Confused messages from Peters

I get why Winston Peters doesn’t want to start coalition negotiations until the final results are known, that makes sense. But Peters is sending out some confused messages.

From Stuff: NZ First talks with National, Labour begin

Peters has also said there’s no guarantee the result of the special votes will even be known on Saturday, which could further delay negotiations…

“They were running out of ballot papers on election day and a whole lot of people have been misinformed about their rights and I want to know that they are capable of completing the count properly by 2pm on Saturday.”

Is he just waffling aimlessly, or is he indicating a possibility he won’t accept the final result tomorrow?

A spokeswoman for the Electoral Commission said they were well on track to meet the Saturday deadline.

That is the deadline for the final results, but they could be subject to judicial review.

…though it wouldn’t change his self-imposed deadline of October 12 for making a decision.

That suggests Peters will still accept the results tomorrow. But his deadline of 12 October is questionable – negotiations are not all about him.

Jacinda Ardern says it’s “absolutely possible” they can do a deal in five days.

Bill English has said that five days for negotiating and organising the structure of a new government is very tight. He’s right.

There have been some suggestions that Peters may have already made up his mind what he will do.

But if he decides to go with National it still depends on what National will agree to how they need to negotiate and decide.

If Peters decides to go with Labour and the Greens that could take even longer. NZ First will negotiate with Labour, and then either NZ First or Labour or both will need to negotiate with the Greens. And the Greens will then need tome to consult with their membership before making any decision.

Unless a back room deal has already been made then I wouldn’t bank on a final decision by next Thursday.


  1. George

     /  October 6, 2017

    Red phone blue phone repeating scenario.
    The last actions of a failed megalomaniac

  2. David

     /  October 6, 2017

    God I hope he goes with Jacinda and James, endless fun and entertainment

  3. So-called back room deals actually make a lot of sense. The way the media have been hounding Peters with inane and stupid questions, and the commentators have been flying highly improbable kites in the interest of clicks, they really seem to think negotiations should be held in public.
    As an easy comparison, have you ever been that transparent when buying or selling a house? Not on your life!

    • inane
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  4. Gezza

     /  October 6, 2017

    Is he just waffling aimlessly, or is he indicating a possibility he won’t accept the final result tomorrow?

    That’s just typical Winston. Making sure as much attention he can get is focussed on him as long and as often as possible.

  5. Zedd

     /  October 6, 2017

    Its called ‘keep your cards close to your chest, keep them guessing.. until you are ready to play the hand !’ Winston is the ‘master’ of this.. 🙂

  6. David

     /  October 6, 2017

    It pains me to say but Winston is doing exactly the right thing but we also suffer the global problem of idiot journalists making stuff up. The mother in law was over bemoaning Winston holding the country to ransom but I did point out how would you feel if you were one of the 15% of special voters and a deal was done before your vote was counted..disenfranchised perhaps.

  7. David

     /  October 6, 2017

    I do however prefer the german approach where the party with the most votes gets to lead the formation of the government unlike here where Mr 7% decides who will govern which is arse about face.

    • Blazer

       /  October 6, 2017

      MMP has always worked this way and it does not necessarily follow that NZF must decide the Govt.

    • Chuck Bird

       /  October 6, 2017

      How about Mr 0.5% getting to decide the Govt?

      National gamed the system so why is it so wrong when NZF use the system that was voted for again in 2011? Winston got on with Bolger. Let us see how things turn out before we talk about changing the system.

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