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8 November 2017

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40 Comments

  1. lurcher1948

     /  November 8, 2017

    After one year has Trump,POTUS 45 made “America great again”??

    • Conspiratoor

       /  November 8, 2017

      Obama was the greatest gun salesman in history. Sales of guns are plummeting under Trump after hitting a record high under his predecessor’s watch.

      The NRA are not happy!

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  November 8, 2017

        Unfortunately the consequence of Obama’s power vaccuum that created ISIS terrorism and led to an explosion of mass murder by lunatic copycats in the USA as I pointed out yesterday is still with us.

        • Joe Bloggs

           /  November 8, 2017

          You seem determined to repeat the lie that Obama was responsible for creating ISIS so I’ll repeat myself to highlight your bullshit:

          The instability of the Middle East transcends Democrat-Republican or Labour-Tory divisions.

          Bush, Blair, Obama, and Cameron all have blood on their hands. The Chilcott inquiry was very clear and thorough in that regard.

          The roots of ISIS lie in the 2003 invasion of Iraq. The fall of Hussein sparked an era of instability, and that created the optimum conditions for jihadist opportunism.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  November 8, 2017

            That was truly banal, Joe. Of course everything that goes before creates the opportunity for a calamitous disaster. But you have to give the Left credit for exploiting their opportunity brilliantly. Well done you.

            • Gezza

               /  November 8, 2017

              BS, Sir Alan! Joe wins again! You KNOW it!

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  November 8, 2017

              You and the Black Knight, Sir Gerald. Birds of a feather.

    • Corky

       /  November 8, 2017

      But of course, Lurchy:

      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy/u-s-job-growth-rebounds-sharply-unemployment-rate-falls-to-4-4-percent-idUSKBN1810BZ

      https://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/2017/models/ecoboost-premium-fastback/

      The President proves he’s Green.

      It’s a pity the Prez tweets so much. That hides his greatness and allows ignorant critics like you to tee -off.

      ps- have a good day. And GOD BLESS AMERICA.

  2. Corky

     /  November 8, 2017

    The Whaler posted this yesterday. Potentially a very serious situation for Sweden. If this chap is telling the truth ( and its not a conspiracy theory), Sweden is basically conceding sovereignty in certain areas of the country to migrants.

    This is an example of what happens when liberalism confronts reality. Could this scenario happen in New Zealand? Why, yes. It already is. In the Ureweras, East coast and parts of South Auckland. Increase our migrant population with certain people like Sweden, and New Zealand will become a carbon copy.

    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/11/7-bombs-12-days-sweden/

    • David

       /  November 8, 2017

      Sweden, without saying it out loud, has figured it has a problem of epic proportions that they are totally ill equipped to deal with and have pretty much shut the border. The crime statistics given the low base prior is mind blowing especially when you figure the highest crime areas are no go areas.

  3. David

     /  November 8, 2017

    Have to rank as probably the stupidest editorial ever…

    Posted here: https://yournz.wordpress.com/2017/11/08/what-now-for-partnership-schools/

  4. Patzcuaro

     /  November 8, 2017

    Paddles the first cat has died as after incident with car, donations to SPCA.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11941627

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  November 8, 2017

      I see Morgan is still being a prick about cats.

      • Patzcuaro

         /  November 8, 2017

        • This is patently fricken ridiculous. It shows how banal we’ve become as a nation that even her cat is elevated to celebrity status.

          Who knew about previous PM’s animals?

          It’s SOOOOO Kardashian

          • Patzcuaro

             /  November 8, 2017

            Maybe just a little humanity amongst the hurly-burly of daily life.

            • You’re kidding. I’m a woman, I have given birth to a few children, I volunteer, I love babies and animals, I cry in most movies. However, I find this cat obsession a step too far. It’s stupid, it’s banal and it diminishes women. Heaven help the nation and tissue sales if St Jacinda ( virgin birth of course) has a child or two.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  November 8, 2017

            Not sure that it’s any more ridiculous tban what happened in Parliament yesterday and I’d sooner have an animal lover than an animal hater as a PM.

          • Blazer

             /  November 8, 2017

            we all heard about the cat named …Socks…Natz did it…tooo.

            • High Flying Duck

               /  November 8, 2017

              Wasn’t “socks” the Clinton cat paraded to try and convince people they were human?

            • Blazer

               /  November 8, 2017

              @HFD..yes,my mistake…Keys was called…’Moonbeam’.

