Congratulations to the incoming government

I had ambivalent feelings about who would get to form a government, it didn’t concern me one way or the other. There were reasonable arguments for both a Labour led and a National led government.

There is no doubt that it was a rapid rise and major success for the incoming Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern. She successfully turned around what looked like a looming unprecedented disaster in July to a creditable election result in September and to forming the new Government now.

Ardern was a big contrast to the string of unsuccessful Labour leaders, and she quickly demonstrated impressive capabilities that have turned out to be good enough to now lead the country.

It is a huge challenge for Ardern, as it is for every new Prime Minister. Time will tell how well she manages her own party as well as working with two other parties, but she deserves a fair go from Parliament and from the media and the public.

This is also a success for Winston Peters and for NZ First, albeit with a significantly smaller mandate they were hoping for a few months ago.

No one in Parliament is more experienced than Peters, and his deputy Ron Mark and new recruit Shane Jones also have significant parliamentary experience, Jones in Cabinet in the Clark government.  Another likely minister, Tracey martin, has been in the NZ First party since it was formed in 1993 and has been an MP for 6 years.

So NZ First should be capable of doing the business in Government.

The Greens are much less experienced. James Shaw has been an MP just three years and co-leader for two. Losing Metiria Turei was a major blow, as well as losing two experienced MPs in the fallout in August. This possibly cut their support in half or worse, but regardless they are now in government.

Shaw looks capable of being a competent minister. So does party #3 Julie Anne Genter.

However their #2, Marama Davidson, is a relative rookie, having entered Parliament less than two years ago. She may find it challenging switching from her social activist role to being part of the political establishment with the responsibilities that go with that.

Any new Government, especially one that has been out of power for nine years (or never been in power as per the Greens), will have challenges adjusting to their new roles and significantly increased workloads.

It’s a completely different ball game than being in opposition. As all those before them they are untested at this level, but in the main at least are likely to step up and do at least a reasonable job.

Some of them have high ambitions, to transform the country, especially to deal with inequality. That won’t be easy in practice.

They start with an open slate. As with any government I will give them a fair go. There will no doubt be criticisms, but they deserve the country’s support.

I wish the incoming government well, and I hope they succeed in making New Zealand a better and more successful country for all of us.

 

109 Comments

  1. duperez

     /  October 20, 2017

    I came from hearing someone on the radio in doom and gloom, ‘the country is finished’ mode to read this sensible and reasonable article. Well done Pete.
    I still remember the mad response of a losing party leader on one other occasion whose sentiments were directly opposite those of the last sentence here. No doubt she’ll be on one of the weekend tv shows once again strewing her bile.

    • Gezza

       /  October 20, 2017

      It’s a Labour-NZF coalition.
      The Greens only give confidence & supply & have will have Ministerial pozzies.
      The Greens are not in a coalition with NZF.
      Is that correct? Anyone?

      • That they’re prepared to swallow rats and prostitute themselves to LAB/NZF and be forced out of the immediate cabinet doesn’t mean they’re not in coalition Gezz – they are. Does seem a tad weird that the emphysemic one won’t even talk to the Greens though.
        Wondering how this will play out in the house and about Parliament?

        • Says it all really

          “Contrast the difference – DPF

          John Key came to power in the middle of the greatest global recession since the Great Depression. The NZ economy was in recession, unemployment was rising and there was a projected permanent structural deficit.

          John Key was absolutely positive about NZ, and how we would do, and that positive leadership saw us through incredibly challenging times economically.

          Now contrast that to last night where despite NZ having one of the few surpluses in the OECD, dropping unemployment, low interest rates and low inflation Winston Peters got up and basically said that the economy is about to crash, and that when it happens don’t blame him or the Government.

          He has said that times are going to get worse, not better, and at best the Government he picked will just be able to mitigate the impact. He’s already making excuses before he is even sworn in.

