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13 September 2017

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  1. chrism56

     /  September 13, 2017

    Another one of the media bubble latte set puts up a Labour defence about how bad farmers are:

    She complains about using labels to shut down debate, then does it herself. Just helps drive the last few wavering rural/ provincial votes to National and lower Herald sales

    [Post on this: https://yournz.org/2017/09/13/dont-feel-sorry-for-farmers/%5D

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  2. I wouldn’t have recognised him. The Stuff article says he has been frail “for some time” and was unavailable for comment due to illness, so she commented for him.

    He seemed old to me a long time ago so I suppose he’s getting on. Born in 1938 so he will be 79. He must be quite crook.

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    • Corky

       /  September 13, 2017

      Jim is a great example of the vagaries of fate. He was ready to assume the Christchurch Mayoralty with ease. An earthquake comes along and a charismatic Bob Parker destroys Jim’s quest. Truly, it ain’t over till the fat lady sings. Something Bill and Jacinda need to remember.

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      • Blazer

         /  September 13, 2017

        Jim Anderton is a politician of great conviction and principles.He didn’t need politics to make a living.His legacy is greater than that of Key and all other National P.M’s of the modern era.

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        • Ray

           /  September 13, 2017

          He certainly had plenty of convictions.
          It is worth remembering that the present secrecy surrounding suicides was driven by him after he had a close brush with it.
          Whether that was a good position to take seems to be now considered why we now have record levels of suicide.
          Thanks Jim

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          • Blazer

             /  September 13, 2017

            shameful to even think about connecting him to the suicide stats.Under National they are at all time highs.Is it the fault of politicians.Not directly I’m sure.

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    • Puts me in mind of a comment I encountered some years ago, to the effect that the world’s problems will be solved by engineers, not politicians or scientists.

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    • Blazer

       /  September 13, 2017

      yes exposing the reality of Chinese sounding surnames won’t sit well with data shy politicians who are wilfully ignorant.The Blue Plague of neo liberalism has destroyed the Kiwi Dream.

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  September 13, 2017

        Once again…the Chinese were given unfettered access by Labour.

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        • Blazer

           /  September 13, 2017

          That is not the point…we live in the NOW! I liked the Canadian research that revealed that foreign domiciled visa holders and owners of property in Vancouver paid less tax in Canada,than refugees.Another point was that governments did not want to collect comprehensive data and preferred to be wilfully blind as to the facts of locals being priced out of the market.One comparison showed that prior to the unleashing of the giant con of Reaganomics,Thatcherism/Rogernomics,the salary of a backbench M.P was on a par with that of a teacher.Today that M.P’s salary is TWICE that of the teacher=the M.P can still afford a house,but the teacher can just dream about owning one.Thats the new definition of the ‘Kiwi Dream’.

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          • High Flying Duck

             /  September 13, 2017

            You do leap around a lot when your argument fails don’t you.
            Teachers should get paid more – and back bench MP’s should be paid less. Nothing to do with FTA’s.
            If you think contracts should be broken at the whim of the state maybe you belong in a communist country yourself.
            As an aside Vancouver put in huge restrictions on foreign buyers of property which stalled the market – but it has taken off again. In the mean-time it has caused untold damage to businesses trying to find qualified staff in the IT field.

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            • Blazer

               /  September 13, 2017

              Vancouver introduced a 15% tax on foreign buyers.All the topics are connected.The main driver of land purchases by foreigners is the trillions created by Q.E to bail out the suited, rapacious,thieves and fraudsters encouraged by de regulation of the western banking systems.

            • Blazer

               /  September 13, 2017

              Contracts have always,always been broken at the whim of states.Not too aware of history are you?

            • High Flying Duck

               /  September 13, 2017

              Sorry Blazer – it was my page that leapt around – I associated your comment with the below post not the above.

              The tax in Vancouver has not worked:
              https://www.theatlas.com/charts/BkUc6lovW

              Trade agreements are rarely broken – much as Jacinda thinks countries like South Korea will “see reason” and just carve out something for her with no quid pro quo.

              There is generally too much to lose for both parties to not adhere to terms that are generally agreed over a number of years.

          • sorethumb

             /  September 13, 2017

            I agree that a party should be given credit for seeing the error of it’s ways. however Michael reddell points out that national and Labour are just two sides of the same coin. Jacida Adern said she wouldn’t be uncomfortable with 70,000/year and agreed with Helen clarks positive comments.

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    • sorethumb

       /  September 13, 2017

      “deeply problematic “’cause why?” – inconvienient truth?

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  September 13, 2017

        Cause no evidence – pure supposition based on a flimsy pretext. Read the article.

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        • MaureenW

           /  September 13, 2017

          The matter that there is no evidence should raise a flag, it does for me anyway.

