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16 September 2017

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62 Comments

  1. Corky

     /  September 16, 2017

    Take 10.000. Ready! Action! Cameras.

    1-Tersea May calls a meeting. Teresa May should be charged with treason.

    2- London’s mayor, a despiser of moderate Muslims, has told these dastardly villains…you wont destroy our way of life. Guess what, Einstein. Not only have they changed Western life; they are in control.

    3- Here’s a beauty from Boris Johnston: “Everybody should keep calm and go about their lives in a normal way, as normal as they possibly can,” Mr Johnson said.

    Hey dude!! That’s what these disfigured Westerners were doing. What does ”as normal as they possibly can, mean?” Is that a capitulation, you prick.

    4- Lets see, have I missed anything out? Yes, quite a lot. But lets not quibble.

    Nowhere do I hear someone saying: ‘Enough is enough. No more Muslims.’ I don’t see anyone pulling down Mosques proven to teach radicalism. I don’t see a crack down on Muslim communities. I just see the same old, same old.

  2. lurcher1948

     /  September 16, 2017

    The RIGHT at their nasty best,my how they HATE their fellow New Zealanders…
    duggledog

    ‘Union workers who complained about unsafe conditions at Save Mart stores have been made redundant, soon after John Campbell was invited to the New Lynn store to see the operation for himself.’

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/201858731/save-mart-fires-workers-after-safety-complaints-union

    “We’ve got a whole bunch of union members – and they’re all women – who have commitments, children, some of them are solo mothers and they’re distraught and don’t know where to turn. We now have to navigate through that.”

    Good on you John! Unintended consequences.

    Never mind. Maybe one of these ladies can come and clean your house, where you will no doubt pay them a Living Wage!

    Principles are all well and good in the top part of town but they’re not very sustaining at the lower end.
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    • Corky

       /  September 16, 2017

      Motto of the story…don’t join a union. National has made it clear to workers over the last 9 years that unions are an anacohorism and destroyer of economic prosperity.

      The foul fragrance of union intransigence still comes to mind as I remember hunkering down at Wellington’s ferry terminal for the night in a very cold state. The Unions had decided, along with Comrade Anderson, to go on struck.

      ”The RIGHT at their nasty best,my how they HATE their fellow New Zealanders…”

      That’s not true. Unions,yes.

      • Corky

         /  September 16, 2017

        *strike*

      • Patzcuaro

         /  September 16, 2017

        Moral of the story – don’t use the blue bins.

      • Blazer

         /  September 16, 2017

        I doubt the Farmers have any intention of disbanding their Union anytime soon.

        • chrism56

           /  September 16, 2017

          They don’t need to. It isn’t compulsory to join.

          • Blazer

             /  September 16, 2017

            lot of unions like that.Why do you think so many farmers belong to a union,given the connotations?

            • chrism56

               /  September 16, 2017

              Another failure by you Blazer. The thread started with Corky talking about ferry strikes which regularly occurred when membership of that union was compulsory to work there.
              There are many within the union movement that want a return to those days. Labour party policy where nation wide awards are set, is a defacto compulsory unionism.

            • Corky

               /  September 16, 2017

              Farmers don’t hold people to ransom…unions do. Farmers also provide my organic blueberries, buffalo milk cheese and Cherimoyas…chuck in some organic meat, too.

              The unions don’t give me shite…except grief and a dumbed down future generation.

            • Blazer

               /  September 16, 2017

              @Corky union workers are involved in transporting and processing the Farmers union ‘s products so you the consumer get to enjoy them.

            • Blazer

               /  September 16, 2017

              @Chrism56…studies show the most prosperous states in the U.S have strong union membership.The Farmers Union can get quite militant,fart tax action comes to mind,and recently the mooted water tax,has them showing their..teeth.

            • chrism56

               /  September 16, 2017

              Is that those states where there used to be car factories but got closed because the wage rates got too high? Or those like California where all the jobs are going to Texas, leaving behind those with a guaranteed state pension and no one to pay for it?

  3. chrism56

     /  September 16, 2017

    If you want to see how relentlessly positive Labour really are, look at LPrent’s rant on homepaddock
    https://homepaddock.wordpress.com/2017/09/15/labours-no-show/#comments
    They really hate provincial NZ.