          So this is how the new Government is starting off – being picked by a guy saying the country is about to head into a nosedive. This is going to be wonderful for business and consumer confidence.’

          https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/10/contrast_the_difference.html

          • He’s full of bull and bluster, doesn’t know a dollar from a doughnut. It would appear that Ms Ardern is also parroting him after the event

            • Blazer

               /  October 20, 2017

              yet he retains all those National friends who will visit him…according to ..you.

          • Blazer

             /  October 20, 2017

            John Key had one solution to solve the GFC caused by people like him,borrow $100 billion from the people who caused it..with interest .naturlich.

            • High Flying Duck

               /  October 20, 2017

              That was his solution to funding WFF during a recession and paying for an earthquake rebuild.
              Thankfully it worked very well.
              Labour and NZF wanted to borrow even more to put in the Cullen fund.

            • Blazer

               /  October 20, 2017

              @HFD..The Cullen Fund has been a stellar performer as you well know.Orr one of very few who earns his..salary.

            • Blazer

               /  October 20, 2017

              re the earthquake,no insurance or did the earthquake expose the private Insurers as being technically…insolvent?

      • High Flying Duck

         /  October 20, 2017

        The Greens have agreed Confidence & Supply and been given three ministers outside of cabinet. As such they are not officially part of the Government – a fact that may save them at the net election.

  2. Alan Wilkinson

     /  October 20, 2017

    Woke up feeling depressed about the immediate future. I think we are going to reap the consequences of decades of intellectual stupidity and it could be bad. Just hope the markets don’t have the same view and tank like the currency. October is traditionally not a good time for them.

    • Yesterday was the 30th anniversary of Black Monday Share Market crash.

      I thought that was entirely apt

      • Blazer

         /  October 20, 2017

        that was caused by the greed of your..lot.

        • Greed huh!

          Sure there are many greedy rich people, but I see plenty of poor people who have failed at self reliance, failed to hone the skills to be self supporting. There is a vocal group of people in society who believe that roundly whinging, putting their hands out and taking off their stressed, low-wage, labouring neighbour is somehow not greedy. You can spin it anyway you like, call the system out for having failed them, but I say that anyone who, of sound mind and body, isn’t working in this near full employment era, anyone who chooses not to upskill, to move or contribute in some way to society is quite selfish, unsociable and if this continues for some time where they become a nett receiver, then yes, they’re greedy.

          Please note I say that anyone of sound mind and body, not your mentally ill and physically disabled.

          • Gezza

             /  October 20, 2017

            This is where all Maori MP’s will get tested. The problem, of course, given the task ahead of them, is that there really aren’t yet enough of them, and they don’t all have the right skills or background.

          • Blazer

             /  October 20, 2017

            thousands over 65 not working who rely on the Govt.A generous National bribe that has lasted decades.Working visas keep wages low and maintain unemployment.As Winston said 10,000 chefs!There aren’t even that many restaurants.

          • Fight4NZ

             /  October 20, 2017

            You sum up the myopic fixation of the major section of blue voters well. Obsessed and bitter that in providing a hand up some miniscule financial burden might find its way into the hands of no more than 2% of the population. So bitter they swear allegiance to a party and ideology which fundamentally will drive down their own quality of life to enrich its real constituency.

      • Corky

         /  October 20, 2017

        Also the last Holden came off the production line in Australia..it was Cherry Red. Geez, talk about demonic omens.

  3. Pete. I’m impressed by your grace.

    I am determined to make the life of this motley crew very difficult, as I imagine the National Party caucus are planning right now. The resources in Parliament are allocated by Party numbers as are positions on Select Committees. This puts National in the driving seat all the way through any parliamentary process. I am glad this coalition will be effectively hogtied, very much held to account and filibustered.

    • duperez

       /  October 20, 2017

      You have to expect that some will be intent on sabotage. Not for them the sentiment of PDB “…for the sake of the country lets hope it all goes well for the new govt.”

      For them it’s, “I can’t drive the car so I’m going to put diesel in the petrol tank.”

      All the while going on about how mad-headed MMP is and the craziness of having a “motley crew” in charge. 🐐

      • PDB

         /  October 20, 2017

        The country always comes first – so hopefully they do well.

