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  1. Gezza

     /  October 1, 2017

    “Ramallah, occupied West Bank – Hassan Ankush leaned on his cane as he limped through the charred rubble of the home he lived in for four decades in the village of Deir Abu Mashaal.

    “Killing my son was not enough for the Israelis,” he told Al Jazeera. “They had to come and destroy my home, too.”

    Like other Palestinian families whose relatives committed attacks or alleged attacks against Israelis, Ankush is not accused of any wrongdoing. He is among the latest victims of Israel’s widely condemned policy of punishing families of Palestinian assailants by demolishing their homes.

    According to Israeli rights group B’Tselem, thousands of Palestinians have been displaced by home demolitions. The Israeli government claims the goal is deterrence, but B’Tselem spokesman Amit Gilutz describes it as a form of “collective punishment” and a blatant violation of international law.”

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/09/injustice-life-israeli-demolitions-170930110954152.html

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  October 1, 2017

      Hard to have sympathy for families that produce terrorists though, G.

      • Patzcuaro

         /  October 1, 2017

        Deuteronomy 24:16
        King James Bible
        The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  October 1, 2017

          They are not being put to death, Patz.

          • Patzcuaro

             /  October 1, 2017

            Yes I appreciate that but families are being punished for the actions of one of the family what has the 11 year old sister done to want losing her family home.

            It seems a very short sighted policy.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 1, 2017

              The families broken by terrorism are equally innocent and suffer more and for longer. In any war the innocent suffer with the guilty and this is war. Families suffer when criminals are punished too. Is it disproportionate or ineffectual? That seems to be the real issue.

            • Patzcuaro

               /  October 1, 2017

              @Alan it is all very primitive very much eye for an eye, I can’t see it solving much just entrenching prejudice

      • Gezza

         /  October 1, 2017

        Hard to understand a policy that seems tailor-made to produce more, Sir Alan?
        The Israelis picked this idea up off the British, who used to blow up the houses of Palestinian resistance fighters. As a deterrent it’s obviously tits on a bull – so maybe it’s just viciousness?

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  October 1, 2017

          Hard to understand and deal with terrorists who think paradise is full of virgins awaiting them, Sir Gerald.

          As a deterrent it’s obviously tits on a bull
          Evidence?

          A January 2015 efficacy study by Benmelech, Berrebi and Klor distinguishes between “punitive demolitions”, in which homes belonging to the families of terror operatives are demolished, and “precautionary demolitions”, such as the demolition of a house well-positioned for use by Palestinian snipers. Their results, which The New Republic calls “politically explosive” indicate that “precautionary demolitions” have caused suicide attacks to increase, a “48.7 percent increase in the number of suicide terrorists from an average district,” while in the months immediately following a demolition, punitive demolitions caused terror attacks to decline by between 11.7 and 14.9 percent.[13][24] However, Klor later described the effect of punitive demolitions as “small, localized and diminish[ing] over time” and suggested that the real reason they were carried out was “to placate the Israeli public”.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_demolition_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict

          • Gezza

             /  October 1, 2017

            Don’t get me started Sir Alan. Today I am at peace with creation & I want it to stay that way.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 1, 2017

              It’s a wild day up here, Sir Gerald. The weather is practising for its next onslaught on Wellington.

            • Gezza

               /  October 1, 2017

              Stunner day here yesterday Sir Alan. Changeable today. Bit of a breeze when I was out on the bullshit block wall at the top of the parenga with my acoustic classical, serenading the waterfowl a few minutes ago. One moment, I shall test the wind direction.

            • Gezza

               /  October 1, 2017

              Hmm. Yes. The zephyrs do seem to be of a Norwesterly persuasion.
              I shall examine to stuff.co weather forecast.

            • Gezza

               /  October 1, 2017

              Max: 14°C
              Min: 8°C
              (Latest reading)

              Wind: 19 km/hr.
              Rain Today: 0.0
              Humidity: 66%
              Updated: 01/10 12:10

              Today’s Forecast
              Often cloudy. Few showers from afternoon. Northwest turns southerly.

              Mon’s Forecast
              Fine spells. Strong northerlies, turning southerly afternoon.

            • Gezza

               /  October 1, 2017

              Norwesters thru the strait are the prevailing winds here I think. Certainly from Sep thru New Year. Those & grey skies. Little flurry of rain just now.
              I can never figure out what this is supposed to tell us in the the stuff.co weather forecast:
              Rain Today:

              I can never figure out what it’s supposed to tell us. The today FC even says a few showers. Emailed them once & asked what it was for. Got the same result as asking a certain non-voting puss puss a question.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 1, 2017

              http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11928318

              A bit cautious on hanging out the laundry here at present.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 1, 2017

              Alternated sunny blowing a gale and rainy blowing a gale all day. Laudry done and dusted between showers so time to put feet up for a cuppa and see what mischief Sir Gerald’s been up to.

            • Gezza

               /  October 1, 2017

              Been the soul of discretion & decorum, as always, Sir Alan.
              Sir Gerald.