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          • High Flying Duck

             /  September 13, 2017

            The thoughts of conspiracy theorists since forever…

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            • MaureenW

               /  September 13, 2017

              Really? Governments collect data and statistics on everything, tell me again they don’t know the nationality of those buying property in New Zealand, particularly when young New Zealanders seeking permanent housing now can’t afford it because property has increased exponentially and wages haven’t?

    • sorethumb

       /  September 13, 2017

      Why the nothing to see here reaction? For some they see racism before evidence of harm; for others, they are benefitting?

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    • sorethumb

       /  September 13, 2017

      Is anyone going to complain to the BSA -they will probably accept it:
      “the majority of news items and television programmes seem to focus on the “negatives” of immigration” -BSA? Is seem good enough?

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  4. High Flying Duck

     /  September 13, 2017

    Just for Blazer:

    A Labour government’s ban on foreign home buyers would have to exclude South Korean and Chinese nationals until after a free-trade deal renegotiation, leader Jacinda Ardern says.

    Labour announced on Sunday that if elected to government, it would bring in a ban on non-residents buying existing houses before Christmas.

    The New Zealand Institute of Economic Research says as a flow-on from the Korean deal, China also gets protection from such a ban under its FTA terms with New Zealand.

    Ms Ardern on Tuesday said a Labour government would still bring the ban into law by year’s end, but with an exception for countries granted immunity by trade deals.

    “It wouldn’t prevent your ability to make legislation. It just means there would be carve-outs,” she said.

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/09/labour-would-renegotiate-korea-trade-deal.html

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    • Blazer

       /  September 13, 2017

      what I’m waiting for is evidence of the concessions to sovereignty that China made in their FTA with NZ.You boldly stated every free trade agreement results in a loss of sovereignty.I am hoping it is not a one way street.Over to you.

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  September 13, 2017

        Seeing as you seem incapable of using Google:

        According to Statistics New Zealand and the Ministry for Foreign Affairs and Trade (MFAT), between 2009 and 2014, total goods trade between New Zealand and China doubled to $20 billion.

        New Zealand goods exports to China grew 50 per cent in the year to June 2014.

        Growth is faster with China than any of our other major trading partners. The growth in New Zealand’s total global exports since the FTA was signed is largely because of the growth in exports to China, MFAT says.

        What do we get?

        – It was agreed that New Zealand would gain better market access to China for trade, service
        and investment businesses.
        – Duty free access for 96 per cent of the categories of goods New Zealand exports to China. –
        – According to MFAT, this represented about $115.5 million in annual saving to exporters at
        the time of signing. In 2012, the saving was estimated at $250 million.
        – Future-proofing rules under our most favoured nation status to ensure service suppliers in
        some sectors would benefit from improved access China grants to other FTA partners in the
        future.
        – Faster and easier temporary entry to China for business people through improved visa
        processing.

        What do they get?
        – New Zealand will phase out all tariffs on products originating from China by 2016.
        – The FTA eliminates all tariffs on China’s exports to New Zealand over time. At the time of
        signing, 37 per cent of trade became duty-free.
        – Further reductions meant that from January 2013, more than 70 per cent of China’s exports
        to New Zealand were duty-free.
        – All New Zealand tariffs on products from China will be phased out by this year.

        http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/78820519/the-china-fta-what-have-we-gained-from-it-and-what-are-we-missing-out-on

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        • Blazer

           /  September 13, 2017

          Where is the evidence of your premise…that China compromised their sovereignty..there is none.The escalation in trade is quite incredible.The irony…NZ relies on a Communist country to prosper in the world!!

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          • High Flying Duck

             /  September 13, 2017

            They are not communist – they allow private wealth and free trade.
            They also allow NZ investment in China including investment into companies. This was not allowed previously and NZ have the same land leasing rights as Chinese citizens.
            What they get in ownership rights, we get in access to a 1.4b person market.
            You can quibble, but NZ is by far the winner in this agreement.

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            • Blazer

               /  September 13, 2017

              they still regard themselves as Communist.Even you must know the power structure there.

  5. High Flying Duck

     /  September 13, 2017

    The international investment markets know which Government is best for NZ:

    The New Zealand dollar jumped late yesterday, and held onto its gains overnight, after the latest opinion poll showed the National Party back in the lead and with the numbers to govern alone.

    The kiwi was trading at 72.88 US cents as at 8am in Wellington from 72.27 cents before the poll was released yesterday. The trade-weighted index rose to 75.87 from 75.24.

    The Newshub-Reid Research poll showed support for National rose 4 percentage points to 47.3 per cent while Labour fell 1.6 points to 37.8 per cent. The Greens fell below the 5 per cent threshold to sit at 4.9 per cent. National’s support would translate into 61 seats in the 120-seat parliament. Traders said the kiwi would have extended its gains if not for a resurgent US dollar.