    • Blazer

       /  September 16, 2017

      Farmers never vote Labour.You can never do enough for Farmers,.

      • chrism56

         /  September 16, 2017

        Another fail Blazer. How many farmers live in Wanaka and surrounds? The town has yuppified.

    • Corky

       /  September 16, 2017

      A simple solution for taming this ranting keyboard warrior…let the farmers go on strike for two weeks. Once he has no milk for his union certified instant coffee, he will change his tune. And hopefully upgrade to lattes like the rest of us.

      • Blazer

         /  September 16, 2017

        latte guy!!!…surely you jest,or do you dunk your raspberry bun in it?…Bol.

        • Corky

           /  September 16, 2017

          You don’t eat a RB when you are with the latte crowd. It’s bad form. You eat quiche and Tiramisu. And you don’t dunk. You save that disgusting behaviour for Joe’s Grill.

    • phantom snowflake

       /  September 16, 2017

      That’s a FAIL chrism56. LPrent has been very clear that he’s supporting The Greens this time around.

      • Corky

         /  September 16, 2017

        LPrent should remember that old saying: how does it go? ‘ Better to be thought of as a fool, rather then speak and be confirmed as….’

        • phantom snowflake

           /  September 16, 2017

          He’s likely smarter than you and I put together!

          • Corky

             /  September 16, 2017

            I doubt that. He’s voting Greens. The one billion point two tree parrty. I said at the time that was bs and it is. Someone did the sums and they would need to plant ten thosand trees at day, or a week, can’t remember, to come within their targeted timeline.

  4. Conspiratoor

     /  September 16, 2017

    The whale scores another great contribution by a guest. A doctor with solid experience at the coal face presents a compelling argument why jacinda should never be allowed to go anywhere near healthcare

    The best healthcare in the world is achieved in liberal democracies with Universal Healthcare but ONLY when the government is conservative

    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/09/a-doctors-perspective/#more-333585

    • Blazer

       /  September 16, 2017

      when did Cuba,acknowledged has having exemplary healthcare for its citizens,become…Conservative?

      • Conspiratoor

         /  September 16, 2017

        Apart from its crumbling infrastructure requiring serious attention I concede you may have uncovered the exception to every rule. It would be interesting to get the good doctor’s view on cuban healthcare

        • Blazer

           /  September 16, 2017

          my great grandfather died of lung cancer.Doctors then maintained that, they by a large majority recommended…Camels.

      • Corky

         /  September 16, 2017

        Pace yourself, Blazer. The last week will be hectic. In fact, I might take three days off to recharge myself. No doubt, the Left, win or lose, will become very vocal and nasty. All Righties need to fortify themselves for that onslaught. Facing the feral Left is never an easy task. Lets hope Pete is up to it.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  September 16, 2017

          Three days off ? Make it three weeks-months-years.

          How you can complain about politics when you do nothing to attempt change (voting is free and very little trouble) is a mystery.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  September 16, 2017

            I wonder if doctors really did say that, as I have seen old ads that have doctors supposedlyendorsing other brands. Camel may well have been making this up. I have read a book published in 1951-66 years ago-that had a casual reference to someone not smoking because ‘he didn’t want to get cancer’. Cigarettes have been called coffin nails since the 19th century,

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  September 16, 2017

            While you’re away, Corky, look up the word feral in a dictionary.

  5. lurcher1948

     /  September 16, 2017

    One tick RED
    One tick BLACK

    • Corky

       /  September 16, 2017

      No, Lurchy. Someone gave you the wrong song sheet. Listen up…

      Think right
      Vote right
      Be right
      That’s right

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  September 16, 2017

        TOP’s party colours look like a knock-off of the Maori Party’s colours; the blue is so dark that it looks like black.

        Conservative is talking the same old nonsense. All generalisations and nothing specific.

  6. lurcher1948

     /  September 16, 2017

    Im for the unions…yes i am,yes i am…

  7. lurcher1948

     /  September 16, 2017

    I’m a union man,yes i am

  8. lurcher1948

     /  September 16, 2017

    you are winning PG so tired of moderation its your blog but im been left behind.my posts look stupid trying to catch up, SAY LURCHER1948 depart and i might go…maybe

    • You post too many comments that don’t pass muster. Don’t post crap or abuse and you won’t have a problem.

