Compensation increase for Teina Pora confirmed

The previous government kept resisting approving full compensation for Teina Pora after he was wrongly jailed for 17 years.

One thing the new Government is putting right is approving appropriate compensation.

Newshub: Andrew Little confirms Teina Pora will get extra compensation

“Teina Pora will receive an extra $988,099 as an inflation adjustment, bringing the total compensation package to $3,509,048.42. Additionally, Mr Pora will receive $45,000 in costs from his successful judicial review of the last National Government’s refusal to inflation adjust”.

“Teina Pora was the victim of one of New Zealand’s worst miscarriages of justice. He was robbed of more than two decades of his life, languishing in prison for crimes he did not commit. These were years when Mr Pora could have been working to build his future and his family.”

A fair outcome, after a long period of injustice.

53 Comments

  1. Helga

     /  November 8, 2017

    Seriously? $3.5m for a false confession and making up lies?
    Never in his wildest dreams would Teina at age 20 believe one day he could ever have that sort of money. It’s not compensation it’s unjust enrichment.

    • Agree entirely.

    • duperez

       /  November 8, 2017

      There might be a novel there – a 20 year old lying in bed and having a wild dream that many years down the track he could be given a $3.5 million “enrichment.” Then to planning how it could all happen, would happen and making it happen.

      The most fascinating chapters would be the ones dealing with the reactions at the end, especially the “Big deal you caused it yourself, you shouldn’t get a cent” responses.

      • That’s not the way movies go…ask poor old Joe. He thought he would ride on a charger through Hollywood when his boy was acquitted. Didn’t happen. Pora will always be a chump, a rich one, but a chump nonetheless

  2. Blazer

     /  November 8, 2017

    the underlying problem is that any police officer would have realised that Pora was not the perp.He could not even point out the house where the murder occurred.Reflects badly on the detectives involved.

    • patupaiarehe

       /  November 8, 2017

      Regardless of how useless the police were, he still confessed. IMHO he deserves nothing. He is basically being paid several million dollars of our money, for being a thick wannabe gangster. All is not lost though. I suspect that a large portion of the money will be ‘reclawed’ via excise tax, on all the piss & smokes he will buy for himself & his ‘mates’…

      • Yep. That’s the feeling in our household too.

        • Gezza

           /  November 8, 2017

          Covered on 1ewes at 6 tonite. His lawyers set thing up for him so that his compensation money is being managed by a trust, to ensure it produces a steady ongoing income and doesn’t just get blown on piss and smokes for him and his mates. My condolences to you and patu. I feel for you both. Deeply. For your humanity especially.

          • It’ll be a fairly hefty income, so the mates (and I bet that he has plenty of mates now) will still do all right. It’s dreaming to say that it won’t (probably) be blown.

          • patupaiarehe

             /  November 8, 2017

            Spare me your feigned sympathy G. It is common practice in gangs, for prospects to ‘take the rap’ for senior members crimes, in order to ‘earn their stripes’. They do an easy ‘lag’, as other members of the gang look after them in prison. Do you seriously think it is OK to reward this behaviour, with the money that I & every other taxpayer work hard for?

            • patupaiarehe

               /  November 8, 2017

              And as for his lawyers, I suspect their motives are far from alturistic…

            • patupaiarehe

               /  November 8, 2017

              Altruistic. 😀

            • phantom snowflake

               /  November 8, 2017

              Hey Patu. Absolutely, the practice you’ve outlined happens. However, in this case, it’s pretty well documented that the gang affiliations of Teina Pora (Mongrel Mob Notorious) and Malcolm Rewa (Highway 61) make it extremely unlikely that they would have worked together. Here’s (alleged) gang expert Jarrod Gilbert on the subject:

              http://www.jarrodgilbert.com/blog/teina-pora-do-his-former-gang-connections-rule-him-out

            • Gezza

               /  November 8, 2017

              Snowy’s got some food for thought there patu – maybe?
              Other than that, hard to know what to say really. NZFirst went with Labour. Labour Minister had a different view of the matter than maybe a National one would’ve. Just how it is. Gotta take the rough with the smooth with Winnie.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  November 8, 2017

              An interesting read Phantom. But here’s the ‘thing’…

              I am utterly convinced that Teina Pora is an innocent man.

