Election night

Electoral Commission target times for results:

  • by 8:30pm all advance vote results
  • by 10:00pm results from 50% of voting places
  • by 11:30pm results from 100% of voting places

1.2 million advance votes – these (less special votes of which there could be up to half a million) may or may not give us a good idea what the final election night result will be. Specials are included in the final results due 7 October, and they could change things substantially, or not.

Worth remembering tonight – polls are approximate measures of preferences in the past, not measures of votes in the future.

Plenty of options to follow the results and listen to the pundits trying to sound knowledgeable, trying to be the first one to ‘call the result’, and trying to make it about them rather than about 3 million eligible voters.

John Campbell and Guyon Espiner with Jane Patterson and Mihingarangi Forbes.

1 NEWS political editor Corin Dann with Mike Hosking, Hilary Barry, Simon Dallow, Wendy Petrie, Jehan Casinader,

 

Duncan Garner with Patrick Gower and Lisa Owen

And Annabelle Lee, Linda Clark, Matthew Hooton, David Cormack, Trish Sherson, Jon Johansson, Morgan Godfrey

Oriini Kaipara, Matai Smith and Heta Gardiner will be crossing to reporters across the country, and in the studio Dame Tariana Turia Sir Mark Solomon.

Heather du Plessis-Allan and Tristram Clayton with guests including Audrey Young, Fran O’Sullivan and Liam Dann.

Running totals and a live blog.


Election night party vote (98.5% counted):

PROJECTED
Party Votes % of Votes Electorate Seats List Seats Total seats
National Party 990,005 46.1 41 17 58
Labour Party 768,468 35.8 29 16 45
New Zealand First Party 161,622 7.5 9 9
Green Party 125,339 5.8 7 7
ACT New Zealand 10,832 0.5 1 1
The Opportunities Party (TOP) 47,509 2.2
Māori Party 23,227 1.1
Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party 5,804 0.3
Conservative 5,282 0.2
MANA 2,729 0.1
Ban1080 2,421 0.1
New Zealand People’s Party 1,613 0.1
United Future 1,461 0.1
NZ Outdoors Party 1,326 0.1
Democrats for Social Credit 723 0.0
Internet Party 463 0.0
Total 2,148,824 71 49 120

This excludes special votes. There will be several thousand of them, and will be included in final results on 7 October. Best guess is that National will drop a bit and will probably lose 1 seat to Labour or the Greens.

Peters spoke first tonight, he didn’t give anything away, saying he needed to talk the results over with his party board and his MPs.

Shaw spoke next and claimed to have a mandate with Labour and NZ First to form a government.

Ardern spoke like she had lost and said she would have to look properly at the results and have a few conversations.

English gave a victory speech. “In the next few days, we will be holding talks with NZ First and finding common ground”. But that depends on NZ First being willing.

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103 Comments

  1. Ray

     /  September 23, 2017

    We are off

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  2. Early results:
    National 45-46%
    Labour 36-37%
    NZ First 7%
    Greens 6%
    TOP 1.9%

    Greens and NZ First look safe. National are a bit short of a similar government to the current/last term.

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  3. Gezza

     /  September 23, 2017

    Nail biter!
    Does it matter, though?
    Really?
    As long as Rugby’s the Winner on The Night? 🏉

    One way or another, Government Departments will just get told:
    There’s the plan. Cost it. Do it.

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  4. Conspiratoor

     /  September 23, 2017

    There is a God in heaven. Hones gone

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    • Conspiratoor

       /  September 23, 2017

      it gets better …meturia too!

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      • Conspiratoor

         /  September 23, 2017

        The end of the maori party? Sorry G. Get the sack cloth out

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        • Gezza

           /  September 23, 2017

          Bastard!
          (No offence)

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        • Gezza

           /  September 23, 2017

          Wonder if Sir Alan’s up an acacia tree after a squirrel casserole, out back in the bush, trying to get a signal?
          Do they have acacia trees?
          Sir Gerald.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  September 23, 2017

            Lots of Acacia trees. Just settled in to watch the blood flow back home. Looks like Winston might be back on the list but heading to Cabinet.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  September 23, 2017

              Stuff is suggesting Nats could do a deal with Greens. That would really make a bad night for Winston and Labour.

            • Gezza

               /  September 23, 2017

              You owe me an uptick.
              If you’re a decent bloke.
              Gave you one.
              That’s how we roll.

              I was right about the acacia trees.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  September 23, 2017

              Wrong about the squirrel though. So lost that uptick unfortunately.

            • Conspiratoor

               /  September 23, 2017

              Ripping up the mou would make the greens look like dorks

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  September 23, 2017

              They are dorks. Why pretend otherwise? And they already ripped up the MOU.

