Greens confirm CPTPP sideline opposition

The Green Party has confirmed “strong opposition” to the newly renamed Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

Golriz Ghahraman, who was recently appointed as trade spokesperson, put out a Green Party statement on TPPA

The Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand maintains its strong opposition to the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA).

Curiously the Greens (this statement looks certain to have been written for Ghahraman by the party) are not referring to the new name, CPTPP.

“The Green Party has long opposed the TPPA. The new proposed deal, which came out of the weekend’s talks, still contains key ISDS concessions to corporations that put our democracy at risk, so our position remains the same,” said Green Party trade spokesperson Golriz Ghahraman.

Our democracy is no more at risk than it was last week, last month or last year.

Continued anti-corporation rhetoric makes greens sound anti-business. Greens give the impression that they are only prepared to deal with perfect socialist countries.

“We support fair trade that brings real benefit to all New Zealanders – not trade deals that put our rights and our Government’s ability to legislate to protect our people and our environment at risk.

“ISDS mechanisms are a particular threat to environmental protections, with 85% of ISDS cases being brought by corporations focused on exploiting the environment and natural resources.

I don’t think there has ever been an ISDS case brought against New Zealand. They are seen as very low risk.

“The Green Party will be seeking to introduce new measures that require all trade agreements in the future to be part of the solution to climate change, global and local inequality and the protection of human rights.

Seeking idealistic perfection – the Greens are yet to learn that pragmatism is an essential of being in effective government.

“Standing in opposition to the TPPA does not make a difference to our relationship with Labour. Indeed it is a sign of the strength of that relationship that we can respectfully disagree on an important issue like the TPPA but still get on with the business of government.

This is safe symbolic opposition knowing that National will support Labour in enabling the CPTPP.

“We made it clear to Labour in negotiations that we cannot support the TPPA, and they understand our policy difference.

There is no change in stance from ““We made it clear to Labour in negotiations that we cannot support the TPPA” despite Jacinda Ardern claiming the agreement was now “damned sight better” than it had been before changes made in parallel to the APEC meeting in Vietnam.

“We will continue to use our position in Government to fight for better trade agreements that protect the interests of people and the planet, not just corporations,” said Ms Ghahraman.

Framing the TPP as people versus corporations is simplistic and grossly inaccurate. Trade agreements benefit New Zealand exporters, and some of the largest, like Fonterra, are producer owned cooperatives. There are also many small business exporters (I work for one), and whether large or small exporters employ many New Zealanders.

Sure this shows the Greens sticking to their principles – when it is safe and suits them.

Not supporting Labour on the CPTPP and leaving it to National is MMP in action, but it sets a precedent that could further weaken the Green position on the government sidelines.

Will the Greens just not support the CPTPP, or will they be actively involved in campaigning against it as they have been in the past?

Not voting with Labour is one thing, but campaigning against their major partner in government is a bigger risk.

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36 Comments

  1. Alloytoo

     /  November 14, 2017

    If the Greens were serious about poverty they would support trade agreements.

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  2. Corky

     /  November 14, 2017

    ”Seeking idealistic perfection – the Greens are yet to learn that pragmatism is an essential of being in effective government.”

    It’s also an essential for hooking pragmatic voters who live in the real world. It seems the Greens are yet to learn their lesson Metiria left them.

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    • Zedd

       /  November 14, 2017

      @corky

      another extremist comment..
      btw; remind us who you voted for ? (another grain of salt, to swallow) 😀

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      • Corky

         /  November 14, 2017

        ”Another extremist comment..”

        Lol.

        I didn’t vote. Did you vote for this mess? Maybe a little work on your IQ?

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    • robertguyton

       /  November 14, 2017

      Yet they are in, and National/Act are out – go figure???

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  3. Good on tThe Greens. Principles. They stick to them. I understand the confusion here, of those who support parties that have “flexible” principles. Or none whatsoever. 🙂

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    • Zedd

       /  November 14, 2017

      good onya RG

      The Greens are NOT the ‘left wing of Labour’ & NZF are not the ‘right’ of them.. they are all seperate parties in coalition/C&S arrangements (GOVT.) they may not all agree on everything, but they will be prepared to negotiate, in ALL their interests;

      unlike previous Natz govt., who just stamped down their opponents & ‘partners’ (UF,ACT, Maori) to show their ‘know it all’/fascist agenda 😦

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    • David

       /  November 14, 2017

      Hey genius you live in one of the most export dependent nations in the world explain why free trade is a bad thing. If you export a steak to Japan you pay 400% tax to their government explain why that is a good thing.