        I was highly critical of Labour/Greens economically sabotaging the partial sales of the electricity companies (i.e. lowering the amount of money the country would get from these) by announcing ‘NZ Power’ purely to scare off possible investors, only for the concept to be later dumped once the damage had been done. Then they smugly complained the govt hadn’t received the amount of money they had said they would.

        Talking about cars………..might pay to fill up sooner rather than later.

        • duperez

           /  October 20, 2017

          And buy and store apples and cabbages for the boagus salad?🙂

  4. PDB

     /  October 20, 2017

    Yes, for the sake of the country lets hope it all goes well for the new govt.

    Do remember though they have set a very high standard of doing ‘better’ than the last govt and completing impossible feats like ending (so-called) ‘Child poverty’ in this country. To add they have been extremely critical of a highly successful and competent govt that has guided us out of historically difficult economic times.

    Therefore they will rightly be heavily criticised if they can’t keep these promises, especially considering they are inheriting a country in good financial shape with increasing surpluses and the ability (if chosen) to start paying down debt as a national-led govt was about to do.

  5. Tipene

     /  October 20, 2017

    This arrangement has all the makings of a Tinder date with Gabe Tostee.

    The only thing I can’t work out out is who is going to shove who onto the outside deck.

    National went after Peters, and in response he turfed them out of Parliament.

    It’s an old adage, but it once again rings true:

    “It’s not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, but the size of the fight in the dog”.

    Prediction: The Labour / Green “agreement” will implode, and Winston will swoop in and clean up the mess, probably grabbing the role of Prime Minister down the track as a result.

    Could someone on here please put this rumour to bed one way or the other:

    Is Ardern pregnant?

    • “Is Ardern pregnant?’

      Why is that significant? If she is she should be able to manage it. I would be disappointed if it was somehow held against her.

      There are a whole lot of MPs who could be pregnant, or whose partners could be pregnant. It’s not an unusual condition.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  October 20, 2017

        A PM on maternity leave is an unusual condition.

        • Yes, but it should be doable.

          I would hate for a PM (or any woman) to feel pressured to have an abortion because of her job.

          • Tipene

             /  October 20, 2017

            Me neither – but [Especially given the context that’s very inappropriate. PG]

          • High Flying Duck

             /  October 20, 2017

            You have to go back to Cleopatra or the monarchy to find any example of pregnancy while leading a nation.
            It would be a very big deal.
            Not sure a PC “women can do anything” mindset is helpful in this situation as it could have a profound affect on the running of a country having a PM absent for months.
            Especially if there was a small majority or factional issues in a coalition (hypothetically of course).

            • Blazer

               /  October 20, 2017

              is Amy Adams pregnant,or Nikki Kaye,maybe Maggie Barry has one in..the oven!

      • PDB

         /  October 20, 2017

        Robertson will be pulling the strings for Labour anyway so if she has to go on leave no change.

        • Corky

           /  October 20, 2017

          Notice how smug he looked yesterday? He could bearly contain himself.

          • PDB

             /  October 20, 2017

            He won’t be smiling as all the costs come in for all the policies they have to cater for…$62 billion all up between the three parties ($36k per household).

            Even if they do half of that it’s a huge financial commitment. To add Winston throws in last night that an economic downturn is also expected in the next three years – hardly time for a big spend up I would’ve thought?

            • Blazer

               /  October 20, 2017

              you can stop making things up now..the election is over..ring Joyce the ‘holey’ one and tell him..close but..no cigar!

            • PDB

               /  October 20, 2017

              Thanks for reminding me – Not to mention no extra money for all govt depts outside of Education or Health. Not to worry though…

        • Blazer

           /  October 20, 2017

          Robertson won’t,not with Winston there.Labour have the best financial talent with David Parker and new M.P Deborah Russell.National only ever had Bill English,and not for much longer.

          • Corky

             /  October 20, 2017

            Are you going to wish English well on his retirement, Blazer?

            • Blazer

               /  October 20, 2017

              English is the only one in National I rate.It was a shame to see him compromising his natural manner at the behest of National strategists .He’s had a long career and I’m sure he will enjoy life away from the public.Directorships await.

