Winston Peters’ announcement – Labour

THE ANNOUNCEMENT:


Going with Labour (presumably if Greens support the arrangement).

Peters says that the Greens aren’t his problem and he can’t give an an answer regarding them. He says that’s up to Labour.

So a lot now depends on what the Greens decide, unless it is a pre-arranged rubber stamp.

He says he has been offered the deputy prime ministership and other portfolios but not finance.

He says that the Prime Minister will announce polices and portfolios.

He says that NZ First has a coalition agreement with Labour, and Labour have a confidence and supply agreement with Greens. The latter hasn’t been officially confirmed yet.

He says that the majority of voters wanted the change that he intends to deliver – but that’s obviously unsubstantiated.

Peters said the decision was taken 15 minutes before he came over to make the announcement – it’s hard to believe that, but if it’s true it’s nuts that he didn’t know which way he would go until then, and makes a nonsense of his claims it was a consensus in the party. They can’t all have made the decision 15 minutes ago.

He says he didn’t advise Jacinda Ardern before making the announcement. Also hard to believe.

Bizarre comments when the Green decision was put to him. He says that Labour already have an agreement with the Greens.

Peters hasn’t told Ardern yet, and neither has he said anything to Bill English about his decision. They found out watching his media conference.


EARLIER:

It has sounded chaotic over the last hour or so at Parliament as an apparent leak or two and some scant evidence got journalists excited, and speculation spiked again.

It sounds like National wouldn’t give in to last minute demands and Labour has got the nod, with Greens ready to go to teleconference at 7 pm.

From Stuff Live:

Winston Peters is about to talk to his caucus – we are expecting a short meeting then he will come down from his office to talk to reporters.

Speculation is mounting that Winston Peters will time his announcement to coincide with the 6pm TV news bulletins.

Newshub are live streaming here.

Jacinda Ardern will be holding a press conference right after Peters’ announcement “either way,” in the words of her press sec.

FULL SPEECH: The moment Winston Peters reveals why he’s chosen Labour – and what he thinks of Jacinda Ardern

Winston Peters speech in the Beehive, where he announces the new NZ Government.

 

127 Comments

  1. PDB

     /  October 19, 2017

    Winston 90% to go with Labour – thank goodness for that!

    Blogging heaven I’d imagine for the next three years.

  2. Blazer

     /  October 19, 2017

    and the guessing…goes ..on.

    • Gezza

       /  October 19, 2017

      Not here. I’ve taken one punt & left it at that.
      Mind you, the last one was off by a bit.

  3. Alan Wilkinson

     /  October 19, 2017

    Farcical now. Hope he goes with Labour after all this nonsense. Shows what they’re in for.

    • PDB

       /  October 19, 2017

      Oct 19, 2017 6:26 PM
      Stuff Editors

      Peters has just put out a statement saying he will make an announcement shortly.

      • Gezza

         /  October 19, 2017

        I gather it would be difficult for him to do it any other way. How tall is he?

  4. PDB

     /  October 19, 2017

    Ardern to speak to press after Winston does his thing………..new PM?

  5. Conspiratoor

     /  October 19, 2017

    Bill’s chinese handlers have delivered a stern message. Local politics must not be allowed to interfere with the master plan. Do not disappoint…

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  October 19, 2017

      How embarrassing to have your Government announced by a 7% extortionist.

      • Conspiratoor

         /  October 19, 2017

        To you or I perhaps. But they are politicians Al …they have no shame

      • Call me stupid, but can someone explain to me why we went to all the expense and trouble of having an election?

      • robertguyton

         /  October 19, 2017

        Cheers, Alan – go hard!

    • Gezza

       /  October 19, 2017

      Let’s just keep things seemly with the use of the old upper & lower case please.

  6. I thought they were yet to decide.

  7. PDB

     /  October 19, 2017

    First official photo of the new govt released;

    • Blazer

       /  October 19, 2017

      give us an O for oresome.National blew an unassailable..lead..even the lies backfired.Outski.

      • PDB

         /  October 19, 2017

        In fact National ran a great campaign, held their own support for 4 elections in a row, beat off MSM driven ‘Jacindamania’ and didn’t sell out to Peters – a great day all around I’d say!

        • Blazer

           /  October 19, 2017

          sell out to Peters!Thats called ..saving face…in case you didn’t…know.