            • Gezza

               /  September 23, 2017

              @ Al
              Fuk YOU then
              (No offence)

            • Gezza

               /  September 23, 2017

              Agree about the MOU ripup tho. Gave ya anutha uptick there.
              That’s how I roll.

            • Conspiratoor

               /  September 23, 2017

              Fonterra and the feds will be shitting themselves

      • Gezza

         /  September 23, 2017

        Settle down. You’ll wet yourself.
        Go The Fox!

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  5. The Maori Party is looking quite shaky, behind in both electorates they were hoping to win.

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    • Gezza

       /  September 23, 2017

      Christ! Don’t say that!

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      • Maggy Wassilieff

         /  September 23, 2017

        Oh dear.
        I gave my vote to Rihi Vercoe… although, I must admit, I never saw her over hereabouts.
        I support IwiRail… but looks like it will be the same as Kiwirail on the East Coast,NI.

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        • Gezza

           /  September 23, 2017

          I’m too wound up to eat, Dr Maggy! 😳
          I gotta headache tho. 🤕
          Maybe I should eat something?
          Should I should chuck a burger in the micro? 🤔

          I’ll chuck a burger in the micro 😐 👍🏼

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          • Maggy Wassilieff

             /  September 23, 2017

            Fluids, dear.
            Keep your fluids up.

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            • Gezza

               /  September 23, 2017

              Got Becks & Hollandia Premium.
              Hollandia’s 5%. Becks doesn’t say. Been all over the labelling, top etc. Just says safest not to drink it while pregnant.

              I’ll try the Hollandia.

            • Gezza

               /  September 23, 2017

              S’alright. Found it. 👍🏼
              Becks is 5% too. Bloody small writing. 1.3 standard drinks.
              It’s a bottle. I’ll have that. 👍🏼

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  September 23, 2017

      Looks like Maori are voting to be ignored by Labour again. I’d be sorry for the Maori Party if they hadn’t blocked RMA reform. So what is the future for the Labour leaders now?

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      • I think Ardern will keep leading, it would be ridiculous to roll her, but she has a lot of hard work to do for the next three years, probably in opposition.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  September 23, 2017

          Does she like hard work? Does Davis?

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          • Gezza

             /  September 23, 2017

            Ah … my bet is they’d need a bulldozer to dig her out of the leader’s job.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  September 23, 2017

            They’ve buried plenty of leaders with it before, G. But it will depend on whether the media turn on her and if she can keep the Loony Left from sabotaging her.

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            • Gezza

               /  September 23, 2017

              Al, it was a HUGE ask. She’s head & shoulders above any of them.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  September 23, 2017

              We’ll see. Turei haemorrhaged votes to her and Winston did too in the hope she was the new Messiah. Expect her support to ebb away back to them during the next term. Then the knives will be out for another ritual sacrifice of their leader.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  September 23, 2017

              A lot depends on Winston though. Will he retire?

            • Gezza

               /  September 23, 2017

              Another leader change before 2020 & they’re rooted.
              She’s tuff as, she’s articulate, she can think on her feet.
              Who else have they got?

      • Gezza

         /  September 23, 2017

        Maori Party need to become less staunch more strategic.
        Unless they just fold up their tent.

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        • If Labour don’t get into government Maori voters have stuffed up big time this election. Too besotted with Ardern.

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          • Conspiratoor

             /  September 23, 2017

            Yes, they are now outside the tent pissing in. So sad

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          • Gezza

             /  September 23, 2017

            Looks that way. Wouldn’t have hurt maybe to boot Black Power from the conference.

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          • Gezza

             /  September 23, 2017

            Also, Metz is Marama’s cousin, & whanaunga ruled on Maori tv with Marama.
            Maybe not the wisest approach.

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  6. artcroft

     /  September 23, 2017

    My prediction that Stsrdust would get there is now completely reliant on Winnie. 😕

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  7. Winston is just behind in Northland. It would probably be good for him if he lost, I doubt if he can run the party and run an electorate. And if he’s list only he could retire without a by-election.

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  8. Ray

     /  September 23, 2017

    Interesting with 40% of the vote counted Nat up .2% with Labour slipping a similar number.
    I would expect Labour to be climbing as the bigger polling places by now.
    Early days.

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    • Yes Nats are easing up and Labour are slipping on the party vote, making it hard for them. Still a lot of votes to go though.

      They have just spread by another 2 points.

      NAT 46.5%
      LAB 35.5%
      Remarkable for a fourth term attempt.

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  9. Frustrated by all the fancy websites, The best results are on the Electoral Commission website.

    Overall vote http://www.electionresults.govt.nz/
    Electorates http://www.electionresults.govt.nz/electorate-status.html

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  10. Ray

     /  September 23, 2017

    Yes, I am using that for numbers and the RNZ which a bit hokey and lacking razz a dazzle is delivering the goods

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  11. Alan Wilkinson

     /  September 23, 2017

    Looks as though O’Connor will win Ohariu by a small margin.

