The irresponsibility of Gower and NZ First sources

My last post was on The responsibility of forming Government and shows that Winston Peters appears to be taking his responsibilities in playing a part in forming the next Government seriously, as he should do. The country depends on it, as does Peters’ reputation and legacy.

But sensationalist opinion writer Patrick Gower (and whoever in Newshub allow him top the 6 pm news billing) has chosen to promote his unsubstantiated assertions. He claims to have senior  sources in NZ First – also acting irresponsibility if Gower is not just making things up as Winston has claimed.

On election night peters warned his party – from Newsroom Winston Peters plots a path as kingmaker:

Perhaps with former colleague Richard Prosser’s recent outbursts on his mind, Peter also sent a stern warning to members of the party to stay in line during what could be sensitive negotiations.

“To all my colleagues out there watching tonight, please don’t circumvent or foreclose on the right of your party and your colleagues to collectively decide what we must do in the future.

“Don’t make comments that will embarrass the party, don’t make comments that mean the party’s democratic processes aren’t followed.”

Prosser was dumped down the NZ First list and missed the cut so is now an ex-MP, and has already been expressing some of his opinion to media openly.

Gower has led the Newshub 6 pm news for the last two nights citing senior NZ first sources but making a number of unsubstantiated claims. Notably the online Newshub items are labelled as ‘Opinion’.

And Winston is not happy, claiming they are lies.

First on Monday night: Patrick Gower: Meet the backroom operators wooing Winston Peters:

I’ve been talking to multiple and senior sources inside all the camps and have the lowdown.

Gower makes a number of claims including:

You might assume Steven Joyce would be there but you’d be wrong… Peters hates him – and Joyce knows it, so he has already stood aside.

Also on Monday in Patrick Gower: Revealed – Winston Peters claims first scalp from National

Winston Peters has claimed his first victim should he go into Government with National – Speaker of the House David Carter.

Peters despises Carter and it will be an unwritten or unspoken demand that he will have to leave the job should New Zealand First go with National.

That sounds like nonsense.

I don’t know whether Peters despises Carter or not, they certainly clashed in parliament frequently but that may be game playing or personal.

But claiming “Peters has claimed his first victim” is a ridiculous claim when followed by “it will be an unwritten or unspoken demand”.

Gower has asserted as a fact something he just assumes. He admits he has no evidence.

Then on Tuesday Patrick Gower: Winston Peters wants utu from Steven Joyce

As becomes clear, Gower hasn’t been told anything by Peters about what he wants. And Peters has accused Gower of lying and making things up.

OPINION: Winston Peters could be out for revenge against National over their attempts to take him down during the campaign.

Gower begins with “could be” – so he is assuming or guessing. It is his opinion.

A New Zealand First source has told Newshub Peters is particularly resentful towards Steven Joyce, whom he personally detests.

Peters believes Joyce orchestrated a four-pronged attack against him by National…

Gower has no direct evidence, he is quoting hearsay from someone he claims is from NZ First – someone with an apparent agenda.

Peters believes National dropped a scandal on him.

His pension over-payment was leaked to the media. It hit him hard but didn’t knock him down.

Now he wants utu – revenge.

Again this is hearsay and conjecture stated as fact. This is very poor from Newshub’s senior political reporter.

The Newshub tip-off

The tip was given to Newshub on the Friday six weeks out from the election just as National was undertaking its co-ordinated attack on Winston Peters.

It was an anonymous phone call, from a blocked number, from a man who knew lots of details.

It could have been a public servant.

But investigations by the Ministry of Social Development, Inland Revenue and Ministerial Services, which manages staff in the Beehive, have all failed to find the leaker.

That leaves a senior crew as suspects – two ministers, Anne Tolley and Paula Bennett, as well as the Prime Minister’s chief-of-staff Wayne Eagleson.

No it doesn’t just leave those three people. No one has been found and everyone has denied responsibility.

Failing to find leakers from MSD, IRD and Ministerial Services does not rule out everyone from those departments, it just means no one was identified as a leaker. A good leaker would know how to not leave any trace.

There is likely to be others associated with Tolley, Bennett and Eagleson who are possible leakers.

And while I think it’s unlikely the leak came from Peters or someone associated with him that can’t be ruled out.

There is talk that Winston Peters wants another scalp if he is to do business with National.

“There is talk” could be anyone guessing, as many are.

Paula Bennett has been upfront about the fact she won’t be Deputy Prime Minister any more.

Stated as ‘fact’ but evidence suggests differently.

MSN: Bennett, Davis would give up deputy roles

Current Deputy Prime Minister Paula Bennett revealed on Tuesday she’s “not too bothered” by the chance she might lose the job as part of the negotiations.