          • High Flying Duck

             /  November 8, 2017

            It’s the bizarre duality of “treating women seriously” while reconciling it with Woman’s Day articles and cat stories.
            Although to be fair to Jacinda I think it is more Clarke who is diminishing the office with puerile “first gent” attempts to pump his profile.

        • Corky

           /  November 8, 2017

          Bad omens abound for this government.

          • High Flying Duck

             /  November 8, 2017

            If he’d just walked under the ladder he’s still be alive today…

  5. High Flying Duck

     /  November 8, 2017

    It took all of 5 minutes for left of the left Bryce Edwards t ofall out of love with this government:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11941784

  6. High Flying Duck

     /  November 8, 2017

    The Speaker of the House Election explained:

    View story at Medium.com

    • Corky

       /  November 8, 2017

      ”Later, Chris discovers he had another 50 cents in his pocket. “I knew that I had that extra money,” Chris tells his mates, “but it was really important to me that Simon contributed to my buying the pie.”

      Somebody fill my popcorn bowl up…the fun just keeps coming.

  7. lurcher1948

     /  November 8, 2017

    Why a rich person pouring money into his party, but has NIL empathy with other humans like Jacinda, and her sorrow is thought less than toilet paper, Gareth Moron you are going NO WHERE, but keep spending millions…. PS revist North Korea, better than KILLING cats NOT
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/11/why_top_will_never_make_5.html

    • Corky

       /  November 8, 2017

      Well, Lurchy, let me take slurp of my organic coffee, grown by peons in the Colombian Highlands ( i wonder if they are still alive?). Ah, that’s better. Now the caffeine is kicking in, I can say ….I agree with you. There’s something not quite right with Gareth.

      Morgans travelled through many exotic countries. I wonder if he’s picked up one of those parasites that bore through your ear and into your brain?

  8. lurcher1948

     /  November 8, 2017

    Corky its if we have known each other for ever,posting as one…

  9. Gezza

     /  November 8, 2017

    @ patu

    “Cashies.”
    1, Tax evasion or tax avoidance?
    2. How common do you reckon it is?
    3. What’s NZF’s stand on tax evasion?
    4. Wonder what Grant’s going to do about it? Nats were working on it I think, but probably it’s an ongoing IRD project.

    Personally I don’t think they can ever stop it entirely – I can’t recall getting a tradie to do a cashie job off hand – but I must’ve at some stage.

    • patupaiarehe

       /  November 8, 2017

      1. Avoidance
      2. Very common. In my case, it doesn’t usually involve cash, just a box of beer, which is put in the staffroom fridge, for all to enjoy.
      3. They concern themselves with bigger matters, such as the ‘winebox enquiry’. Chasing companies who move millions between juristictions, is far more lucrative than chasing tradies who live ‘week to week’.
      4. Sweet FA

      • Gezza

         /  November 8, 2017

        Trades are an area where I couldn’t figure out whether there would be many Labour voters or not. Maybe where the tradespersons are employees of firms or manufacturing companies, like you seem to be. But most of those I’ve had contact with in recent years are independent operators – like plumbers & electricians. They’re running their own businesses.

        I’ve only had one in the last 10 years offer to come back and do a job for “just the readies” and he was a Brit gasfitter who was rough & careless and scratched the front panel of my gas stove during installation. He gave me some crap about the gas flow rate that didn’t check out with the gas supplier & didn’t need to come back anyway, so no way.

        But the other thing is my bro in law started out as a car mechanic. He often helped us out with work on our cars, sometimes used his employers garage during working hours if it was ok with his boss. All we ever paid for was any parts.

        • patupaiarehe

           /  November 8, 2017

          In engineering G, ‘cashies’ are hard to hide from the taxman. Steel is expensive, & my employer won’t have ‘a bar’ of it. He has too much to lose if he were to be ‘caught out’. Anything that involves more than 15 minutes of work goes “thru’ the books”. Anything less, is done at my discretion. And it NEVER involves money. We refer to payment as ‘cylindrical green currency tokens’… 😉

          • patupaiarehe

             /  November 8, 2017

            I’ll give you an example. A few Saturdays back, a guy ‘rocked up’ to the workshop, with a bent drawbar on his trailer, & wanted it straightened immediately, for $50 cash. I told him that we don’t accept cash on weekends, but that Countdown up the road is selling Tui for $30 a box. I suggested that he leave his trailer with us, and take a few minutes to ‘reconsider his offer’.
            He saved himself $20, and the boys enjoyed a cold one, after spending their Saturday morning at work. A happy result, for all involved…