Media watch – Wednesday

29 November 2017

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  1. Blazer

     /  November 29, 2017

    Quoting John Key on integrity…..is setting a very low…bar…

    • High Flying Duck

       /  November 29, 2017

      And yet Jacinda is managing to Limbo underneath it with relative ease – she’s a natural!

  2. Missy

     /  November 29, 2017

    • Corky.

       /  November 29, 2017

      If that is proven correct, Golriz is finished as a politician. Whether she goes or stays.

    • Blazer

       /  November 29, 2017

      they can still be valid memories of the war,whether or not they happened in ..Mashad.

      • Missy

         /  November 29, 2017

        But just not hers as she claims.

        • Blazer

           /  November 29, 2017

          sure they can…she was a young child…I have vivid memories of the moon landing…and guess what..I wasn’t..there.

          • Missy

             /  November 29, 2017

            Before giving her the benefit of the doubt Blazer, read the whole article.

            https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/13-04-2017/i-escaped-middle-east-war-for-a-new-life-in-nz-we-should-not-be-fanning-the-flames-of-violence-today/

            It begins: “I lived under American (and American sponsored) missiles for the first eight years of my life.”

            She talks about her friends falling silent due to the physical toll of living under explosions.

            The whole piece is written as a first person experience, the title begins ‘I escaped a Middle East war…’

            Now, I do not doubt that the war would have had an effect on her, it would have been on the news, she would have known people impacted, but if what Hamish Price claims – that her city had no bombs dropped on it – is true, then there is a problem with how she is presenting herself, and this will be the second case of her misrepresenting her past to come up in the matter of days, and that is a problem.

            • Blazer

               /  November 29, 2017

              they still had T.V and radio there Missy.A survivor of the London blitz could have vivid memories via media for instance…,especially a young one.

            • Missy

               /  November 29, 2017

              Blazer if you were able to read and comprehend what I wrote correctly you will have noted that I acknowledged that she would have been impacted as it would have been on the news.

              However, the article SHE wrote, is written in the first person, and with phrasing and wording that deliberately talks about her friends living under explosions – friends she would (as an 8 year old) have been at school with, played with, that is they would have lived in the SAME CITY as her.

              If what Hamish Price says is true, then at worst she has outright lied, at best someone (whether her or an editor) ensured that the article was written in such a way that it presented as her personal experiences which is misleading. If it was her, then it makes her dishonest, if it was someone else, it makes her sloppy and lazy in not ensuring it was correctly written, or naive in not seeing how it was presented and would be read.

              This is not a good start for her at all. She needs to be more careful about written information about her is presented. As a lawyer it is pretty poor form from her.

  3. Blazer

     /  November 29, 2017

    as I said..I (FIRST PERSON)have vivid memories of the ..moon landing.

    • High Flying Duck

       /  November 29, 2017

      I get the feeling you have first person memories of many space based happenings. Did the probes hurt Blazer?

      • Blazer

         /  November 29, 2017

        you are getting better all the time…they only hurt when I…return to..earth.

  4. Zedd

     /  November 29, 2017

    I watched a AM Show (TV3) they gave a shoutout to the mayor & folks on Roxburgh, that had a heavy flash flood this week.
    D Garner gave the line of the day “If anyone can, then Cadogan can” (the name of the Mayor) who had been on TV quite a bit & Duncan seem to have noticed ! 🙂

  5. High Flying Duck

     /  November 29, 2017

    Finally, a decent rebuttal of the speech given by Gallagher – instead of the ad hom knee jerk attack the speaker rubbish that come out directly after it.
    The best way to defeat inaccurate arguments is by using a coherent and factual counter argument to attack the message, not the messenger:

    Experts deconstruct Sir William Gallagher’s Treaty of Waitangi claims

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/99318500/experts-deconstruct-sir-william-gallaghers-treaty-of-waitangi-claims

    And if the rebuttal is inaccurate I would hope to hear a counter, rather than denigration of the people involved.

    • PDB

       /  November 29, 2017

      “I’m guessing that William Gallagher will only ever have read the English version of the Treaty, which does say that Māori hereby cede sovereignty. But Te Tiriti o Waitangi doesn’t say that, in fact it affirms that Māori retain their rangatiratanga.” 

      The Maori version was a direct translation of the English version, Maori didn’t have a word meaning ‘sovereignty’ so the next closest word in their language was used and the context of such was explained in detail to all the tribes. As a result some tribes didn’t sign the treaty as they didn’t want to cede sovereignty. The ones that did sign fully understood the implications of doing so. ‘Partnership’ is a modern term not found in any of the treaty texts.

      But Gallagher is wrong in suggesting Maori, in cases where land was unfairly/ unlawfully taken from them, should not be compensated for that loss through treaty claims.