United Future disbanding

There are a number of news reports that the United Future Party has agreed to disband. They were already in terminal decline, and Peter Dunne’s retirement effectively delivered the party’s last rites.

Damian Light made a decent attempt to take over the leadership but with little support and no money it was a hopeless task.

A letter announcing the disbanding is being reported on and linked to despite being clearly headed ‘Press embargo until 10:00am Tuesday 14 November 2017‘.

Can the media be trusted on anything these days?

United Future has been one of the most successful small parties, having been a part of several Labour and National governments but has been in what turned out to be irreversible decline for a decade.

The prohibitively high MMP threshold will make it very difficult for any new small parties to find a way in to Parliament.

Millions of dollars of funding didn’t help the Conservatives, the Internet Party (and Mana), and Garteh Morgan’s TOP, although people were also a problem for al of those parties.

Unless the threshold problem is addressed the only possibility of seeing any new parties in Parliament is if they are led by existing MPs who split of larger parties.

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  1. Corky

     /  November 14, 2017

    Are we looking at the ultimate fate for NZ FIRST and ACT. Probably.

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  2. Tipene

     /  November 14, 2017

    United Future had a future, until Peter Dunne turned on the constituency that got him into Parliament with a number of MP’s.

    Many of those ex UFNZ voters eventually landed within the Conservative Party, but then a number of these voters lost their bottle in 2014, and defaulted to voting for National & NZ First.

    In 2017, NZ First was the recipient of some the Conservative 2014 fallout vote, only to have Winston head left with Labour.

    Now, the fiscally and socially conservative voter has nowhere to go, and they have no-one to blame but themselves for their voting choice cowardice in 2014.

    I don’t think the MMP threshold is an issue – it’s a lack of voter courage that is the issue.

    Because when they are standing in the orange box, marker pen in hand, most will opt for “more of the same” and that is exactly what they get.

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    • Gezza

       /  November 14, 2017

      I dunno. Is it that simple? Once you get beyond a certain number of parties with detailed policies, nit just one or two key ones, it starts to get difficult to keep track of all the different policies & I wonder whether voters wondering whether too many parties creates too much uncertainty about what an eventual coaltion government’s actual policy programme might be is an unspoken factor in their sticking with the main party choices?

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      • Successful politics is more personality than policy anyway. Voters want to have confidence MPs will make good decisions on what is in front of them in Parliament regardless of their theoretical policies.

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      • Tipene

         /  November 14, 2017

        Having been on the inside of 6 different political parties – yep, it really is that simple.

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    • Patzcuaro

       /  November 14, 2017

      Looks like Dunne was trying to appeal to both liberals and Christian conservatives and that is not a match made in heaven.

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  3. Alan Wilkinson

     /  November 14, 2017

    Did UF have any policy other than to keep Dunne in Govt and refuse to reform the RMA?

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  4. Corky

     /  November 14, 2017

    It’s my honest opinion if Colin Craig had kept his thoughts pure the Conservatives would have been in government this time around.

    That said, there are many minor parties and movements who need to get together and sort something out. Winston is looking terrible at the moment, and will probably be gone at the next election.

    Here’s one example:

    http://www.100days.co.nz/

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  5. Gezza

     /  November 14, 2017

    Damn. I was tossing up whether to stand for UF in Ohariu next time. Would anybody here have voted for me? I think I would have been superb at Question Time.

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    • Gezza

       /  November 14, 2017

      (A lot of my questions would probably have been bird or eel-related – somehow)

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      • Gezza

         /  November 14, 2017

        Lurchy, I would have been happy to raise any questions that were dog-related on behalf of constituents – just saying)

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    • Gezza

       /  November 14, 2017

      🤔 Hmm. If we extrapolate those upticks across the electorate’s entire voting population, I mighta got in? 😎

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    • artcroft

       /  November 14, 2017

      And new governments rise on every Monday and collapse on the following Thursday. Exciting? Yes.
      Stupid? Very.

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    • Zedd

       /  November 14, 2017

      weren’t you a UF candidate PG.. Dn Nth? 🙂

      I saw a news item post-election, saying most ‘minor parties’ seemed to be imploding, mentioning; Maori, Conserv., TOP, ALCP, UF, Act. But I think only UF has admitted they are folding.. we shall see.

      MMP will continue, getting stronger.. but NZ needs to reject all the media banter/CRAP, that promotes a FPP agenda, to do so !

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      • Blazer

         /  November 14, 2017

        it will be a very sad day for Pete George then…a floating voter who just lost an option ..dear to his..heart.

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        • Gezza

           /  November 14, 2017

          The floating voters are the thinkers. They’re ones who’re often the deciders of an election.

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        • Not really sad. It has been inevitable for years. UF haven’t been a serious option for a party vote for a while now.

          I think most floating voters just look at what options are available in each election and make their decisions.

          It’s sad that options generally are diminishing.

          It was sad to see the Maori Party lose their voice in Parliament. If those who support parties still Parliament don’t care then the shrinkage is likely to continue.

          It would have been very sad if Greens had missed the threshold, and there was a real; chance of that. Similar for NZ First.

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  7. robertguyton

     /  November 14, 2017

    Too sad for words. Bye bye.

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  8. Threshold of 2%, lets channel the disenfranchised into some actual representation. Its possibly part of the low voter turnout issue. Remeber even the cannabis party got 2% once upon a time.

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    • Zedd

       /  November 14, 2017

      I agree SLB, 2% would see better Representation, by a great cross section
      btw; I think ALCP only got 1.7% (highest) ?
      but with a good effort in 2020 ??

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      • Gezza

         /  November 14, 2017

        ACLP – Which way would they vote on economic & labour relations issues, minimum pay, welfare benefit levels, tax, sentencing for violent crime?

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    • Gezza

       /  November 14, 2017

      I’m inclined to think the low voter turnout might reflect the IQ & / or interest & / or alcohol levels of those concerned, & that lowering the threshold allow even more parties to members into The House would quite probably make either no difference or put even more of them off voting?

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