Media watch – Sunday

26 November 2017

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    • Missy

       /  November 26, 2017

      Blazer, I agree with you! Team NZ should call their bluff and go with the UAE or Russia citing Govt reluctance to provide funding support. Can’t see that being popular in NZ, might even hurt the Government. Though, must say I am surprised to see you suggest something that will probably get the Government negative publicity.

      • Blazer

         /  November 26, 2017

        Rich men indulging in a rich mans hobby…wanting to spend other peoples money as usual.

        • I’ve fixed that for you….. “Socialists indulging in idealistic dreaming……wanting to spend other peoples money as usual.”

          You are very welcome Boet

          • Blazer

             /  November 26, 2017

            the yachties are hardly ..socialists…

            • Of course they are….

              1- They want our money

              2 – They do nothing useful

              3 – And they are sure they are right

              ITS A DEFINITION OF A SOCIALIST!

              Wake up Blazer, you’re losing yourself…

    • NOEL

       /  November 26, 2017

      I wonder if there will be a push to expand the Auckland rating base like the RWC?
      Might need Hamilton and Whangarei for the total bill.

    • High Flying Duck

       /  November 26, 2017

      Rich men, bringing riches to NZ.
      The last 4 events have had hosting fees, and been incredibly successful for the host (barring SF which went with a disbursed village and cheaped out) but NZ thinks it should get the cup hosting for nothing and just reap the benefits.
      Staggeringly short sighted thinking by many who can’t see past their own envy.

      • Blazer

         /  November 26, 2017

        What absolute proof can you present to back up this success on a… CBA?

        • High Flying Duck

           /  November 26, 2017

          I can only point to the CBA’s done after the last Cups run in NZ and the Cup events run in other cities around the world. Bermuda were ecstatic with the results.

          From the PWC Bermuda report:

          “The forecast prepared during the bid process for the America’s Cup
          assumed a budget expense of $77.0 million and a total economic
          impact from the event of $242.2 million. The actual expenditures
          totaled $64.1 million, a saving of approximately $12.9 million. The
          total economic impact topped $336.4 million, an increase of $94.2
          million over expected outcomes and representing a 525% return
          on the investment”

          http://www.acbda.bm/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/PwCEconomicImpact2017.pdf

          http://www.acbda.bm/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Econ-Survey.pdf

          https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sailing-americas-newzealand/post-americas-cup-win-new-zealand-sails-toward-financial-rewards-idUSKBN19L0AX

          The whole viaduct area was brought into being through hosting big yachting events.

          I can also point to the known data about how much money super yachts bring into the economy when they visit. This from 2014:

          “The value the superyacht industry delivers to the New Zealand economy is significant because of its potential to inject high-spend across tourism and marine industries. For example, in 2013 it is estimated that there were 662 visiting yachts that sailed to New Zealand. Of these, roughly 35 superyachts brought approximately $185 million dollars of marine industry spend and $95 million dollars of tourism spend to the country.”

          And expected impact of the next cup if we host it:

          http://www.mbie.govt.nz/info-services/infrastructure-growth/americas-cup

          • Blazer

             /  November 26, 2017

            optimistic assumptions and guesses….if it is such a winner,why doesn’t the much vaunted private sector fund it instead of taxpayers?

            • High Flying Duck

               /  November 26, 2017

              Because the benefits accrue to the public & the public purse in taxation and infrastructure.
              There are private benefits but these are disbursed through Hotels, tourism operators, the marine industry, restaurants, bars – in other words it is very broad based.
              You asked for reports and then didn’t like what they said…so fall back to envy.

            • Blazer

               /  November 26, 2017

              as I said the ‘reports’ can not be measured accurately.The jolly seamen want about $118 million from the taxpayers ..apparently!Where will that go?Talk about ..buggery on the …high seas…hoist the ..jolly roger.Got a ‘I’d rather be sailing’..sticker on the rear window Duck?