              An innocent semi-retarded man, who confessed to a crime that he didn’t commit. Who is now being paid millions of taxpayer dollars, due to his own stupid mistake. And yet the IRD wonder why tradies do ‘cashies’. I do ‘cashies’, because Teina Pora makes me resent paying tax. And I don’t lose a wink of sleep over it…

            • Gezza

               /  November 8, 2017

              I do free concerts for hardworking waterbirds who slog their guts out surviving on whatever they can forage several times a week. Don’t expect to be paid for it.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  November 8, 2017

              Which is a true testament to your character G. I’m certain they appreciate it. However, you seem to be ‘engaging in diversion’, which means you see my point, but don’t have a counter argument… 😀 😛

            • Gezza

               /  November 8, 2017

              Well, if we can just put the issue of your now having another a handy reason for tax evasion to one for side for the moment, isn’t the issue re:

              An innocent semi-retarded man, who confessed to a crime that he didn’t commit. Who is now being paid millions of taxpayer dollars, due to his own stupid mistake.

              That when he did finally fess up and say look sorry it wasn’t me, and was by now pretty feckin obvious it couldn’t have been, nobody listened & so from that point on his earning power increased considerably?

            • patupaiarehe

               /  November 8, 2017

              He made his bed, & he should lie in it. He will be back in court within a year, most likely for funding a meth lab, courtesy of the taxpayer…

            • Gezza

               /  November 8, 2017

              Ok – now don’t take this the wrong way but, remember –
              * Metiria was going to win Te Tai Tonga
              * NZF was going to get 20+%
              * There would be an NZF/Green coalition government?

              You gonna bet $50 on this one?
              Or just another measly $1.00?

            • patupaiarehe

               /  November 8, 2017

              I was almost right on the last one. I’m good for a ‘hundy’ on this one G. And I don’t bet real amounts, on anything I am uncertain of. This thread is getting a bit long, so best we just agree to disagree.

            • Gezza

               /  November 8, 2017

              Ok. A hundy it is.
              Shit. I hope you’re wrong. I’d rather spend that $ton on something else. He’s cost me enuf already.
              I’ve made a note in me iPad calendar.

            • Gezza

               /  November 8, 2017

              Now that’s out of the way, can we talk about tax evasion?

            • patupaiarehe

               /  November 8, 2017

              Avoidance G. Get it right please 😀 . Lets discuss it in another thread

            • Gezza

               /  November 8, 2017

              Righto. I’ll be a little while. I’m just reading something I posted for Al which I hadn’t actually read. I just copied some paras and pasted them & hoped for the best.

            • phantom snowflake

               /  November 8, 2017

              I’m lengthening the thread. Mostly to be annoying, but also to say that the bit I agree with is that $3.5 mil is a pretty insane amount.

            • Gezza

               /  November 8, 2017

              I haven’t done the sums to see how much it changes it, but Duncan Garner worked out his hourly rate at the last settlement:
              http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/81156239/Duncan-Garner-For-23-cents-each-Teina-Pora-could-get-a-proper-payout

            • patupaiarehe

               /  November 8, 2017

              @Phantom Lets deduct what he would have ‘earned’ on the dole, from what it cost us to keep him imprisoned. By my calculation, he still owes us a lot of money…

            • phantom snowflake

               /  November 8, 2017

              What if you include a few “cashies” he might have potentially done LOL

            • Gezza

               /  November 8, 2017

              An interesting comment from “source” in that article, patu
              “Put it this way, if I offered you $2.5m to spend 22 years in prison, would you take it?”

              (Now $3.5m of course, but still – would you have the wife and kids you have now?)

            • patupaiarehe

               /  November 8, 2017

              @G

              I know it seems like Teina Pora won lotto this week with the $2.52 million compensation payout – but he’s been royally shafted and short-changed. Again.

              He ‘shafted’ himself! He confessed FFS!
              I am thoroughly sick of a FAS affected retard, who confessed to something he didn’t do, being paraded about in the media as a victim of injustice. I hope he uses his unearned wealth to develop a drug habit, and dies of an overdose. The sooner the better. Children are going to school hungry in NZ, while a retard who has no hope of contributing anything useful to society, is set up for life.

            • Gezza

               /  November 8, 2017

              @ patu

              Last sentence. Didn’t you vote for Winston?