“I love what I do, I’d still be deputy leader of the party, that’s the main thing really so we’ll just sort of make our way through it,” she said.

It’s an obvious possibility but no more than that. Deals haven’t been discussed let alone decided. The same applies to Labour’s deputy:

Kelvin Davis, currently Labour leader Jacinda Ardern’s deputy, would become deputy prime minister in a Labour-led government – unless Mr Peters wanted it.

“If it has to be, it has to be,” he said.

Again only an obvious possibility.

Back to Gower:

The sources inside NZ First have directed me today to a number of speeches Winston made recently…

It looks like Gower is being played by someone and he is willingly playing along.

This is all a clear play by NZ First to get the message out there that it’s not a done deal with National, and they’re deliberately getting the message out to raise the stakes in the negotiations.

Not clear, and not clearly by ‘NZ First’. By an unnamed source or sources with unknown party associations, with Gower’s embellishments and opinion piled on top.

Tomorrow, we see the man himself. Winston Peters is set to front up at Parliament and all the political positioning will simply go next level.

An admission Gower has not even sought any comment from Peters, he is going completely by uncorroborated secret assertions.

And Peters has responded scathingly of Gower and Newshub. On Facebook last night:

Whatever Patrick Gower and the Newshub producers are on, they should get off it.

Their TV news broadcasts about New Zealand First the last two nights have been fiction, and grossly misleading. I will not be explaining what parts are fictional. Some of it is barefaced lies.

Newshub is claiming sources that don’t exist, and is merely toying with viewers and presenting make believe instead of facts. It’s the very worst form of journalism and Newshub is not the only one doing it – sad to say.

None of it will have any bearing on New Zealand First in the coming talks around the establishment of the next government.

“The very worst form of journalism” – Newshub, Gower, fed by someone with an agenda associated with NZ First.

Gower is on Newshub now. he says that Peters wants to be seen as inscrutable. He also says that Peters is in a terrible position, quite different to his news reports.

Gower is asked about his claims and he just talks vaguely about general things, no specifics, and just laughs off Winston’s indignation and claim of lies.

The media has a responsibility to hold politicians and parties to account.

They also have a responsibility to do this fairly and honestly, and to not act as the pawns of people with agendas.

So far Peters appears to have met his responsibilities. Not so apparently someone associated with NZ First.

This is poor and irresponsible of Gower and Newshub. Forming a Government is very important and a serious process, and deserves far better from media.

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49 Comments

  1. robertguyton

     /  27th September 2017

    Bennett says she’s “not to bothered” that she might miss out on being Deputy Prime Minister?
    That’s feeble!
    Not too bothered. If what she said is true, and chances are it’s not, her lack of ambition is revealing. Of course, if she wasn’t telling the truth, her lack of honesty is similarly disturbing.

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    • You may not have noticed Robert, but Paula Bennett has already been Deputy PM since December 2016, so she has achieved that ambition.

      It’s certainly a loftier position than any Green Party MP has ever achieved, or is likely to achieve in the foreseeable future 😀

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    • Trevors_elbow

       /  27th September 2017

      Supertramp soundtrack continues

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    • High Flying Duck

       /  27th September 2017

      Kelvin Davis has said the same thing…you are truly delusional.

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  2. robertguyton

     /  27th September 2017

    So, Bennett doesn’t care much for the role? She’s not too bothered if she doesn’t keep it? Flake. Like Key. He skived off when it suited him.

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    • Are you still consumed by your hatred of Sir John Key Robert? It’s time you got over it.

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      • robertguyton

         /  27th September 2017

        Don’t hate him, never rated him. He’s yesterday’s man in any case. Like a puff of flatulence, gone with the wind.

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    • Deputy PM is a nothing role – I can see why she isn’t fussed either way.

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      • robertguyton

         /  27th September 2017

        So it won’t be of any value in bringing Peters aboard? Okay. I guess he’ll want Bill’s spot then. Cheers, PDB.

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        • Purely a title where you get to play acting PM once in a while – Winston would love it.

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    • Trevors_elbow

       /  27th September 2017

      Flake… 🤣🤣🤣

      How appropriate you use that word….

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  3. Audrey Young versus Gower: Time to move on from fake news over who Winston Peters will choose

    Good on Winston Peters for calling out some of the drivel that has been passing as news over the past few days.

    The notion that Peters would be seeking revenge on National for regaining the Northland seat is ridiculous.

    Peters may have plenty of reasons for seeking revenge – but him losing Northland is not one of them.