            • Corky

               /  October 20, 2017

              Good on ya. Yes, directorship and the baubles of a gilt edged super fund await him… so do the sheep.

              Geez, one minute you are surrounded by bodyguards. You know state secrets that would have citizens crapping. People say Yes Sir, No Sir, three and a half bagfuls sir…… then the next minute you are dagging sheep in a draughty wooshed with magpies squawking outside. And not a soul insight. Life can be cruel.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 20, 2017

              Do you think that change is a problem, Corks? I know that physically work in the country is sweaty and dirty and gives you some tired muscles and a few aches, but mentally the peace, fresh air, wild life and animals brings a kind of happiness that I doubt the Beehive can offer.

            • Corky

               /  October 20, 2017

              Yes, I agree. I was commenting on the juxtaposition of his two worlds and the rapid transition from one to the other in a blink of an eye. Similar to American Gi’s who would go from drinking Coka Cola, reading Playboy and listening to rock n’ roll in a safe fortified camp, to a minutes helicopter ride into the jungle to start fighting for their lives. Many went crazy.

              Bills wife, Mary, bought a relatives GP practice in Wellington about two years ago. While I can see Bill going back to the farm, I can’t see her giving up lattes and city life. Not that she needs to. She’s only 45 minutes away by plane.

      • Tipene

         /  October 20, 2017

        Given the workload Ardern is going to be under?

        Yep, that would be unusual – the morning sickness won’t be conducive to early morning media interviews, unless Mike Hosking likes being barfed over.

        • Gezza

           /  October 20, 2017

          Well, if Mikey doesn’t like it, lots of others will.

    • Gezza

       /  October 20, 2017

      Is Ardern pregnant?
      My guess would be probably not.
      But if she was, I’m sure she’d manage.
      And she’s no dummy so at least she’ll know who the mother is.

  6. Blazer

     /  October 20, 2017

    Looking to the future.Lets face it National weren’t so..great.BNZ economist Sharon Zollner was correct in saying the Govt has very little influence on the markets.Interest rates and exchange rates are the dynamic factors.

    • High Flying Duck

       /  October 20, 2017

      Government policies have a strong effect on interest rates and the exchange rate Blazer.
      Governments don’t get to enact policies without effecting the economy – that is complete rubbish.

      • Blazer

         /  October 20, 2017

        contact Sharon Zollner and tell her she doesn’t know what she is talking about.Btw tell me what policies National introduced that had a positive affect on the economy.

        • High Flying Duck

           /  October 20, 2017

          You were quoting out of context Blazer. She said Government’s have little influence on the business cycle. Countries can perform better or worse than others within that cycle, as National did for NZ by excelling at the lowest ebb of the cycle with its excellent economic management.

          • Blazer

             /  October 20, 2017

            I want examples of National policy introduced in their reign that had a direct ,positive impact on that cycle.Have you any?

            • High Flying Duck

               /  October 20, 2017

              There have been a number – tax cuts, employment legislation, policy settings around immigration, Government debt etc, infrastructure prioritisation, tourism and more.
              But the best answer is let’s see what happens when the changes are enacted by the new Government.
              Hopefully I’ll be proven wrong, but my pick is construction will drop, unemployment will rise and interest rates will rise, albeit not by much.
              And Pike River will remain unsafe for human entry.

            • Conspiratoor

               /  October 20, 2017

              Employment – national haven’t been able to get the jobless down to the 4% achieved by labour
              Immigration – those would be the policy settings that favour ‘students’ and cooks over tradesmen
              Government debt – from 5 per cent in 2008 to nearly 25 per cent now
              Infrastructure – the nats have left a mess the country simply doesn’t have the resources to fix
              Tourism – when will enough be enough
              Violent crime – on the rise

              Yes the nats have been absolute rock stars..

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 20, 2017

              @HFD, yes, I looked out of my window in Auckland on Monday morning to see a lot of cranes on the skyline. I bet they won’t be there in six months time.