            • patupaiarehe

               /  November 8, 2017

              @G
              If you are looking for a ‘bite’, you’re going to have to try harder… 😀 😛

            • Gezza

               /  November 8, 2017

              Nonsense! I just got one!
              Here in North Welly we always get the best bites. 😎
              You KNOW it! 😀

            • patupaiarehe

               /  November 9, 2017

  3. This whole easy on crims, let them out of prison lark will go down like a cup of cold sick when crime stats start rocketing

  4. Corky

     /  November 8, 2017

    Not a great look for National. Pike River could add to National looking unsympathetic towards victims of circumstance. Labour should play these two issues for all they are worth.

    • Gezza

       /  November 8, 2017

      Can’t see that either the Pora compensation or any Pike River entry decision would change the political landscape much. Plenty of people across the political spectrum hold views on whether either should be done. They don’t seem to be issues on which people’s attitudes are decided by their party affiliations.

  5. Why does HE get such a massive amount ? Other people have been wrongly accused who haven’t been dopey enough to confess to it and not been given a brass farthing.

  6. phantom snowflake

     /  November 8, 2017

    IMO it’s pretty harsh of various commenters to judge him for his low intelligence; his Foetal Alcohol Syndrome was hardly his fault, and may explain what otherwise may be puzzling:

    Foetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder And False Confessions

    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/lawreport/honest-lying/6329696

    • Revel

       /  November 8, 2017

      That was total nonsense. If you heard him in the media he was extremely eloquent for a man incarcerated that long.

      • phantom snowflake

         /  November 8, 2017

        People far more expert than me, and possibly even you, have diagnosed him with Foetal Alcohol Syndrome. That he can string some words together on TV doesn’t mean he’s intellectually OK. That is illustrated pretty well in the transcript of the article above.

  7. Pickled Possum

     /  November 9, 2017

    “These were years when Mr Pora could have been working to build his future and his family.”

    If he was as vulnerable, gullible as reported, do you think his life could have been better ‘on the outside’. I don’t think so. He may have been into lots of bad life style choices that may have seen him doing more jail time and being a real threat to society.

    False confessions under police intimidation or coercion are while rare in NZ they are a reality.
    The groups most likely to confess during police interviews are juveniles, people with intellectual disability, and those with mental illness.
    I am sure a young Teina Pora would fit snugly under one of these.

    If Teina is going to get millions for serving 20 years jail time, shouldn’t he at lest pay towards some board for that lag. No seriously how much did the man pay towards his up-keep?
    So free board and food for 20 years plus a big pay out.

    I am pleased to see he has allowed trusted trustees to over-see his millions.

    It seems hard for the poor who become rich over night, to manage their money successfully.
    A few lotto millionaires are a example.
    Once Poor and Lonely – then Rich and Popular … always ends in tears.
    Read and wept for human stupidity or the not so smart.
    https://www.thepennyhoarder.com/smart-money/lottery-winners-who-lost-it-all/

    • Corky

       /  November 9, 2017

      ”If he was as vulnerable, gullible as reported, do you think his life could have been better ‘on the outside’. I don’t think so.”

      Sad, but true. It can categorically be stated: prison ultimately gave Teina a lifestyle he, and most New Zealanders can only dream of.

      Better still, any hangers on, or new whanau members who just found out they are related, have no chance of getting their hands on the mother load. The best they can hope for is $20 for a feed from Teinas allowance.

      • Gezza

         /  November 9, 2017

        Just a small thing – and please don’t take this the wrong way, meant only in a spirit of a certain amount of possibly misplaced temporary affection, & helpfulness – the correct phrase is “mother lode” & generally refers I believe to finding the main vein in a gold mine.

  8. Corky

     /  November 9, 2017

    I’m a simple man and not school trained.

    TOP DEFINITION
    motherload
    jackpot, big winnings or big findings
    Today I went to an abandoned warehouse and boy did I hit the motherload. There was free stuff everywhere worth thousands of dollars.

    I will correct my mistake- motherload.

    • Gezza

       /  November 9, 2017

      motherload

      TOP DEFINITION
      Shit Flavored Air
      An unexpectantly raunchy patch of foul smelling air caused by a nasty fart. A delicacy in the right setting- see dutch oven. Usually the culprit is unknown (see SBD) and most often it is caused by random crop dusting.
      Scott- “Did you taste that?”
      Tap- “I smelt it.”
      Scott- “Shit flavored air!”

      • Gezza

         /  November 9, 2017

        Mind you, there was a # in front of that one, so possibly that makes a difference?