Media watch – Thursday

12 October 2017

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  1. pickled possum

     /  October 12, 2017

    NZ Bakeries are considering buying french butter as it will be cheaper with travel etc than buying our own. WTF is going on. Yes I understand buying the cheapest helps with keeping the prices down and all that but Really buying off France.

    Demand for butter has blown up worldwide after scientists debunked research linking animal fats with heart disease, ASB economist Nathan Penny recently told RNZ.
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/country/341371/high-prices-push-bakers-to-use-french-butter

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  October 12, 2017

      EU butter mountain subsidies is what is going on. Pocket handkerchief farms with six cows and an enormous tractor.

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  2. phantom snowflake

     /  October 12, 2017

    It’s surprising how much local, New Zealand news I find on The Guardian. On the surface, this one’s a shocker: Immigration New Zealand planning to deport a severely intellectually disabled man, supposedly because of high costs to our health system although apparently all his care is provided by his family.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/11/new-zealand-deport-disabled-man-fiji

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  October 12, 2017

      Is it surprising? Apparently the Lefty Guardian campaigned hard for Jacinda and may have contributed to the rise in special votes. You’ll probably find that slant in most of its NZ news.

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      • phantom snowflake

         /  October 12, 2017

        It’s disappointing that you, despite your great intelligence, so often opt for mindlessly slagging off “The Left”. No attempt to engage with the story above. Sad.

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        • High Flying Duck

           /  October 12, 2017

          To be fair, the article uses the situation as a direct hit piece on National:

          “McClymont said the government’s refusal to grant residency to applicants on humanitarian or compassionate health grounds had become increasingly common under the incumbent government, and Narayan’s only hope now is if a Labour-led government emerges from ongoing coalition talks and takes a kinder view of his application to remain in the country.”

          This comment ignores the fact National have been very open to immigration and immigrants in general, whereas Labour (and NZF) have not.

          It is a sad case any way you look at it, but Immigration are in a very difficult position with many cases it deals with. They have to be careful to be consistent and to not set precedents. Sad story all round.

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      • duperez

         /  October 12, 2017

        “Apparently the Lefty Guardian campaigned hard for Jacinda”? Get a grip.

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  3. Corky

     /  October 12, 2017

    Mikey and The Whaler are double team tagging ( not literally)..

    Love some of their quotes:

    1-‘Stupid people abound, look at the surge for Labour over a set of teeth.’

    2-‘There was a radio ad for Burger King – it had the sound of sizzling bacon and said “Bacon … The best sound in the world”. The dullard who wrote in whingeing said vegans would find it offensive.’

    Great stuff.

    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/10/mike-hosking-sick-dullards-whingers-time-wasters/

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    • sorethumb

       /  October 12, 2017

      The BSA are as biased as hell. They are elitist. But Hosking is an oaf. He described high house prices as a sign of success and comimng into Queenstown he raves about it. “Its our biggest pie” and “we aren’t doing anything wrong”.Ignoring the tiny wages in the sector.

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  4. sorethumb

     /  October 12, 2017

    Spoonley Own Goal

    Spoonley
    And, I would point your listeners to Jody vances Hill Billy Elergy or Arlie Hochschild’s Strangers in Their Own Land. Because what they have documented is how rust-belt or red state Americans have become more and more concerned about what some people call the line jumpers. Or the que jumpers. The people who come in from overseas the refugees or perhaps for afirmative action for Afro Americans or women. Who are jumping into the queue ahead of them and getting to the American dream faster than they are. And so they are feeling quite left out, and I think any society which is facing quite significant immigration faces that possibility. Part of the community either for cultural or economic reasons might think that people who are coming in are taking something from them. They’re not adding something to the country they are taking something away.
    Ryan
    It doesn’t have to be accurate. It just has to be strongley felt.
    Spoonley
    No. And what vis interesting (it occurs in this country) when you look at the number of people who migrate to a country and you ask people how many are have migrated, almost inevitably the estimations are much higher.
    So in the UK at the moment people will over estimate overestimate the Muslim population by 15 times. So it’s a perception.
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2018617301/the-changing-face-of-new-zealand
    Britons overstate the proportion of Muslims in their country by a factor of four, according to a new survey by Ipsos Mori that reveals public understanding of the numbers behind the daily news in 14 countries.
    https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/oct/29/todays-key-fact-you-are-probably-wrong-about-almost-everything

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  5. sorethumb

     /  October 12, 2017

    Spoonley
    and the context is that we are growing at 2.1% which is high. If you nlook at the numbers of Asians they are growing at 3.5% , So tha’s why the’re contributing.Pakeha are growing at less than .5%
    So that’s why we are seeing this diversification.

    Ryan
    and it’s also in some ways the argument for immigration isn’t it
    Spoonley
    Hmm
    because in some ways your gonna need taxpayers, especially as that baby boomer demographic retires. We know there are some big issues coming up there.
    ………….
    This one has been debunked so many times it’s not funny
    UN
    Australian Productivity Commission
    and Dr Natalie Jackson has an on-line document
    http://www.waikato.ac.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0009/189459/Natalie-Jackson_busting-the-growth-for-it-myth.pdf

    He made the same claim on Nigel Latta’s New New zealand and Jim Bolger made it on Noelle McCarthy’s Touch of Heaven, These people appear to be willfully ignorant/deliberately defrauding the public?

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