            • High Flying Duck

               /  October 20, 2017

              Cons, Unemployment is the lowest in the OECD, came down faster than anywhere else and is at levels the envy of most of the developed world.
              Immigration brings in qualified tradespeople in a number of industries. Building companies are up in arms about the potential cutting down of immigration.
              Government debt is exceptionally low by international standards. It went up due to the recession, Labour policies enacted once outed in 2008, earthquakes…and now it is coming back down. It is Labour who want to delay bringing it down further.
              Infrastructure was a mess. We now have far better roading and infrastructure and substantially more investment in getting the infrastructure we need than ever before. I guess now we’ll soon have trams in the middle of Auckland though…
              Tourism – brings in huge dollars to pay for all the above. The country is hardly full.

            • Gezza

               /  October 20, 2017

              And Pike River will remain unsafe for human entry.

              🤔 Winston’s going in, isn’t he?
              And he’s superhuman, isn’t he? 💪🏼
              Nothing kills him. 👺

              (Though it’s killed those other associated with him, in the past, come to think of it. 😬)

            • Gezza

               /  October 20, 2017

              😡 * insert missing “Parties” where obvious 🍺🍾🍰🍾⚽️

      • Fight4NZ

         /  October 20, 2017

        Here I thought the Reserve Bank was legislated to set interest rates with complete independence of govt. But recent changes in the external financial environment have the RB failing to make an impact too.
        So what your saying is our govt controls the world? Didn’t know that.

  7. George

     /  October 20, 2017

    Looks like the market is going to have a say.
    And all those ‘Chinky’ names move their money to brighter climes and those houses are going to build themselves while somehow the masses of under privileged kids become millionaires in their own right..
    And all by yesterday

    • Blazer

       /  October 20, 2017

      NZ is the only’ free range’ for those foreign investors and what they require.Buying the country is way cheaper than invading..it.

    • He’s that full of reinventing his position, it’s little wonder he switched allegiance to the Peters circus.

    • Gezza

       /  October 20, 2017

      Haven’t most The whalers harpoons embedded themselves in his own blubberings?

  8. Joe Bloggs

     /  October 20, 2017

    And barely 12 hours after the big reveal, Hoskings is already a Herald headline act with his quivering lower lip.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11934989

    Suck it up, you poor RWNJ snowflake.

    • “Suck it up, you poor RWNJ snowflake”
      Delightful. Nobody does maturity and grace like the left.

      • PDB

         /  October 20, 2017

        Well summed up!

      • Blazer

         /  October 20, 2017

        oh the irony..Australian Labour Party has by far the most seats out of any party!

        • Your point?

        • High Flying Duck

           /  October 20, 2017

          Your point is, as usual, simply misinformation as the Nationals and the Liberals work together in Australia, as a closer coalition than Labour Greens here.
          They have a clear majority as a pairing, whereas Labour Greens here were “losers” any way it was added up.
          The headline is correct and without irony.

  9. Alan Wilkinson

     /  October 20, 2017

    We are about to puncture the delusion that shifting money from investment to expenditure doesn’t have consequences. Hold tight folks.

    • PDB

       /  October 20, 2017

      Stuff: “Ardern also seemed to be joining Peters in trying to absolve the new government of economic difficulties ahead

      Certainly there were signs of an economic slowdown, Ardern said.

      “It was only fair of Mr Peters to reflect what might be on the horizon for this new Labour-led government, to make sure that people have some anticipation that we will potentially have a rocky road in front of us.”

      Um……..funny how we didn’t hear this from them PRIOR to voting day. Is this the moment when left-wing politics meets reality? What about all the election talk of a Labour-led govt doing ‘better’ than a National led one? Will they hold off on spending promises in preparation for this impending economic doom?

      Are they just trying to cover their ass when they all stuff the economy up?

    • Blazer

       /  October 20, 2017

      flipping houses is hardly…’investment’.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  October 20, 2017

        So why is the taxpayer about to start doing it, B?