  8. artcroft

     /  October 19, 2017

    He hasn’t announced anything yet and already I’m disappointed.

  9. PDB

     /  October 19, 2017

    Awesome!!!

    • Gezza

       /  October 19, 2017

      I like you, but I wouldn’t agree you’re that 😳

    • PDB

       /  October 19, 2017

      To add the Greens have been totally shafted – Winston says he only will deal with Labour and the Greens will have to swallow a very large rat (delivered by Labour).

      • PDB

         /  October 19, 2017

        Oct 19, 2017 6:59 PM
        Stuff Editors

        Peters says Ardern exhibited enormous talent on the campaign trail. He did not mention the Green Party at all when announcing the coalition.

        • Blazer

           /  October 19, 2017

          so what.

          • PDB

             /  October 19, 2017

            I agree- like you the Greens are totally irrelevant.

            • Blazer

               /  October 19, 2017

              you are as relevant as the ..blues.

            • Blazer

               /  October 19, 2017

            • patupaiarehe

               /  October 19, 2017

              This version is even better, Blazer…

              This is a good result, IMHO. Labour have a few good ideas, and a few silly ones, which NZF will ‘pull up the handbrake’ on…

    • Gezza

       /  October 19, 2017

      Oh! He’s gone with Labour! Deputy PM.

      Mikey says no confirmation Greens have signed off, though … lotsa detail needed yet re no of Cabinet Ministers etc, Corin is guessing maybe four.

      Woohoo. Gonna be some fun now! 😀 🤗

      The thin lady must be gonna sing soon? Corin says she’ll probably he holding a press conference tonight.
      1903 hours

  10. artcroft

     /  October 19, 2017

    Wow Winnie reckons the economy will tank shortly. I knew he was hopeless but thought that he was oblivious to the fact.

    • PDB

       /  October 19, 2017

      Considering he was always going to be part of the future govt that was inevitable you reckon?

  11. Blazer

     /  October 19, 2017

    wonderful news….lets all embrace our new Govt…and look toward a …real..’brighter future’…for the…many.

  12. artcroft

     /  October 19, 2017

    Was great that he said the coalition is between NZ First and Labour. No mention of the Greens. 🙂 lol

  13. Corkey

     /  October 19, 2017

    Winston, I love you.

    I extend my congradulations to Blazer, Lurchy and all other Lefties on this blog.

    I see Winston trying to create a boogyman of a looming economic crisis to cover a tanking economy that will start from right now.

    The Chinese Embassy will be choking on their noodles at this moment. So will Lefties who can see the future of Labour.

    • Blazer

       /  October 19, 2017

      the Chinese will redirect their donations to..Labour.,

      • Corkey

         /  October 19, 2017

        You may be right…they only back ‘Winners.’

      • Conspiratoor

         /  October 19, 2017

        Watch for the backpedaling as the pressure comes on…

    • PDB

       /  October 19, 2017

      At least the housing crisis is fixed, good people will be leaving the country.

      • Conspiratoor

         /  October 19, 2017

        Sure, just like all those celebs who left after Trump …oh wait

        • PDB

           /  October 19, 2017

          Stuff: “Peters says he didn’t get enough votes to push the referendum on the Maori seats home. Looks like Labour put that one to bed.”

          That’s a good portion of his supporters shafted then.

          • Gezza

             /  October 19, 2017

            Hmm. That’s a surprise. Not. But it was always only ever an IQ test to pull in skme votes from those who failed it.

      • Blazer

         /  October 19, 2017

        they all say that,but never follow through.

        • Gezza

           /  October 19, 2017

          Yup. Look around the world. Godzone here. They know that.

      • Blazer

         /  October 19, 2017

        will you stay..or are you..no good?

        • PDB

           /  October 19, 2017

          Where did I say ALL good people will leave the country?

          • Blazer

             /  October 20, 2017

            where do I say you said..ALL…?I asked about…you.

    • Gezza

       /  October 19, 2017

      It’ll all be all right bro. There’s public servants n stuff telling them that’s good that’s bad, no money, have to get that off landlords n things. Still time to bulk order supplements & ammo. Latter might not even be needed after the next election.

      • The anti-Chinese remarks show an ignorant and immature form of racism that is disappointing when it comes from adults.

