“…this whole election has just been a giant fucking kick to the guts?”

Inevitably there are people who are disillusioned by election campaigns as they become aware their ideals are a long way from being realised.

From Reddit: An election of disappointments…

Far out. Is anyone else feeling like this whole election has just been a giant fucking kick to the guts? This is the first election that I’ve followed closely (during previous ones I’ve been too young and distracted). But yeah, this whole lead up to the election has continually pushed me further down a path of disappointment in politics.

Before the election campaigning started, the state of NZ was pretty disappointing. Huge inequality, super high imprisonment rates, high child poverty, tax loop holes that were massively perpetuating inequality, disproportionate housing prices, high suicide rates, environmental destruction/pollution… you get the picture – NZ certainly had room to improve.

Initially it was looking like another National win. Disappointing, more of the same inequality perpetuated…

Then the Greens (who were, in my opinion, a shining light of hope in that at least the environment might get some wins) started pushing their environmental policies to the back benches, in their attempts to win more votes through social/economic polity. On top of that, the Greens then fell victim to some silly nonsense that was blown out of proportion by the media. Disappointing that the media did that, and that the general public reacted the way they did…

It was great to see Turei standing up for her values, and to see a bit of an up-rising of people in similar (oppressed) positions. But then she gave up, and stood down… disappointing.

Then Labour changed their leadership (but kept 90% of the same policies), and the public started frothing at the loins. It was heartening that we might be able to take a small step toward more equality with Labour’s policies, but disappointing that the public could be so shallow as to have their vote swung by a new face alone.

And now, for fuck’s sake, Labour has bowed to National’s pressure and the size of the possibly small step in the right direction (toward more equality) just got 100x smaller… we’re now all staring down the barrel of the same old gun of perpetuating inequality no matter which major party wins… disappointing as fuck.

The one true beacon of hope in all of this, in my opinion, has been TOP. A fresh party with fresh policies that are actually based on evidence and expert input. But again, disappointing that the general public seem to be too blinkered to even take the time to consider an alternative…

I guess I should just be happy that I’ve been lucky enough to have had the amazing opportunities that have placed me above the half way mark, and I’m on the lucky side of the perpetuating inequality… but still, it feels like a kick to the guts. NZ can’t really win this election.

Are all elections this disappointing?

Can anyone point out some positives for me? Please?

Parties and candidates can’t please all of the people all of the time.

But in their desperation to appeal to all voters do they end up disappointing everyone?

I’m certainly disappointed by the quality of this campaign, by what is on offer and how it has been offered.

16 Comments

  1. PDB

     /  September 15, 2017

    “Can anyone point out some positives for me? Please?”

    Yes – leave the country, one less socialist snowflake.

    The problem with this election is that there is (supposedly) money to spend and drunken sailors are everywhere. Bugger all policy has been produced to actually move the country forward economically and that may come back to bite.

    • Patzcuaro

       /  September 15, 2017

      Yes they are drunk on the elixir of power, just a whiff is enough to addle their brains and they don’t have to pay for it, we do.

    • Gezza

       /  September 15, 2017

      I thought that was quite a poignant, reasonably well-argued outpouring of feeling by someone with the capacity to express it well that we had a bit of a better society in some areas or aspects. Hope they don’t give up on that. A few more years of experience will probably make all the difference.

      Political discussions – and politics – can get pretty robust, and downright nasty! But once you take away the small number of psychopaths, most of us really just want ourselves & other people to be living productive, useful & happy lives. And if we can’t leave our little corner of the world a better place, when our time comes – at least we haven’t made it a worse one? Don’t we?

  2. Tipene

     /  September 15, 2017

    Oh dear, another person expecting representative democracy to empower the marginalized voter.

    Doesn’t work that way, snowflake, which is why close to a million eligible NZ voters don’t bother, which if they got organised, wouldn’t be marginalized anymore, would they?

    Of course, this situation suits the incumbents just fine.

    Dotcom, Craig, and Morgan have all had a go – there is just not enough will in the “marginalized” or “dispossessed” voter base to get anyone new over the 5% line.

    Which gives us a clue as to how content with their lives the majority of the active voting base actually appears to be, or how fickle the supposedly “marginalized’ really are when it comes to voting for the good of the country verses the good of the self.

    We are are a country of low wages, low economic growth, and low expectations.

    Elections? it’s like the circus coming through town every three years – it’s the same show, it’s just the some of the performers are different.