        Begin work to establish the Affordable Housing Authority and begin the KiwiBuild programme

        • Gezza

           /  October 20, 2017

          To get more people permanently housed as their own landlords than National would’ve seemed to be the general thrust of the idea throughout the campaign & the lead up?
          Now they have three years to try, Al. And better access to stats n shit to play with too.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  October 20, 2017

            If they wanted to do that they would sell Housing Corp properties to their tenants as Bob Jones suggested, Sir Gerald. Simple and quick. Instead they will spend heaps of our money and wind up with more permanent tenants. Meanwhile speculators will snap up the “affordable houses courtesy of the taxpayer” and flick them on as normal unaffordable houses.

            • Gezza

               /  October 20, 2017

              That’s one theory, Sir Alan. Sir Bob of course owned one of the earthquake risk buildings I worked in (naturally we knew he owned it, but not that it was an earthquake risk – only learned that when we did on site Civil Defence training. He did Nothing. Flicked it on to someone for a tidy sum, after it had appreciated considerably, of course. Turned into apartments now. I wouln’t live in them myself, of course.

    • Gezza

       /  October 20, 2017

      You’re panicking too early.

      Labour was a weak opposition. Especially by when led Andy & all Jacinda’s predecessors who could make themselves look utterly weak & useless & totally pulled that off.
      National should be a strong Opposition, especially if led by Paula, who can make herself look utterly vile & would totally pull that off.

      • High Flying Duck

         /  October 20, 2017

        Zip it sweetie!

        • Gezza

           /  October 20, 2017

          Now you owe me a uptick.

          • Gezza

             /  October 20, 2017

            (believes one good turn deserves another)

            • Gezza

               /  October 20, 2017

              Obviously not everybody agrees.
              But, you know,
              🦃 & 👋 are everywhere
              So, whatever!
              As the old Zen Yoda says!
              🛡⚔

        • Blazer

           /  October 20, 2017

          that about sums up…Big ,bellicose bertha butt.

    • Fight4NZ

       /  October 20, 2017

      From not investing in residential property to expenditure on productivity. You’re Right, big upswing on the way. Just got to get past the next wave of socialised losses engineered by the lapdogs for the benefit of the privileged.

  10. Ray

     /  October 20, 2017

    I heard the Unions lining up to get their pound of flesh or rather a return for their investment on redradio this morning.
    That billion million hole is starting to grow because the inflation and job loss it will cause wasn’t budgeted for.

    • Gezza

       /  October 20, 2017

      Early daze, dave. Eary daze. Give it time. Markets will settle, once they realise the war parties are not coming to the compounds.

      • Gezza

         /  October 20, 2017

        (😳 dave??) Sorry Ray.
        As you were.
        Carry on soldier.
        💂🏻

    • Blazer

       /  October 20, 2017

      how much do you need..watch,listen and…learn..

      • High Flying Duck

         /  October 20, 2017

        My god that was a terrible watch. You could hear his voice struggling to push through the tin-foil.

        • Blazer

           /  October 20, 2017

          he provided real anecdotal evidence to relate to…which parts are not factual.Yes he hasn’t got the best voice,but stay on…message.

  11. David Taumata

     /  October 20, 2017

    thankful for the change from 9 years of National but wish it was a clear win and not dependent on Winston Peters. Take it I guess.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  October 20, 2017

      The alternative is a clear loss isn’t it?

  12. PDB

     /  October 20, 2017

    Stuff: “Gaynor (Fund manager Brian Gaynor, of Milford Asset Management) said it was unusual to see a politician talking down the economy in the way Peters had when the NZ First leader warned that a downturn was coming. 

    “If he keeps on doing that, it’s not going to be good.”

    What about the new PM now talking down the economy as well?

    What about this then?

    Stuff: “But Infometrics believed the economy still had “more gas in the tank” for 2018 and beyond, in a forecast that was released hours ahead of Peters’ decision but under a morning embargo. Chief forecaster Gareth Kiernan predicted the economy would grow at an annual rate of 3.4 per cent next year and in 2019.”