    The notion that Bill English exhorting voters to “cut out the middle man”[Peters] and vote for National was some kind of dastardly conspiracy against New Zealand First is laughable. It’s called an election.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11926822

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  4. And while I think it’s unlikely the leak came from Peters or someone associated with him that can’t be ruled out.

    I agree Pete; it can’t be ruled out, yet in many ways it makes perfect sense.

    All the air had been sucked out of NZF’s campaign by Jacindamania. Peters, as we have seen over the years, relies on the media to report his every utterance.

    It was the weekend of National’s campaign launch too, so what better to get some attention than drop a “scandal” that had already been remedied, knowing that because Peters was involved, it would be widely reported. When it emerged that Ministers had been briefed under the “no surprises” policy, Peters had the perfect situation to allege, without evidence, that National had leaked.

    Fanciful? No more or less fanciful than many of the issues Peters has plied to the media over the years including Cook Strait Ferry bottoms, Maori loans and Chinese people building rows of ostentatious houses.

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  5. George

     /  27th September 2017

    The greens could stop the Peters BS by going with National and they’d actually have some influence

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    • robertguyton

       /  27th September 2017

      Waiting for the extra Green seat from special votes, and another for Labour, lifting the Left’s seat-count in Parliament and Winston’s decision to go Left – a Labour/Green/NZF Government!
      Marvelous!

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      • Marvelous! – For National in the long term.

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        • robertguyton

           /  27th September 2017

          Yeah, PDB – National should go into Opposition. That’s the strategy. Aye!

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          • Simply put – being in opposition for three years is likely to be better than being in govt with Winston for three years.

            Ardern clearly is not yet ready to be PM and being in govt with Winston could mean she only gets 3 crappy. frustrating years in the job. If she missed out this time I could see her being PM for the following 2-3 terms.

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            • robertguyton

               /  27th September 2017

              The Green/NZF/Labour Government will be a huge success!
              Your “simple” opinion is completely wrong and the result of insecurity.
              Relax, PDB. You’re going to enjoy the next 9 years. For you, it’ll be a prolonged revelation, a road to Damascus experience, a holiday from your flinty right-wing world. Jacinda – feel the quality, enjoy the experience and remember, if you don’t eat your greens, you won’t get any pudding!

            • Need to try harder Robert – your attempts at baiting are too obvious – you are not in Blazer’s league.

              Let your posts stand as a true representation of what very little remains of the Green party after its more principled supporters left it after the Turei dishonesty (along with two of its more environmentally focused MP’s).

            • robertguyton

               /  27th September 2017

              I won’t try harder, PDB – no point in putting effort into commenting when all I get back is your shallow splish-splash. Mind you, your pompous declaration, “Let your posts stand…” was worth waiting for 🙂

  6. duperez

     /  27th September 2017

    Fanciful is the stuff of politics and especially elections. It is reasonable that Peters indulges as much as he fancies.

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  7. Gowers first ‘scoop’ included Parker, King and possibly Cullen leading Labour’s negotiations.

    RNZ yesterday: “Labour Leader Jacinda Ardern announced this afternoon she and deputy Kelvin Davis would head the Labour Party’s coalition negotiating team.”

    All his ‘inside scoops’ are nonsense.

    As you mention PG the MSM are also being dishonest in saying that public servants have been cleared in the leaking thus insinuating that it must have been one of the National people that did so. All that was announced by the department was that all the people that had access to the file had a legitimate reason to do so which is not to say those people didn’t leak it, gossiped to someone else about it, or deliberately gave the details to someone else in order to leak it.

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    • robertguyton

       /  27th September 2017

      Leaking private details and invented accusations?
      National has form, form, form.
      Why wouldn’t Winston deduce it was them? They’ve got, well, FORM.

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      • The public service is full of left-wingers – chances are it was a Greeny supporter wanting to point out Winston’s taxpayer rort hypocrisy in direct contrast to Turei’s taxpayer-rorting which was the big story at the time.

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        • Blazer

           /  27th September 2017

          notorious,defiant leaker Paula Bennett is hardly a left wing …sympathiser.

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        • robertguyton

           /  27th September 2017

          “chances are” – PDB goes all fantastical in the face of the blindingly obvious.
          Who’s got form, PDB? FORM.
          “I do not believe I have breached privacy.” said Bennett.
          Asked if she would do the same thing again, Bennett said “it would depend on the circumstances”.
          IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES!
          Circumstances like…losing an election, Paula?

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          • The Greens ran a massive nationwide defacing campaign of National billboards last election straight out of Russ Normans office – sounds like form to me.

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  27th September 2017

        It was you going on about how accurate Roy Morgan polls were wasn’t it. Turns out they were (again) one of the worst, with Colmar Brunton and Reid Research the best.