    • sorethumb

       /  September 15, 2017

      The Greens have tonnes of infrastructure. It is NZF that has none. Note how the Greens are all over The Standard – it is only working class New Zealanders who are the unclean over there.

  3. pickled possum

     /  September 15, 2017

    Laughing and maintaining a sense of humor can:

    Help you become more resistant to disease by rejecting stress hormones and increasing antibodies that fight infection
    Help your muscles relax
    Help you let go of stress and stay positive in negative situations
    Help you through times of sadness and anxiousness
    “Increase energy for your brain and body”, helping you stay focused and be less afraid or overwhelmed by life’s challenges
    Help you make a good first impression and emotionally connect with people
    Help you get through disagreements that cause anger and pain

    https://wakeup-world.com/2017/09/15/laughter-in-an-insane-world/

    Try it.

    • Corky

       /  September 15, 2017

      Lurchy and Kitty give us all a good laugh…and keep our spirits light. And a light spirit we will need as the last week of madness( and uncertainty) beckons.

  4. Ever considered anarchism?

    Awsm.nz

    • Gezza

       /  September 15, 2017

      👍🏼 Describes my life to a T.

      • Gezza

         /  September 15, 2017

        Anarchy, I mean. I didn’t read the link. I’m too much of an anarchist to bother with reading anything. I just go with the flow. So far I’ve managed to stay out of prison, have a roof over my head, a car, 3 pukekos, 2 ducks, & 7 guitars. It’s working ok for me!

  5. Alan Wilkinson

     /  September 15, 2017

    Politicians in a democracy are no better than the voters. You’d better be disappointed in the voters then.

    So if you want something good to happen better get off your backside, find some other good people and work together to make it happen. But if it depends on support from the average voter chances are it will never happen. Which is why the less the Government is allowed to control beyond protecting life and property the better.

  6. Joe Morgun

     /  September 15, 2017

    It is my contention that any government is not on our side. By our side, I mean the great unwashed. A government is on the side of government. Individual members start with very good intentions, but it becomes too bloody hard to maintain the first flush of concern, and most will throw in the towel, only to be resurrected at election time. Most, ‘living’ in the artificial environment of Parliament, the concern for those outside of it is dismissed, replaced by the favouring of the jousting of a tournament. Politicians are ‘human’ first, with all its arse covering and self-aggrandising characteristics replacing a consistent ‘saviour for whatever cause, a trailing second place.

  7. I stopped reading halfway through “fucking”, so I have neither idea nor interest in what was said. As a one-time sailor and frequenter of seedy English pubs and sleazy wharfside bars, I am well used to hearing, and speaking that adjective, but experience tells me that words written in conjunction with it are rarely worth reading, unless in a cleverly satirical context.

    I realise that probably sounds rather pompous, but it really, really irritates me, so I hope you others will pardon an old man venting his foible.

    PS: I did catch the last line as it stood alone in bold: “Can anyone point out some positives for me? Please?” Yes. Be thankful you have an election. Most folk in this world have never had the good fortune to experience such a thing.

    • Gezza

       /  September 16, 2017

      For me, fucking is such an overused, overrated expletive it’s lost any power to shock or annoy. My old man was a WW2 veteran of North Africa & Italy. Machine gunner. I still remember some of the short stories he’d tell us, Sailor, as young boys and teenagers. Little vignettes of the things he did & saw that made you smile. Not the things he saw that made you feel sick, or horrified, or sad, or angry at what humans can do to each other when madmen gain control.

      He told us the most expressive use of the F word he ever heard was in what he always called The Western Desert. He & his company came across a (forgive please, the vernacular) a pommy desptach rider, kicking the hell out of his his motorbike, which was lying on the ground. “What’s wrong with it, mate?”

      “The fucken fucker’s fucked!”

      • That, Gezza, is precisely how the word should be used. It actually has some meaning and context there. It also must be spoken for proper effect, as the sounds are very much what make it work. Your quote works because I can hear the guy saying it.

        As a written word, outside satire, it is like throwing tomato ketchup on a rare steak, thinking it will improve the flavour. It doesn’t shock me, it just irritates, like a fly that keeps landing on your ear. And that, ironically, is usually a justification for its use.

        • Meant to add “Fuck Off, Fly!!” as an example for the last sentence. The alliteration helps too, as it does with your quote.