        • Gezza

           /  October 20, 2017

          😳
          Think I only mentioned that some stream-floating bread chunks were chinese owned? And that was on yesterday’s GC HMNZS Ella thread I think.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  October 20, 2017

            Other people are making witless and puerile anti-Chinese remarks that do the writers little credit; they are one step up from the playground chants that the bigotlets chant.

  14. Conspiratoor

     /  October 19, 2017

    Making the right noises about immigration. And signalling a cooling effect as a consequence

    • Gezza

       /  October 19, 2017

      Taxwerkingkgrüppe!!
      I haff left him. Zat iss mein final vord!
      Ermintrude

  15. duperez

     /  October 19, 2017

    I poked my head into Kiwiblog to see if there was any reaction over there. Anyone one would think the Nth Korean President had pushed the nuke button for the missiles to head our way with the “we are doomed” attitude.
    Will there be more rationality here?

    • PDB

       /  October 19, 2017

      Cam Slater has had an election shocker – and he said Bradbury was hopeless at political predictions.

      • He claimed to be right about picking Peters as Kingmaker – most of the media were doing that.

        He also picked National getting less than 40%. A long way off.

  16. PDB

     /  October 19, 2017

    Stuff: “I’m up at Labour offfices, and jubilant cheers are erupting from the Michael Joseph Savage room in Labour’s third floor parliament offices. They are delirious.
    There’s have been tears and hugging, seen through the window of the room. Labour is ecstatic.”

    Remember: Winston laughs loudest….

  17. artcroft

     /  October 19, 2017

    I’m off to run a bath. I’ll sell the water on the black economy once the water tax kicks in.

    • Corkey

       /  October 19, 2017

      The farmers wil have to bid on your water , Arty. That’s if they can get in the line

  18. Alan Wilkinson

     /  October 19, 2017

    Prepare for the great leap backwards into an economy fashioned by people who have never worked.

    • Gezza

       /  October 19, 2017

      Excitement plus plus on tevee one Al. Giggles is all breathless. Jacinda coming up after the ads by the sound of it!

    • Blazer

       /  October 19, 2017

      as a scientist how can you possibly have the…data!Bol.

    • Fight4NZ

       /  October 19, 2017

      Paraphrasing:
      Anticipate a roll back of destructive self-centered policies that have plagued this country for so many years by those with similar qualifications to those they replace but a far more advanced world view.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  October 19, 2017

        if you believe any of that you’ll be in for a serious collision with reality within the next three years.

        • Joe Bloggs

           /  October 20, 2017

          Funny that. I was thinking just the same about you Sir Al. Put your seatbelt on fella, you’re in for a rude awakening 😎

  19. Corkey

     /  October 19, 2017

    Bill could be gone.

    • Gezza

       /  October 19, 2017

      CorkEy? Are you an imposter or has your new laptop arrived?

    • artcroft

       /  October 19, 2017

      No rush. He can lead the resistance for a year and then let succession take place. No need to let Labour Last have a honeymoon.

      • Blazer

         /  October 19, 2017

        Bill should change his name to…Second..another Barker…a loser and to my surprise..a liar.

  20. Mefrostate

     /  October 19, 2017

    Eugh, feeling pretty uncomfortable about this. Patchwork coalition likely to see much more of NZ First and much less of Green. Immigration cuts probably pending, and zero chance of the planning reform we need. Only silver lining is that we might see some improvements to environmental and social policy, but even then probably weaker or less-evidenced ones than I’d like to see. Add to it that Winnie will be toxic for the left, and National will be absolutely barbaric in opposition, hard to really feel like this was a victory even if I am a lefty.

    • Blazer

       /  October 19, 2017

      anything is better than another 3 years of the blue crowd.

      • Mefrostate

         /  October 19, 2017

        Not from my perspective. Blues dropped the ball on several issues, but the left-bloc will probably drop a bunch of others.

        • Blazer

           /  October 19, 2017

          don’t be so negative mefro..the right had very little talent on the front bench if you examine things.Addressin g inequality is what is required.National had no vision.

          • Corky

             /  October 19, 2017

            Don’t forget the tax working party. That is going to be a hoot. Smart money will be leaving our shores at the first possible moment. That’s means jobs going in the finance sector and the black market.