    “It was a classic case of expecting one thing, but the opposite playing out, with the market wrongly positioned into the latest political poll,” said Sharon Zollner, senior economist at ANZ Bank New Zealand, in a note. “But it clearly highlights where the market’s attention will be over the coming couple of weeks, and speaks of whippy price action – despite the poll, the election remains anyone’s guess.”

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    • Blazer

       /  September 13, 2017

      Forex gambling reacts to political polls…no kidding!Yes we colonials should realise,the rest of the world knows whats good for us.National are certainly obedient neo liberal…lapdogs.Maybe you can tell me why Kiw Bank,Kiwi saver and the Cullen Fund are so despised by..National.

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      • sorethumb

         /  September 13, 2017

        “Close the immigration door completely… I object to people from all those countries coming here… If that trend continues, we will ruin New Zealand. We will make it just like any other part of the world” – see: Ranginui Walker hits out at the volume of immigrants coming into NZ.
        …….
        A Real Maori – not plastic (from AUT)

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        • Corky

           /  September 13, 2017

          The only thing Walker and I agree on. And he’s right. It’s happening already. Once our NZ identity dies…we die. And no one will care. They have our country.

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  September 13, 2017

        Show me a successful country with a cheap currency that is falling in value and I’ll start taking your FOREX gambling schtick seriously.

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        • Blazer

           /  September 13, 2017

          cheap currency’ relative to the $U.S ,you mean.I told you the $NZ is one of the most gambled currencies in the forex market.You have yet to enlighten me on the benefits of a floating dollar as opposed to other alternatives.Just a magic show predicated on military might is the reality.

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          • High Flying Duck

             /  September 13, 2017

            You’ve never asked about floating currencies vs fixed before…but it is fairly obvious a floating currency acts as a “relief valve” when a country hits economic difficulties. This has most recently been laid bare in Europe where the basket case economies such as Portugal and Greece have not been able to trade out of difficulty as they are trapped by the Euro which is held up by mainly Germany but also to an extent by France.
            A lower currency makes exported goods cheaper and increases the cost of imports. This rebalances the economy penalising consumption and incentivising export earnings. Over time this increases the capital in the country and encourages investment in the hope that the currency will rise as circumstances improve.
            Conversely Germany is absolutely storming along as the Euro is too low relative to their level of economic strength giving them an economic advantage.
            Even Trump was bright enough to see that…

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            • Blazer

               /  September 13, 2017

              A floating currency can be manipulated a la Soros attack on the pound,and Kriegers attack on the $NZ .The topic of Greece is a good example of the financial parasites and their chicanery.Goldman/Sachs cooked the books to allow Greece membership of the Euro.Debt is encouraged by the central bankers and the austerity imposed on Greece is an example of what happens when the pound of flesh is demanded.Retaining capital in NZ is not a priority for National,hence their lack of support for domestic initiatives.Exporting profits is their go.As the Euro is a floating currency you are contradicting yourself regarding the rebalancing impact while singling out Germany as being disavantaged.

          • Corky

             /  September 13, 2017

            Just as well you don’t visit ‘The Whaler,’ Blazer. Turns out Joyce may be right afterall.

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            • Blazer

               /  September 13, 2017

              if Joyce was right at least one economist or analyst would have come forward and backed him up…by now.

            • Corky

               /  September 13, 2017

              Early days..we don’t have good economists. They couldn’t predict a fart in an elevator.

            • Gezza

               /  September 13, 2017

              Most people can’t. That’s the worst thing about farts in elevators. Lifts can go up and down, full of people, all day, & there’s no problem at all, all week. And then – the one time you get into one, when it’s absolutely chocka with fat people – who all have flamin wet umbrellas – & you’re stuck right at the back when it gets to your floor – somebody in front lets rip with a real stinker! And that’s always one of those bloody times for some bloody reason the doors won’t bloody open!

            • Gezza

               /  September 13, 2017

              Something like that did actually happen when I was in a lift in Sun House (dunno what it’s called now). You know how, when an irrepressible fart bursts forth in a lift like that – no one wants to apologise because then you’d know it was them, & no one wants to say anything because frankly even if it wasn’t you, now everyone’s embarrassed & feeling awkward & just hoping they can make it to their floor without bursting out laffing or sniggering.

              Well, not Stevie, the gruff little tuff harry from HR. Off my right shoulder he says, in a loud voice: “Jeez – whoever did that mate your guts are fucking rotting!”

              He told me afterwards it was him!

