Man dies after protest at Parliament

The man who is reported to have set himself on fire in a protest in the grounds of parliament yesterday has died.

More on this when available.

28 Comments

  1. NOEL

     /  September 22, 2017

    RIP buddy. To many men been driven to destitution by IRD’s inflexible maintenance orders calculations
    .

    • Gezza

       /  September 22, 2017

      We’ll have to wait for the Coroner’s report. Are they even able to report on this? We con’t know at this stage anything about this poor chap. The sign he left at Parliament is pretty garbled.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  September 22, 2017

        Perhaps English isn’t his first language, It didn’t sound like a family court thing somehow, more like immigration.

        I remember years ago when someone did this and a schoolboy ran into a shop and grabbed their fire extinguisher, then ran out-didn’t waste time on explanations. Alas, the man died anyway. But it was quick thinking.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  September 22, 2017

          I imagine that it will be a little while before the coroner’s report is out, even though it’s a foregone conclusion.

        • Gezza

           /  September 22, 2017

          Have you noticed the leader of the Labour Party does not recognise or use the letter T?

          She always replaces it with a D?

          Why would that be, do you think?

  2. lurcher1948

     /  September 22, 2017

    Vote National BLUE then its not going to end good for men, maybe

  3. Alan Wilkinson

     /  September 22, 2017

    Too many people have forgotten the healing power of touch and a hug.

    • Patzcuaro

       /  September 22, 2017

      When I listen to John Kirwan’s talk on depression he, as part of his talk got everybody (mainly men, it was a rural get together) to stand up and hug 5 people you didn’t know. Probably something we don’t do often enough.

      • Gezza

         /  September 22, 2017

        It’s risky. If you do it in a train it’s likely to be Christmas & you’re likely to coming home from the office Xmas Party. It can be very easily misunderstood & require a guard to rush quickly down the carriage telling everybody to settle down, that it’s probably just someone feeling a bit over-merry. Don’t ask me how I know.

        • patupaiarehe

           /  September 22, 2017

          Funny story G, but it isn’t really something to joke about. I personally know someone who is close to suicidal, due to the family courts prejudice against men. He is fortunate enough to have supportive family & friends, who keep him from doing something like this.

          • Gezza

             /  September 22, 2017

            And a hug works for some men & absolutely doesn’t for others. Like talking about your depression problems. For some, talking about it makes it worse.
            I have heard enuf about the Family Court’s prejudice against men in relation to access to their children to believe it is indeed a problem. However the jangled sign left by this poor bloke indicates there is something possibly not quite right with him & we do not know the details. Men who should b granted easier access to their children & men who clearly should not both rail against the Court. We know nothing of this case.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  September 22, 2017

              He obviously needed help. He was someones father, & someones son. And he chose to end his life in a horrific manner. Which certainly indicates that something wasn’t right…

            • Gezza

               /  September 22, 2017

              Agreed.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  September 23, 2017

              I’m interested in your belief it absolutely doesn’t work for some men. Right time, place, person and preparation?

            • Gezza

               /  September 23, 2017

              Is that to me Alan? Suffered from often severe anxiety & depression since age 20, off & on. Think you’d got it licked & it would come back & smack you when you weren’t expecting it. No probs personally doing the hug thing, when younger it seemed hip & cool too – hippy thing. I was into that. Actually I was into quite a bit of stuff. But in terms of theraputic value, hugs? – fuck-all use.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  September 23, 2017

              Hugs work for everyone. Most men resist them though, except from folk close to them.

            • Gezza

               /  September 23, 2017

              So, that’s me. Got a marrried cuzzie who’s farming in the Naki. Connections to farming via her turangawaewae, Waikato. She’s a nurse too. Well plugged in to the high suicide rate of farmers, In fact the first I heard of it was thru her. She told me once that some stressed out men farmers couldn’t handle the MHS system because they wanted them to let it all out, be emotional etc. Especially female psychologists. It made them worse. It didn’t feel right. They’d disengage. Then they’d kill themselves, because now they felt totally fukd up.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  September 23, 2017

              As an erstwhile farmer G, I understand what she says. Can’t say I enjoyed waking up at 4am to get the herd to the shed, but it was balanced out by doing sweet FA once milking was over in the fall…

            • Gezza

               /  September 23, 2017

              Hullo. I’ve woken up a bit. Man i was falling asleep into the FiP before!
              It’s the money, the banks, patu. The banks are only lending to the big corporate farms & squeezing the smallholders. Its all they’ve ever done. It’s all they want to do. They’ve got the emotional richness of Steve Hansen. Then they’re told they’ve gotta be ballet dancers.

            • Gezza

               /  September 23, 2017

              Sometimes its the family farm they’re losing, the one their grandpappy had.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  September 23, 2017

              They need to wake up & fight. Don’t surrender to those who create money that they don’t have in the first place…

            • Gezza

               /  September 23, 2017

              Righto. I’ll get it chiselled on their headstones.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  September 23, 2017

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  September 23, 2017

              Of course it’s not going to cure clinical depression, G. But it can help to navigate life’s rocks and storms.

            • Gezza

               /  September 23, 2017

              Yeah, I know.
              Oh all right!
              Giz a hug Al. ❤️☘
              🤔 Man-hug, mind. 💪🏼 ‼️😘