            • Blazer

               /  October 19, 2017

              smart money can f/o then.So much money laundering been going on here..who needs it.Retaining profits in NZ should be the focus instead of exporting them overseas.Look at the Big4 AUSSIE BANKS..BILLIONS EVERY YEAR.John Spy now chair of ANZ!Prick stymied Kiwi Bank and the Cullen Fund to enrich their competition.

            • Corky

               /  October 19, 2017

              ”Smart money can f/o then” Oh,they will. Trust me.

          • Gezza

             /  October 19, 2017

            Nah. It’ll be fine. Don’t panic! Nasty Loony lefties win’t get control. Hateful Alt Righties need to adapt to a new reality. They’re going to struggle, with their limited perspectives!

          • Gezza

             /  October 19, 2017

            * win’t = won’t. (Ah Fk. Who cares.)

  21. David

     /  October 19, 2017

    60 minutes later where is she, shitty start Jacinda do you not think we need a few answers on cabinet/policies ?
    Just take your time Princess

    • Blazer

       /  October 19, 2017

      fast out of the blocks there…David.Wait for the Greens to agree.

    • Gezza

       /  October 19, 2017

      8pm Jacinda Media Conference says Mikey just a minute a go. Maybe.

      • Gezza

         /  October 19, 2017

        Carolyn just said ‘Prime Minister Elect Jacinda Ardern’ is ‘imminently arriving’!!

        • Gezza

           /  October 19, 2017

          Soz 1950 hours

        • Gezza

           /  October 19, 2017

          To be in Labour HQ, not Beehive theatrette, Mikey stunned

        • Gezza

           /  October 19, 2017

          Andrea says first question to Bill will be “Are you going to resign”.

        • Gezza

           /  October 19, 2017

          Mikey whining on and on “Is it unreasonable for us to ask – where IS the new Prime Minister??”

          • Blazer

             /  October 19, 2017

            Mike has been sucking on the blue vein flute for so many years I couldn’t help tuning in to watch his…discomfort.

        • Gezza

           /  October 19, 2017

          SHE’s HERE! ITS ALL ON!!

          • Gezza

             /  October 19, 2017

            Superb!

            • Gezza

               /  October 19, 2017

              2914 hrs
              Questions now.

            • Gezza

               /  October 19, 2017

              2014 hrs! Greens have been offered Ministerial Portfolios

            • Gezza

               /  October 19, 2017

              Mikeys spewing & trying to diss them

            • Gezza

               /  October 19, 2017

              Jacinda & Winnie & Greens. It’s embarrassing watching him.
              Funny thing, before Jacinda turned up, he had to just constantly make up & talk shit to fill in the time. Fk he was good at it!

  22. Zedd

     /  October 19, 2017

    The look on M Hosking’s face (seven sharp) is priceless; looks like a dog who had a HUGE bone pinched from him !!! Ho Ho

  23. Blazer

     /  October 19, 2017

    who will succeed [deleted – use proper names. PG] ?That is the big question for the ..right.

  24. Conspiratoor

     /  October 19, 2017

    Winstons gone upstairs for a quiet dram. The greens have decided to play silly buggers. Grants working the numbers. Jacindas on the phone to helen. Bills pulling the queen off the wall. I smell a shambles…

  25. David

     /  October 19, 2017

    Hour and a half is she still trying to compose herself, doesnt bode well does it given the rumours that are about.

  26. Gezza

     /  October 19, 2017

    Al, give your key to your firearms safe to Mrs Wilkinson please. Right now, please.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  October 19, 2017

      Too busy to attend to these minor distractions, G. I need to figure out what they’ll bugger up first and worst.

      • Gezza

         /  October 19, 2017

        Corky I imagine. Unless he goes deep. They’ll be wanting to identify & track any subversives. They always do. Apparently. Look at Aunty Helen & Op 8 & others. I think there were others. Not sure. I kept my head down back then. Just in case.

  27. Blazer

     /  October 19, 2017

    Andrew Little deserves recognition for putting his Party first.

    • Yes. He recognised he was dragging it down and acted selflessly, and as it turns out, made the right call.

  28. robertguyton

     /  October 19, 2017

    So…A National Opposition ???
    OPPOSITION!!!!!
    sweet

  29. It is what it is and it’s going to be an interesting ride.

  30. Missy

     /  October 20, 2017

    Great start from Jacinda. Why would a PM elect lock out a journalist from a press conference?