New Zealand lose to Peru

New Zealand’s All Whites had a praised 0-0 home draw in the first leg of a Football World Cup qualifier, but were undone 0-2 by Peru in Lima. Given the big difference in world rankings this was creditable albeit disappointing loss for New Zealand.

It was always going to be difficult for the All Whites. They don’t have the benefit of playing much together – whoever happens to be available are collected from around the world not long before big games. This is far from ideal for team building.

Peru was ecstatic, it will mean their first world cup appearance for three decades. Reports suggest it was a deserved win for them. Good on them.

The All Whites are likely to continue to struggle in a very competitive football world, with our best players spread around the globe. They are ranked currently 122 – Peru is 10, so a two nil loss doesn’t seem too bad.

 

22 Comments

  1. Strong For Life

     /  November 17, 2017

    Panama, a country with a similar population to New Zealand, has qualified for the World Cup finals. If a small country like that can do it there is no reason why NZ cannot. Soccer in NZ needs to raise its game, lift players skills so they can compete on a world stage.

    • duperez

       /  November 17, 2017

      Maybe Panama puts a lot of its sports eggs in the soccer basket. With baseball it’s a big sport there. Panama’s three medals at Olympics in total, (two bronzes), all in athletics and just the one since 1948 might suggest different emphasis and cultural factors at play.

      New Zealand has 117 medals at Olympics in 14 different sports. Apparently in New Zealand there are sports too other than soccer which have high profile and participation with cricket, the rugby codes, hockey and so on. Basketball apparently is one of their bigger sports yet New Zealand is higher ranked internationally.

      The desire and push to compete on the world stage are worthy goals for our soccer people and through its history the sport has sought to “raise its game and lift players skills.”

      • PDB

         /  November 17, 2017

        Only a complete change in style away from hoofing the ball to a single big fella up front will improve New Zealand football.

        Our players are too one-dimensional hence we have big strikers with no speed and small quick players with no strength to hold onto the ball. We should look at becoming more of an attacking threat and promoting/ moulding players that can fit such a system.

        The 1981-82 All Whites was a one-off for this country of pretty decent players, the odd excellent one in key positions & a team spirit far stronger than the sum of its parts including a future world-class player up-front in Rufer.

      • Strong For Life

         /  November 17, 2017

        Panamanian athlete Irving Saladino won the Long Jump gold medal at the Beijing Olympics, he was also world champion in 2007. Panama only had 10 athletes at the Rio Olympics so not surprising they did not achieve much.

  2. Blazer

     /  November 17, 2017

    NZ struggle against Vanuatu.

  3. PDB

     /  November 17, 2017

    Won’t be a problem soon as NZ will have direct access due to an expansion of the world cup which will further weaken an event which seems to want representation from all corners of the world at the expense of quality and having the very best football teams in the world playing for the cup.

    The reality is that crap awful teams on present form like NZ, Aussie, Saudi Arabia and Panama shouldn’t get anywhere near the world cup, especially as Italy, Holland etc miss out.

    • duperez

       /  November 17, 2017

      Italy and Holland can’t get near the World Cup and miss out because on present form they are simply not good enough too. They did not win games they needed to win.

      http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/europe/index.html

      • PDB

         /  November 17, 2017

        You miss the point – Holland and Italy would easily beat teams that are at the 2018 world cup like Aussie and Panama. They failed to make it due to the strength of the European pools which are far stronger than that elsewhere in the world.

        The ‘world cup’ takes too much chaff that downgrades the quality of the tournament.

        • duperez

           /  November 17, 2017

          I get the point. The World Cup might take too much chaff that downgrades the quality of the tournament. They don’t take all the chaff – Italy and Holland won’t be there.

  4. Zedd

     /  November 17, 2017

    Its good to see NZ finally taking to ‘Football’.. when i was a kid (fresh from UK 1970s) I was told ‘We only play Rugby football here.. ‘Soccer’ is a pooftahs game !’
    the times they are a-changin’.. the facts are on TV.. 🙂

    • PDB

       /  November 17, 2017

      What hasn’t changed is an old Pommy attitude in NZ football of ‘get all the men behind the ball and hoof it up to the one tall burly bloke actually in the attacking half and hope for the best’.

  5. duperez

     /  November 17, 2017

    Finally taking to it? One report had 225 teams in NZ in 1911, (not sure whether they had women and kids’ teams back then), representative games before that year and the Chatham Cup competition starting in 1923.

    NZ played Australia in front of 10,000 and 23,000 at the NZ v Canada game in 1927. The Canadians even travelled to play in Whangarei in front of 1000.

    Zoom in on these:
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/auckland-star/1927/7/25/8
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/new-zealand-herald/1927/7/25/6

    Finally taking to it?

  6. Did anyone see the Herald article about the less than edifying aspects of this game like lasers being shone into the Kiwis’ faces ?

    • PDB

       /  November 17, 2017

      Football is life or death over in those countries Kitty………..literally

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9s_Escobar

      • Corky

         /  November 17, 2017

        As I stated before the game, the All Whites would be ill prepared for the South American temperament.

        Did they even stop to find out about their venue? Past crowd behaviour etc. Doesn’t look like they did there home work.

        I personally would have had a dumby team go first. I would tried to have stayed out of town.

        There’s so much our team could have done. Poor planning. Heads must roll.

    • Strong For Life

       /  November 17, 2017

      All Whites well beaten… lasers, fireworks and rabid Peruvian fans were not reasons they lost; they were outplayed and the best team won.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  November 17, 2017

        I hope that lasers were not used in the hope of blinding the Kiwis.

  7. Fight4NZ

     /  November 17, 2017

    I see the usual suspects can’t even make an informed comment on football.
    NZ has a couple of players in English also ran teams and they were part lame. Most of the rest experience defeat on a weekly basis in the A-league. So a draw and 2-0 loss in serious adversity against a highly skilled opposition is a very good result.
    Anyone involved in football will know the massive changes to player development in the past decade or 2. The skill levels in today’s youth players was unheard of not so long ago. In the next 10 years I think you will surprised at the lift in results.
    Yes minnows do get chances to get to the World Cup. And it is the world’s most popular sport as a result. And the tournaments are still won by the very best teams. By far the biggest single sport event on the planet. So I guess they won’t be taking up any of the advice to the contrary given here. Just another case where the narrow neo-liberal mentality is found wanting.

    • patupaiarehe

       /  November 17, 2017

      Interestingly enough F4NZ, one of the ‘boys’ at work knocked off an hour early to watch the game. He thought it was a good match, even though the result wasn’t to his satisfaction. I told him to buy a lotto ticket, the odds are much worse, but the results a lot better. He called me a c-nt! I’m guessing that the odds weren’t in his favour… 😀

      • Fight4NZ

         /  November 17, 2017

        Sounds like friendly enough advice, your boy seems a bit highly strung. Never mind I’ll take you up on it.🤞

        • patupaiarehe

           /  November 17, 2017

          Nah, he’s a good lad. I wouldn’t waste your money on lotto, my ticket is a sure winner… 😛