  6. sorethumb

     /  September 13, 2017

    Analysis of Labour’s plans for RNZ
    If elected, Labour is promising a new free-to-air public television service run by RNZ. It would be known as RNZ+ and would be funded out of a new annual contestable pool of $38 million.
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=201858298

    Russell Brown the commentator.
    Same old crowd will be in the driving seat – just like The Standard. No deplorables allowed to air their views (except for the most egregious).

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  7. Pete Kane

     /  September 13, 2017

    Wonder if our astronomically (and Southern Gentleman) minded Editor has heard this?
    “Central Otago town nears official dark sky status”
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/201858315/central-otago-town-nears-official-dark-sky-status

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  8. duperez

     /  September 13, 2017

    The Herald online headline has “Manhunt for Brisbane school intruder’. The story says “A manhunt is underway”.

    I wonder if, when they catch him and ask him about his life, he can have the pleasure of telling them he’s the “chairperson” of some outfit.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11921732

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  9. PDB

     /  September 13, 2017

    National find their election mojo…

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    • Blazer

       /  September 13, 2017

      only on ‘hard working’ NZ’ers,rather ..selective.

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      • PDB

         /  September 13, 2017

        You’re not included then?

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        • Blazer

           /  September 13, 2017

          depends what you call…hard work’..eh .I don’t regard my occupation as hard work at..all.

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  September 13, 2017

        Well people keep blathering on about the 1% being the problem – that leaves the 99% for Labour to tax and impose significant compliance costs on.

        Lots of talk about the taxes – little about the dead hand of the state and the costs of compliance that people will need to stump up for on top of the taxes themselves.

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    • High Flying Duck

       /  September 13, 2017

      An objectively meaningless article in the extreme. It even more or less says so in the article.

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      • Blazer

         /  September 13, 2017

        I see…more or less…in your opinion is more accurate.Favourable information about Labours economic competence is always hard for some to accept.

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  10. BobJ

     /  September 13, 2017

    Boo hoo – http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11921620

    If you don’t vote for the barrel you don’t get the pork!

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    • pickled possum

       /  September 13, 2017

      Ah Dr Reti I presume!
      the story still lives on and on …

      The unexpected resignation of a National MP saw a cavalcade of ministers and promises head north, offering bridges and other shiny gifts to a part of the country which had felt ignored for so long.

      “For a brief moment during the 2015 by-election, the dust thrown up by those trucks became a big issue for everyone.

      By a stroke of a pen about 10 years earlier, Wright Rd and McCardle Rd were designated logging routes diverting a seemingly-endless convoy of trucks along metal roads.

      Dust covered everything as the trucks thundered along a road built for rural services and not heavy industry. The forests they carried the logs from weren’t even close by

      Reti heard of a road blockage planned by frustrated residents about half-an-hour outside his electorate.
      …. mother-of-seven and farmer Alex Wright, 53, would watch clouds of dust swept up and across the neighbourhood by as many as 120 logging trucks a day.

      Reti rang Wright: “It just happens that the spotlight’s on us at the moment, that’s just the consequence of where we are.”

      He said: “Hold your breath for the next two-and-a-half weeks.”
      Bully Tactics?

      It started in 2004. In 2016, the roads outside the 10 houses got a stretch of seal to keep the dust down. The whole lot should be sealed by 2020.

      Alex Wright said, “we’ve got scientific data we’re living in an unsafe environment.”

      With other costs – bridge, dust suppressant – the total cost is around $5m for the logging trucks shortcut.

      Wright says of Reti: “He’s gone very quiet now.”

      Reti did not respond to a request to be interviewed.

      Who else have we got for Whangarei?

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      • Conspiratoor

         /  September 13, 2017

        Who else …jones …shane Jones.

        The other shane went quiet the day he sleepwalked his way into a safe seat. I’d like to see him kicked to the kerb but that ain’t gonna happen sadly

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  11. Zedd

     /  September 13, 2017

    Newsflash (TV3); a Natz MP was allegedly a ‘secret military agent’ from the Chinese Communist party, prior to coming to NZ ? WTF

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    • Blazer

       /  September 13, 2017

      ‘The spy who came into the…fold’…National the global party.

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      • Blazer

         /  September 13, 2017

        ‘Mr Jian Yang says talk to my boss, talk to my boss, declares he has nothing to hide, but he won’t answer questions. And bolts.

        National MP Jian Yang studied at a top Chinese spy school before moving to NZ. 🎥🗞 Melanie Reid, Mark Jennings https://t.co/2chENsEhal pic.twitter.com/FaqF6EKU4w— Newsroom (@NewsroomNZ) September 13, 2017′

        media shy National,embedded…M.P.

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        • Zedd

           /  September 13, 2017

          more muck & skeletons.. hidden in the vast tory closet.. ?

          quick sweep it back in & hope no one notices ! 😀

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