            • High Flying Duck

               /  November 26, 2017

              The money goes into running the event and running the campaign.
              Heaven forbid, they may even make a dollar – it is after all a business.
              But it is a business that brings in big dollars, and more reliably than a David Beckham game, super cars in Hamilton or the 7’s (or 10’s).
              NZ appears to be a place where infrastructure is only put in place if there is an event pending that requires it.
              I hope they don’t Scrooge their way out of this and squander a great opportunity.
              They may not be able to measure “accurately”, but they can get pretty close in the direct benefits – as they have overseas. And the evidence is pretty compelling.

            • Blazer

               /  November 26, 2017

              $118 million to ‘run’ the event??Yeah ..right.

            • Blazer

               /  November 26, 2017

              ‘– it is after all a business.’…so corporate welfare is what is requested..yes!

            • High Flying Duck

               /  November 26, 2017

              you missed…”and run the campaign” in your snide comment.
              I also don’t think you understand trade.
              Team NZ provide a lucrative event and Auckland / NZ pay to host it so that they can reap the numerous benefits.
              It’s not like Team NZ have suddenly introduced this – it is the same as for every cup since Alinghi took it off us. There are apparently no shortage of bidders, which suggests others see the value.
              I know your philosophy is that the Government should only support those who cannot give back, but there is room for innovation, success and growth as well.
              Thankfully Labour are not so myopic and understand this. They have said they are making good progress in getting the Cup locked down for Auckland.

            • Blazer

               /  November 26, 2017

              ‘ There are apparently no shortage of bidders, ‘…says who..surely not those trying to extract 118 million from the NZ taxpayers!Shove it.

            • Blazer

               /  November 27, 2017

              The ‘ask’ from taxpayers is ludicrous…you could run 10 Melbourne Cups,including prizemoney for the sum they want.You could run a decade of NZ Golf Opens,and NZ tennis Opens,International F1 Race or Rally,so many events more popular than this travesty…its enough to make you..sick.

            • High Flying Duck

               /  November 27, 2017

              Feel free to throw up, but the benefits the Cup brings are far higher than 10 Golf opens that bring in sweet FA.
              And it is overseas reports saying there are other bidders wanting to host. Team NZ is wanting to stay in NZ, for obvious reasons and I’m sure the Government is taking advantage of that fact in negotiations.

  1. Alan Wilkinson

     /  November 26, 2017

    Both Stuff and the Herald have been doing more in depth articles lately. As a frequent critic of MSM quality it is only fair to recognise when they are doing good work:
    https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2017/11/under-fire/

  2. Zedd

     /  November 26, 2017

    I see on TV3 news, the latest edition of Natz ‘Dirty Politics’; bombarding the new ministers with written questions.
    They said that during the 1st month Natz were in power, (2008) they received about 600 written questions, from the opposition.. BUT Natz have asked over 6000, many are exact duplicates from different MPs just days apart !

    When asked about it, their spokesperson (Bridges) said ‘we are just holding them to account’ BUT the reporter said it looked more like SPAMMING.. jamming up their in-trays with inane, pointless drivel, just to make trouble ?! GO FIGURE, childish & petulant 😦

    • Ray

       /  November 26, 2017

      What they didn’t mention was that Trevor Mallard managed 7000 in one month, so it is hardly a new strategy.

    • Missy

       /  November 26, 2017

      I saw something about that, they listed all the questions to Chris Hipkins by Paul Goldsmith, wanting to know what events he went to on different days, in other words their calendars! If it is too difficult for the Government to pass over a copy of their calendars then there is a problem and we should be wondering about how competent the Government are.

    • Fight4NZ

       /  November 26, 2017

      Yes no sign of petty sore loser behaviour from a bunch of pisspants at all.

  3. Corky

     /  November 26, 2017

    What! Do you want the Nats to go easy on those SJWs? The Nats want to be in power come the next election. It’s all about pressure, pressure and more pressure. Don’t lose it , son. Stay strong. Show this blog what you are made of. 😄

  4. PartisanZ

     /  November 30, 2017

    The next big event will “put New Zealand on the map” …