    Are Labour/NZL First already conceding, less than a day after joining forces, that they can’t run the economy as well as the last National govt?

    • David Taumata

       /  October 20, 2017

      In 1990 Peters got elected on the back of Nationals vast and clearly ridiculous promises. The day after the election he distanced himself from the delivery process and eventually formed a new party where he could attack both National and Labour all the while promising a fantasy New Zealand utopia. 27 years later Peters pulls the same 1990 electoral stunt. Promise the planet pre-election but once elected tell the electorate that once again his promises can’t be delivered. How does any one get away with that? 27 years? Are voters stupid? Probably. Minor parties forming governments require a leap in faith I struggle to negotiate. I did not vote for his party so please do not tell me “the people have spoken” or “we get what we deserve”, just not in the mood today.

      • Gezza

         /  October 20, 2017

        please do not tell me “the people have spoken”
        That argument is based on the fact that more voters, and thus non-voters, didn’t want National as the government than did.

        we get what we deserve
        That one is a misconception, not necessarily true, and better stated as “we get what we get”.

        The rest is history not yet made.

      • High Flying Duck

         /  October 20, 2017

        No he doesn’t:
        Without these inflows of foreign workers and returning New Zealanders, businesses would have struggled to meet growing demand, and cost pressures would be even more intense in areas such as the construction and tourism sectors.”

        “Struggling to meet growing demand”, :”there is a shortage of skilled labour”…that is real growth, not smoke and mirrors.

        • Blazer

           /  October 20, 2017

          wrong..look at the actual categories of working visas..chefs,truck drivers,retail workers,among others..keeps wages down for horticultural work and farmers,so profits are larger ,regardless of the negatives,which are…many.

          • High Flying Duck

             /  October 20, 2017

            Loads of farmers are really struggling to find workers – NZ’s don’t want to shift to the countryside to work. Immigrants fill the need. Carpenters are No 5 of the list of immigrant professions, so not far down.
            Immigration had a recent crackdown on undocumented workers and it left many in the horticulture industry in the lurch as they simply could not find labour.
            Truck drivers are also another industry that simply cannot find workers and needs to import them.

            • Gezza

               /  October 20, 2017

              Have you seen our flippin roads? 3rd world drivers probably best meet the experience requirements.

              3 years. After the National didn’t fix it either will wear thin.

            • Gezza

               /  October 20, 2017

              Oh all right!
              After that, “National didn’t fix it either”, will wear thin.
              Bloody whinger.

        • Fight4NZ

           /  October 20, 2017

          Let me walk you through it. You don’t bring in excess migrant labour for construction or the plethora of other non essentials and then you don’t have to build houses for them or those they displace and then you don’t have a shortage of workers.
          Disclaimer: no property developers or real estate agents were consulted for their expert opinion in the writing of this common sense.

          • Corky

             /  October 21, 2017

            Winz weren’t consulted either regarding their large inactive work force.

            • Gezza

               /  October 21, 2017

              They make them job hunt & report in every week or the bennies get reduced. What improvements can you suggest?

  13. Zedd

     /  October 20, 2017

    BOO HOO.. MMP did not deliver a 4th term for Natz, who are totally out of coalition partners & ideas

    Listening to ZB, you would think it was a FPP election with many ignorant folks saying; Natz won most seats & DESERVE to be the Govt.. WRONG !!!

    They only got 44% of the vote, plus one act seat.. ho hum.. get over it people.. we had to put up with 9 years of these SMUG sods..
    “GOOD RIDDANCE” sez I&ae 🙂

    • David Taumata

       /  October 20, 2017

      Listening to ZB?. Listening to national party HQ you mean 🙂 ZB talk has always been heavily right wing because commercial radio needs money and the right have more money. It is probably nothing more than that but it is true. Money talks and on talk radio it’s right wing red neck money which is the driving force. Leyton Smith older middle aged male right wing white Australian red neck is the epitome of ZB’s world 🙂

    • Gezza

       /  October 20, 2017

      I see the other I’s moved out & ae’s moved in Zedd.
      Did I&I no longer see eye to eye over something?