Trump reaction to New York terror attack

The vehicle terror attack in New York has not surprisingly been used by President Trump to promote tougher immigration restrictions, but he has also tried to blame a Democrat Senator.

NBC: Trump: ‘Terrorist’ Attack, Suspect ‘Deranged,’ ISIS Stay Out of U.S.

Police said the driver of a rental truck deliberately drove onto a bike path on the west side of lower Manhattan hitting bicyclists and others before getting out of the vehicle and being shot by police, law enforcement officials and witnesses said.

At least eight people were killed and 11 injured. Saipov is hospitalized and in police custody.

A law enforcement official told WNBC that a note found in the suspect’s truck claimed that he carried out the attack for ISIS.

This is the first ISIS claimed vehicle attack in the US but not the first vehicle attack.

President Donald Trump called the murderous spree by a rental truck driver in New York City on Tuesday “another attack by a very sick and deranged person,” sent condolences to victims of what the president referred to as a “terrorist attack,” and pledged to step up extreme vetting of those seeking to enter the U.S.

Later, Trump tweeted, “I have just ordered Homeland Security to step up our already Extreme Vetting Program. Being politically correct is fine, but not for this!”

The problem here is that this attacker was already living in the US – Saipov entered the United States in 2010 on a diversity visa and had become a lawful permanent resident.

Another problem is Trump’s diversion in trying to lay some blame on a Democrat Senator for the attack – Reuters: After New York attack, Trump blasts senior Democratic senator

In Twitter posts, the Republican president linked Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer to a visa program under which Trump said the man suspected of Tuesday’s attack, an Uzbek immigrant, entered the United States.

In a speech on the Senate floor, Schumer responded that Trump should stop “politicizing and dividing America” at times of national tragedy.

Trump reprised what has been his stance as a White House candidate and as president – that tougher immigration laws should be a first line of defense against terrorism.

He said the suspect entered the country through the so-called diversity visa program, which was created by Congress in 1990, to provide a path to U.S. residency for citizens from a range of countries with historically low rates of immigration to the United States.

“The terrorist came into our country through what is called the ‘Diversity Visa Lottery Program,’ a Chuck Schumer beauty. I want merit based”.

In another post, Trump cited an analyst who appeared on a Fox News Channel program, writing, “‘Senator Chuck Schumer helping to import Europes problems’ said Col.Tony Shaffer. We will stop this craziness!”

But:

Schumer helped create the program in 1990 when he was a member of the House of Representatives, but he was also a member of a group of lawmakers who crafted a bipartisan immigration bill in 2013 that would have done away with the program. That bill was passed by the Senate but was killed by the Republican-led House.

Schumer responded:

“Instead of politicizing and dividing America, which he always seems to do at times of national tragedy, (Trump) should be bringing us together and focusing on the real solution, anti-terrorism funding, which he proposed to cut in his most recent budget.”

Sad to see a terror attack being used in political bickering.

Stopping the diversity lottery and stepping up the Extreme Vetting Program won’t address problems already in the US. The division stoked by President Trump is probably as big a risk as anything.

14 Comments

  1. David

     /  November 2, 2017

    “Stopping the diversity lottery and stepping up the Extreme Vetting Program won’t address problems already in the US.”

    That isn’t the point now is it?

    • sorethumb

       /  November 2, 2017

      Diversity is the inverse of social cohesion and when you see all the “taking a knee” – national cohesion as well.

      • Patzcuaro

         /  November 3, 2017

        In the case of the African Americans they were taken as slaves from Africa and transported to America. The diversity in the US was created by the monetary greed of the European settlers.

        The indegeous Indian population are probably not very happy about the diversity that was thrust upon them by the arrival of the Europeans.

        Here is Wikipedia’s definition of a National Anthem:

        “A national anthem (also state anthem, national hymn, national song, etc.) is generally a patriotic musical composition that evokes and eulogizes the history, traditions, and struggles of its people, recognized either by a nation’s government as the official national song, or by convention through use by the people.”

        As a national anthem commerates the struggles of its people it could be seen as a appropriate event to highlight the continuing struggles of a segment of the population.

  2. sorethumb

     /  November 2, 2017

    “We have to get much tougher,” Trump said. “We have to get much smarter. And we have to get much less politically correct. We’re so politically correct that we’re afraid to do anything.”

    “and other countries as well”

  3. Alan Wilkinson

     /  November 2, 2017

    Sad to see a terror attack being used in political bickering.

    Why on earth do you say that? Surely finding the right political solutions to terrorism is one of the most important issues for citizens who want to live their lives free of fear and the constraints of heavy security?

  4. David

     /  November 2, 2017

    The diversity visa system belongs in another age but congress cant even get their act together on DACA where they all pretty much agree. There is a bit of a trend for these terrorists to be home grown or been in the host countries for a while so logically stopping fresh Muslim immigrants may stop terrorist attacks in 15-30 years time.
    The internet and mosques need much greater scrutiny and oversight, its ridiculous the drama one goes through at an airport and yet Youtube has hate preachers inciting radical islamists.

  5. Alan Wilkinson

     /  November 2, 2017

    This is a good article looking at Uzbekistan’s links with ISIS terrorism:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/11/uzbekistan-terrorism-new-york-sayfullo-saipov/544649/

    • sorethumb

       /  November 3, 2017

      Because radical Islam is suppressed it drives it underground and ultimately to America.
      Boko Harem exists in a void in Africa. The only light it has to guide it is: Islam.
      …..
      Too Muchy apology.

  6. Zedd

     /  November 2, 2017

    Al Jz showed a story about the increased number of ‘White supremecists’ rallies & websites that have happened since MrT took power. They showed a few issues:

    1) a website with the banner ‘Trump, make America White again !’
    2) a rally where a group of young white men were waving confederate & nazi flags. One guy was yelling at Afro-Americans to ‘go back to Africa.. where you came from !’. Interestingly they were surrounded by a bunch of WHITE Cops. Who seemed to be standing, opposed to the black guys ?
    3) a loud speaker setup outside a mosque, during daily prayers.. with a recorded voice calling for them to pack up & leave USA.

    btw; I hear that MrTs vitriolic call to ‘ban gays in the Military’ has been blocked.. :/

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  November 2, 2017

      So what? Any meaningful statistics? Any surprise that amongst 323 million people anyone can find some nutters?

      • Gezza

         /  November 2, 2017

        Hardly. They even elected one as President, from what I can see.

    • sorethumb

       /  November 3, 2017

      The issue is the notion that under globalisation people should be free to move about. Those movements are from many overcrowded shit holes to a few (mainly Anglo ) countries. Multicultural policy dictates that no group should dominate so they dismantle the national identity which was largely based on the majority group. To do that officialdom favour minorities while watching the members of the dominant group who object. They control the media.

      • Gezza

         /  November 3, 2017

        I don’t think it’s deliberate policy: it’s just ignorance, a misplaced notion every culture or religion will somehow fit in, that because ours is so generally tolerant they’ll be the same.