            • Gezza

               /  October 1, 2017

              Il pleut bloody beaucoup ici a ce moment tho.
              1814 heures

          • Patzcuaro

             /  October 1, 2017

            Well now that Hefner is in paradise that might change.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 1, 2017

              Dunno if the paradise pharmaceutical services are equipped for that, Patz?

            • Conspiratoor

               /  October 1, 2017

              It seems the world is divided on whether his new paradise is better than the old

      • Blazer

         /  October 1, 2017

        what about families that produce …criminals in general o righteous…one?

        • Gezza

           /  October 1, 2017

          Don’t start! You know what it’ll get like! Eventually it’ll just go on for pages all down the right hand side.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  October 1, 2017

          What would you think, B? My view would be that their lives will probably be made sufficiently miserable by the continued existence of their criminal offspring and karma should be left to do its inevitable work on them.

          • Blazer

             /  October 1, 2017

            so much for the much vaunted…personal responsibility…eh.In your world you are your brothers keeper.Strange and disturbing values you have.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 1, 2017

              I take that as a compliment coming from you, B.

            • Blazer

               /  October 1, 2017

              plenty more…’compliments’…where that came from.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 1, 2017

              I know. Have you thought of getting help?

            • Gezza

               /  October 1, 2017

              Never mind. I was too late. It’s started.

  2. Gezza

     /  October 1, 2017

    Interesting article
    “The five mistakes we make about Kim Jong-un and North Korea”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11928310

    It’s bullshit of course. Somebody needs to take that asshole Kim Jong Un out – & the sooner the better. Just not that Trump idiot.

    • Blazer

       /  October 1, 2017

      Sabre rattling is not unique to him.The U.S is an advocate of ‘gunboat diplomacy’ all over the world .It has also been known to threaten countries with being…’bombed back to the stone age’…throw in some Agent Orange and Napalm,and ask yourself about mans..inhumamity..to ..man.

      • Gezza

         /  October 1, 2017

        Well, let’s put it this way. I don’t think you’d like to live under Un’s not-so-benevolent governance & be posting the sorts of criticisms of his shortcomings that you can of the government’s here?

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  October 1, 2017

          I suspect whether he’d like to live would very quickly become immaterial, Sir Gerald.

        • Blazer

           /  October 1, 2017

          .Korea was occupied by the Japs and then divided after WW2 by the victorious Russians and Americans.The Cold War and the clash of ideologies was the dominating influence .That influence affected the people of Vietnam,Cuba as well as Korea .So security and just feeding themselves have been the main concerns of the North.Mistrust of their neighbours and a history of famine and instability have lead to their isolationist policies and military posturing.

        • Blazer

           /  October 1, 2017

          they do share this with..NZ…’ Security establishments employ mass surveillance, tightly monitoring cellular and digital communications. The MPS, State Security and the police allegedly conduct real-time monitoring of text messages, online data transfer, monitor phone calls and automatically transcribe recorded conversations. ‘
          Key admired them ,so much…he copied ..them.

          • Gezza

             /  October 1, 2017

            I doubt the North Koreans were his inspiration tbh, Blazer.
            You sure you’re not getting a bit carried away with that one?

            • Blazer

               /  October 1, 2017

              no argument that the same mass surveillance exists.Don’t know much about Nth Korea,but do many?Mainly mentioned by the right along with Venezuela as examples of failed socialism.Interesting to learn the background as to how it developed into a 2 state country..the Communist/Capitalist divide like East and West Germany.Ref to Key is TIC.

            • Gezza

               /  October 1, 2017

              I understand how it came about, & why it wanrs to defend itself, like Iran, from a country that relentkessky threatens to attack it. But I also know enuf to know its an economic disaster & the latest sanctions by China will cripple it. The regime – all 3 of them, butvespecially the last two are truly appalling individuals & the society is sick from the total absurd worship of these murderous, torturing maniacs. You know that poor US kid ‘rescued’ from their clutches was systematically tortured – brain damaged – to slow death by those pricks, don’t you?

            • Gezza

               /  October 1, 2017

              Jesus! 😡
              My proof- reading is sht today. Do ya best.

            • Gezza

               /  October 1, 2017

              PS: WTF is TIC?

            • Blazer

               /  October 1, 2017

              this U.S kid story…any link?Sounds like something from…Gitmo.TIC..is tongue in cheek.

            • Gezza

               /  October 1, 2017

              TIC. Got it. Thanks for that.
              US Kid thing was on Aljaz tv last night. Citing US medical team who say the state there is no sign of any whatever it was ludicrous claim they made about some disease or illness he succumbed to. Probably correct. Just as well Gareth never stole a propaganda poster. They probably gave him one since he looked like a useful idiot?

        • Conspiratoor

           /  October 1, 2017

          I could handle a short stay G. Been following Gareth’s musings on his trip with interest. He rode in from Russia and took the mountain road. Fully escorted and friendly smiling locals. No chance of being mugged. I’d have to ditch the Harley though and the missus would have to ride solo.

          The trick is to get in and out before the bombs start falling

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  October 1, 2017

            Yes, and not to pinch any posters as well as hope Kim doesn’t need another hostage.

            • Gezza

               /  October 1, 2017

              See above. They probably gave him dozens for the reason I explain.