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        • Colmar Brunton don’t deserve to be that high – those two polls showing Labour ahead were highly suspicious considering just prior to election day they suddenly produced a poll that tied in closely to what Newshub was showing. Those two original polls were both way outside the margins of error so something was going on.

          Was it a case of posting some polls in the hope that public opinion would be shaped by them and eventually the Labour result would match it and then when it didn’t work they did an ‘about turn’ by producing a real poll at the very last to save face?

          Newroom are a disgrace, a pro-left-wing media organisation publishing false polls showing Labour way ahead and National as low as 30% from memory?

          The poll-of-polls were thrown out by Colmar Brunton’s/Roy Morgan’s dodgy polls.

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          • High Flying Duck

             /  27th September 2017

            Newsroom were very agenda driven and their polls seemed to correlate to their worldview rather than reality.
            I agree CB seemed off, but they are conducted using very consistent methods and I cannot see them jeopardizing their reputation by doing anything deliberately dodgy. Perhaps they need to update their methodology, or perhaps there was a very late swing, although the second to last CB was way off.
            It would be interesting to see how the internal UMR and Curia polls compared.

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            • We only seemed to get leaks of UMR polls when Labour wanted to show internal polling was higher than public – the fact they didn’t announce anything for a long period during those high Colmar polls suggests internal polling had them well below what was showing on TV1.

          • Blazer

             /  27th September 2017

            the polls were surprisingly accurate imo.The change was due to the concerted attack strategy ,based on lies, the Natz ran with…it worked,Crosby is a genius.The Tories were so enamoured they..knighted him.

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  8. Zedd

     /  27th September 2017

    When I lived in Aust.; I remember an ex-kiwi Journo called Derryn Hinch (aka ‘the human headline’). A TV comedian used to do a take off character called ‘Darren HUNCH’ whose catch-cry was ‘Ive got a hunch !’

    Gower is starting to sound a bit similar; both ‘mr Hunch’ & ‘the human headline’ 😀

    GET RID of him; TV3….. its called ‘Disinformation’

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    • Gezza

       /  27th September 2017

      He’s a moron!

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      • Gezza

         /  27th September 2017

        Christ! I’m getting emails from morons all over the place already claiming I’ve just denigrated them !! 😮

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      • pickled possum

         /  27th September 2017

        Heya Gezz, Patrick Gower is so excitable when delivering
        a reconstructed myth of the day.
        I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes vitamins to keep his
        adrenaline flowing.
        I can’t watch or listen to him cos unfortunately he has a face only a
        mother could love esp when trying to keep his glee under control
        His excitable droning forked speech just makes my ears bleed.
        So writing him out of my *go to* journalist is easy peasy.
        As soon as he appears on any device I am accessing
        its a quick change the channel.
        Nothing he has to say interests me.
        He Will be pushing jelly up hill to stay relevant after this last saga.
        Where are NZ best political Commentators?
        Surely there some savvy On To It people around.
        Somewhere.
        howz nga manu?

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        • Gezza

           /  27th September 2017

          Hiya Poss
          Prettygirl’s up the duff & I reckon Bluebelle will be too the way those other two are carrying on. Haven’t seen or heard Jojo last 2 days hope she’s ok. All 3 Pooks are hopping over the fence & trimming my lawn lately, so no one’s home with Jojo.

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  9. Kitty Catkin

     /  27th September 2017

    I have met Patrick Sour a few times (pause for sympathetic remarks) and he comes across as being so far up himself that every time he farts he parts his hair. He’s even worse in the flesh than on the screen, believe it or not-really objectionable & know-all. Fool that I was, I could have accidentally bumped into him when he was standing on a chair to make a broadcast and knocked him off it….but didn’t. If it had been a live broadcast, I would have.

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    • Gezza

       /  27th September 2017

      (pause for sympathetic remarks)
      Very sorry to hear you were forced to endure such horrific trauma, madam. It sounds like the sort of thing one can never get over completely. 🌹
      Sir Gerald.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  27th September 2017

        No, no, it was horrible. (shudders at memories of these terrible events)

        He has the oddest teef, they look like false fingernails, if you see what I mean-they are very obvious veneers, one can see the joins. On his salary, I would have thought that he would have the best.

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        • Gezza

           /  27th September 2017

          How ghastly! 😖
          Sir Gerald.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  27th September 2017

            Even ghastlier that I didn’t prod him from behind and make him fall off the chair-it was an upholstered one, so he was rather wobbly.

            It’s really diffy not to stare at those odd toothy-pegs. He can’t help having badly shaped ones-mine will never be used for any toothpaste ad-but why draw attention to them with those stuck-on veneers ?

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