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      • Zedd

         /  November 14, 2017

        suck it up David.. we all have a point of view. 😀
        btw; not sure which of us you were replying to ? ‘Hey genius’

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        • David

           /  November 14, 2017

          Not you Zedd. i just cant get my head around someone wanting NZ to become poorer and have less opportunities where they want more money and opportunities for the less well off.

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        • robertguyton

           /  November 14, 2017

          It’s Corky (I think).

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    • David

       /  November 14, 2017

      “Principles. They stick to them. ”

      It’s easy to stick to these principles when you have absolutely no power to change the outcome.

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  4. David

     /  November 14, 2017

    The Greens get away with it because lefty journalists don’t likecto call them out on their stance. Why would you stick a tarrif or increase the cost to the poorest consumers.

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    • robertguyton

       /  November 14, 2017

      The Greens signal consistently and have principles that they keep to; it should come as no surprise when they do as they said they would. It takes a lot of getting used to, I know.

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      • David

         /  November 14, 2017

        What is the principle?

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      • David

         /  November 14, 2017

        “The Greens signal consistently and have principles that they keep to; it should come as no surprise when they do as they said they would. ”

        Is the principle no to free trade?

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  November 14, 2017

          There is no principle involved, only stupidity.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  November 14, 2017

            Labour’s principle: exploit stupidity – voters’ and Greens’.

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            • Zedd

               /  November 14, 2017

              still ‘in denial AW’.. time to accept; ‘the loony Left’ (as you constantly call them/’us’) are NOW in Govt.

              Dont be such a SORE LOSER ?! 🙂
              Its called acceptance of REALITY ! 😀

            • robertguyton

               /  November 14, 2017

              The taste of sour grapes must be beginning to pall by now, Alan, surely !

            • Zedd

               /  November 14, 2017

              btw AW; WE had to put up with 9 LOOOOOOOONG years.. just hope you dont have to ‘suffer’ as much 😦

              I had a red beard in 2008, its all turned GRAY now !! 😀 😀

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  November 14, 2017

              Squawking in unison doesn’t make your drivel meaningful, you two.

              I have a trade principle: let individuals decide for themselves whether they want to do it – not half-witted, ignorant ideologues, bureaucrats and politicians.

              You have nothing except noise and nonsense.

            • Zedd

               /  November 14, 2017

              ditto AW.. ‘Squawking in unison doesn’t make your drivel meaningful’ (collective of Smug Tories)
              😀

            • robertguyton

               /  November 14, 2017

              Collective of Smug Tories – CoST – that’s very good, Zedd: they know the cost of everything, but the vlaue on nothing 🙂

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  November 14, 2017

              As I said, noise and nonsense. A waste of space.

            • Zedd

               /  November 14, 2017

              @RG

              Yes I heard Ms Logie use that in her speech (quote from Oscar wild ?)

              I still think most of them are ‘in denial’ about the FACT they LOST the election; watching Q-time today, under speaker Rt Hon Mallard (LOL) 😀

            • robertguyton

               /  November 14, 2017

              Alan – just a thought; if you’d voted Green, you’d be a winner now!!!
              How close you were to triumph!
              No wonder you’re peeved; backed the losers! Dammit!
              (Feeling for you)

  5. Zedd

     /  November 14, 2017

    just wondering… is there 2 ‘Davids’; pink/blue squares
    both of ‘like mind’ ? :/

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  6. Fight4NZ

     /  November 14, 2017

    Does NZ benefit from a deal were a few local companies make $5m or $10m due to better access while the govt ends up paying out $100’s of millions to large international conglomerates who successfully sue for loss of future profits?
    Or has that been largely neutralised as Labour now claim? Dr Kelsey says no.
    Why are these things even in such agreements?

    Reply
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