    • Gezza

       /  September 16, 2017

      Lurchy if you want to post crap or abuse you need to do it with at least a modicum of civility & ambiguity. I charge $25 an hour if you would like some lessons.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  September 16, 2017

        Why not tell us more about your lovely dog with the velvet ears ?

        Mine is too fluffy to have velvet ears, but he’s perfect as he is.

        • Gezza

           /  September 16, 2017

          I don’t have a loveky dog with velvet ears. I have 3 generally well-behaved pukekos with purple & black feathers that are groomed several times a day and only look a bit untidy when its windy, when the black ones get a bit of a ‘flyaway’ look if the pooky has its back to the wind. A quiet, demure young mallard / grey duck hybrid hen. And a fat ass lazy young mallard drake who takes stupid risks stunt flying & gave us all the heebie jeebies this morning.

          • Gezza

             /  September 16, 2017

            * and loveky should have said lovely

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  September 16, 2017

            I see pooks flying across a stream nearby. Often they land all right, if not with great gracefulness, but some misjudge and go SPLAT into the water on the far side, then have to scramble out trying to look dignified.

            I love the way that they fly as if they had never done it before and are astonished to find themselves in the air-help, what do I do now ????

            • Gezza

               /  September 16, 2017

              Yep. That sounds like my lot too. Might be rellies? Mine look a bit like mayflies when they fly – the way their legs hang down. I tend to regard most of those awkward touchdowns as related to problems with the landing gear being too far extended, and/or angle of approach. They have extraordinarily long wings for such poor low-level short-hop fliers.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 17, 2017

              I have seen some longish flights, and the pooks tend to look as if they are trying not to look surprised at this achievement. They never learn to fold their legs up. The sight of one trying to maintain some sort of dignity when it goes SPLASHHHHH !!!! and has to wade out instead of gliding gracefully onto the bank is very funny.

              They may be pests, but they are very endearing pests. They are so well established as motifs for bags and other things that I think that they are not pests in many people’s eyes. I have a bag with pooks on it.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  September 16, 2017

            You should see the chooks who wander around this part of the street. They look like chooks in paintings, all different patterns & all lovely. Nobody knows whose they are, they just saunter into people’s gardens and across the road-none ever seem to be squashed, which is nice but surprising, as they just step out and expect cars to stop. I saw some running like mad after a car up a drive, like people running madly after a bus in the hope that the driver will see them and stop,

  9. lurcher1948

     /  September 16, 2017

    China runs the world

  10. sorethumb

     /  September 16, 2017

    Putnam says social capital effects our health (he compares not having face to face meeting with friends with smoking).
    The US is becoming more and more divided. Kids need a stable (family) environment
    He says he would never (normally ) talk with a conservative. While diversity is strongly co related with hunkering down (non-participation) he is a fan of pushing on with the multicultural project. The next video in the series looks at the way society is breaking up “falling apart” (all in a good cause – diversity)

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  September 16, 2017

      The idea that social isolation is as bad for the health as smoking is not new. There has been a campaign in the UK that says that it’s as bad as 15 cigarettes a day.

      What can anyone do to make families ‘stable’ ? It’s never been universal, and anyone who says that it has knows nothing about history and hasn’t read any social realism fiction from other eras.

      People have been saying that society is breaking up for centuries-literally.

  11. Patzcuaro

     /  September 16, 2017

    Who has English’s back? We have a finance minister that can’t add, a foreign ministry that turns 20 days into 712 with an OIA, a deputy prime minister who think some NZer’s have fewer rights than others and a Minister of Health who won’t front.

    Surely we pay Ministers to front up with a explanation. Is enough money going into health or does it take an election to expose the fact that everything is under funded. I listen to Coleman on RNZ once and he talked about solving the DHB’s deficits by altering the depreciation rates. As if that is going to help someone who needs medical attention.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11922533

    I’m sure if a MP has a health issue, they are not told sorry we don’t have enough money. Even English seemed lost when confronted about life on the minimum wage, all he could suggest was talk to your employer.

    Perhaps we should talk to our employees via the ballot box, see how they like living on a back benchers salary instead of a minister’s salary, still that beats minimum wage. Sounds like the National government has lost touch with reality.