, 2017

              All FTA’s give away an element of Sovereignty – that is the point of them. They regulate trade, investment and access.
              You cannot have an FTA without making concessions on sovereignty.

            • Blazer

               /  September 12, 2017

              @HFD…that’s interesting,so what concessions relating to sovereignty did….China make?

          • PDB

             /  September 12, 2017

            Now you’re just embarrassing yourself Lurch…….

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            • lurcher1948

               /  September 12, 2017

              She and NZ were the first but hell paula benefits old man is on a chinese milk board Should i do a search to see how many X national MPs are on Chinese boards, could prove bad for national PS is Sir john been rewarded???? just wondering,must check

            • Blazer

               /  September 12, 2017

              Lurch means Collins,before the attack dogs descend.

            • High Flying Duck

               /  September 12, 2017

              Lurch – I think you mean Judith Collin’s husband being on the board of Oravida. Paula Bennett’s hubby is in construction.

            • Gezza

               /  September 12, 2017

              🤔 In construction? Joint replacements? 😳

  4. Corky

     /  September 12, 2017

    Managed to get through my first night of TV presenters paying tokenism to Maori language week. I must say the tokenism has improved.

    At least watching one of the great Sci-Fi films of all time- Starship Troopers- lightened my mood somewhat when I imagined these presenters having their brains sucked out of their skulls by the ‘ Chief Bug’

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    • sorethumb

       /  September 12, 2017

      I listened to RNZ reading letters in a mocking tone (not that they have a choice). It occured to me that at times we should listen to our lower selves “oh “f off”. Society should function on a willing voluntary basis; not PC basis?

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  5. lurcher1948

     /  September 12, 2017

    Opps it was Crusher Collins old man sorry Paula Benefit,So many National MPs with Chinese links its hard to keep up, Chinese water bottling company ,national will be in the back ground,

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  6. lurcher1948

     /  September 12, 2017

    Bill English opening up a Chinese water plant to give our water away for nothing,WHERES THE PRIDE IN NEW ZEALAND national party….none
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503458&objectid=11532137

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  7. lurcher1948

     /  September 12, 2017

    Hawkes Bay people drink and die drinking shallow well water, polluted by farm animals, The chinese water is the deep healthy water the stuff NEW ZEALANDERS should get to drink but BILL ENGLISH is in the pocket of the chinese ,do you want the rip off to continue, if you do vote…..

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  8. lurcher1948

     /  September 12, 2017

    Hannity on fox is getting excited, on 9/11 bringing up NK and iran, IF only the block head mentioned SAUDI ARABIA trumps best friend where the terrorists came from but then trump has a hotel in Saudi Arabia….just saying

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  9. lurcher1948

     /  September 12, 2017

    Hawkes Bay people drink and die drinking shallow well water, polluted by farm animals, The chinese water is the deep healthy water the stuff NEW ZEALANDERS should get to drink but XXXX XXXXXXX is in the pocket of the chinese ,do you want the rip off to continue, if you do vote…..XXXXXXX

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  10. lurcher1948

     /  September 12, 2017

    Who is the Brylcreem lackered MP always at Bill Englishs right shoulder, always there…

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  11. lurcher1948

     /  September 12, 2017

    Over on kiwiblog they are excited because a newshub poll puts national miles ahead greens in extinction mode NZF in danger Jacinda has been given a new childish name not Taxinda the man children are calling her Jacindadork and these children bloggers probably employ NZs and went to university.Very insecure posters are the right.scared of the loss of their cushy lifestyles…

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