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  12. J Bloggs

     /  September 23, 2017

    One thing Kiwiblog and Standard commetators are united on – Gareth Morgan is a *expletive deleted*

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  13. Conspiratoor

     /  September 23, 2017

    Never thought I’d finish the night rooting for a gay weather man. Go you good thing!

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  14. Ray

     /  September 23, 2017

    Greens still sliding down at 80% counted 5.8 %

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  15. High Flying Duck

     /  September 23, 2017

    Well however this election finally plays out, I think the 2 major party leaders can hold their heads up. It has been a great redemption story for Bill English as leader, and a phenomenal rise for Jacinda to lift Labour from the doldrums.
    For the Nats to have held their vote this high after 3 terms is nothing short of miraculous.
    Next couple of days and the effect of the specials will be fascinating.

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    • David

       /  September 23, 2017

      Metiria Turei is the unsung hero in Labour’s resurgence, without her it would not be possible. I wonder what Jacinda paid her?

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      • Gezza

         /  September 23, 2017

        A compliment?

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        • David

           /  September 23, 2017

          Totally, Jacinda is far more Machiavellian than I expected, well played!

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          • Gezza

             /  September 23, 2017

            I think Jacinda realised Metiria was the Machiavelli.
            And when Metz blundered into her own miscalculated noose, Jacs just looked the other way.

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          • Gezza

             /  September 23, 2017

            You think Jacs set the noose David?

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            • David

               /  September 23, 2017

              Never underestimate how ruthless competing females can get…I can see the phone call now;

              “Metz, you could really connect with voters by opening up and showing them you lived the same lives they do.” “It will start a debate about fairness” “Reveal something your voters can really connect with”

            • Gezza

               /  September 24, 2017

              Nup. Sticking with my reckon

  16. Tipene

     /  September 23, 2017

    I’ve been saying or some time that MMP has been on life support.

    UFNZ: Gone.
    Maori Party: Gone.
    ACT: Survives by mouth to mouth from National.

    The default FPP campaign by the major parties has been successful against every party except NZ First – who now hold the balance of power (and who I finally ended up voting for). The flaw in the FPP plan is the cannibalization of minor parties by National has resulted in a dearth of coalition choices for same.

    I am picking Peters to hold Northland (it’s 40 votes or so either way right now as i write this).

    4th term for National – and they may choose to go as a minority Govt is they can’t stomach a NZ First coalition partner.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  September 23, 2017

      Not really. NZF caters for the cranky vote, Greens for the enviro/Lefty nutters leaving Labour for the takers and National for the givers. A well-functioning market.

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      • Patzcuaro

         /  September 23, 2017

        A little simplistic, National could be regarded as the me party and Labour as the us party which would make ACT the me me party.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  September 23, 2017

          Labour leaves everyone for dead as the me party, Patz. How many billion are they taking from you?

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          • Patzcuaro

             /  September 23, 2017

            Labour is the we, I know it doesn’t sound quite right, but they are for what is best for society whereas National is more what I can get out of it.

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            • Patzcuaro

               /  September 23, 2017

              What are you doing in Africa, is it for you or for them?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  September 23, 2017

              It is for me in the sense that my wife and I get our kicks from helping other people, Patz. But if you follow the money we have spent almost nothing on ourselves and a heap on them.

  17. A late swing against Peters in Northland after he nudged ahead for a bit. 429 behind now.

    Bishop ends up nearly 2,000 ahead in Hutt South.

    O’Connor looks like taking Ohariu, 686 ahead with nearly all counted (apart from specials).

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  18. Corky

     /  September 23, 2017

    Wow, just seen Labour HQ. Hardly a Maori in sight. They have learn’t from their last election loss and have had a clean out.

    I now hope for a change of government. James Shaw has called out Winston out.

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  19. Alan Wilkinson

     /  September 23, 2017

    Nats share is edging down as the big city electorates come in I guess. Down to 46.2%. Will definitely need Winston or the Greens. So no result tonight. Will have to wait for Winston’s wheeling and dealing.

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  20. Gezza

     /  September 23, 2017

    Never mind all this crap!
    Have some regard for poor bloody patu!

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  21. English is speaking like a winner. Ardern spoke like a loser. That doesn’t mean National will form the next government, but National are clear election day winners.

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    • robertguyton

       /  September 24, 2017

      Your ear is tin, Pete. Nats can’t govern (didn’t “win”) Jacinda and James broadcast the same message: we can negotiate a governing coalition. English had to plead the same (how embarrassing!! The National Party, pleading for Winston’s support. What a come-down. What an “over-the-barrel” position Bill English and The Mighty National Party find themselves in now! Poetry!)

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    • Blazer

       /  September 24, 2017

      ‘speaking’…you either win or lose,until a deal is done,we don’t know.

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