Media watch – Wednesday

6 December 2017

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  1. PartisanZ

     /  December 6, 2017

    Shine on you crazy, crazy diamond … Peter Lyons, NZ Herald – ‘The cult of growth and manic materialism’. This guy aces it in a few sentences!

    “In 1930 John Maynard Keynes wrote The Economic Possibilities for our Grandchildren. It was an optimistic piece.

    He foresaw an affluent future in which leisure rather than work would define our lives. The economic system would eventually allow people greater freedom to choose how they used their time”.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11953817

    • PartisanZ

       /  December 6, 2017

      Teacher of economics: *sarc* – “Formal learning must be quantified and career orientated from an early age. Corporate buzzwords such as smart goals, KPIs and achievement objectives permeate the formal learning environment, even in pre-schools.

      The thought of learning for fun and enjoyment is a marginal concept, a luxury for the very young and the very old. It is important to impose business concepts on formal learning. Young people must learn to be focused and goal driven”

      Keynes, of course, will be remembered long after corporate reactionaries like Von Mises, Rothbard and Friedman are long forgotten, consigned to their place in HIStory of having ‘successfully’ delayed human advancement by 30 – 40 years! Well done guys.

      • PartisanZ

         /  December 6, 2017

        Regrettably, a large proportion of the population are so trapped into “making ends meet”, generating stress-related health problems, consuming licit drugs, polluting-up the environment – physical and psychic – and dealing with other people’s issues rather than their own, they’ll probably never read Lyon’s excellent opinion or understand how they’ve been hoodwinked.

        • duperez

           /  December 6, 2017

          Seeing the good news lately about automation taking over more and more fills me with wonder.
          Like wondering that if all the workers are at home not working because machines and robots are doing the work, where is their money to come from to buy all the stuff the machines and robots are producing?

          • PartisanZ

             /  December 6, 2017

            Precisely the capitalist industrial dilemma. Machines should have been taxed all along maybe, and taxes redistributed more compassionequably? [new word # 113]

            But if it comes to pass as predicted and automation takes over majorly, there’s your argument for a citizen’s dividend or UBI right there.

            Naturally this won’t stop people working – because work is natural – but we’ll maybe need to considerably redefine “work”?

            Its current definition: “Paid employment – the highest aspiration of humanity” is already failing rather badly.

            • PartisanZ

               /  December 6, 2017

              Let the machines do much of the mundane work, and pay for human beings to reach for higher aspirations …

  2. Corky

     /  December 6, 2017

    Trump is on a roll. Economy booming. Various bills passing through the house. Muslim ban in some form coming into effect. Now he’s opened up conservation land for mining in Utah. Like he said, it’s not for pencil pushers in Washington to decide local issues. It’s for locals to decide. Boy, that ain’t the Democrat way.

    I would, however, like him to move on inner city problems. If he can ace that, he serves another term as president. He should remember he received more black support then pundits had predicted. Black support tired of the Democrats casual racism. Their taking for granted of black support, then forgetting they exist once elected.

    • PartisanZ

       /  December 6, 2017

      Shouldn’t that be “Rump is on a Troll”?

      ” … he’s opened up conservation land for mining in Utah” Wow! Laudable! And it simultaneously deals with a long-standing Native American First Nations’ “problem”.

      By “inner city problems” I guess you mean the problem of Blacks in the inner cities?

      Glad to hear you’re happy you got your “Muslim ban”. Who’ll run all the 7/11 stores?

      • Corky

         /  December 6, 2017

        You tapped out, remember.

        • PartisanZ

           /  December 6, 2017

          That was yesterday …

          How’s the WALL building going?

          To the tune of ‘Windmills of Your Mind’ …

          “Like the barriers you find … in the regress of your mind”

  3. Corky

     /  December 6, 2017

    Can you believe this prat? And to add insult to injury, this disingenuous prick was hosting an event called:’24 hours of reality” One of the truly great charlatans of our time.

    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/345502/gore-to-pm-you-re-a-breath-of-fresh-air

    • Pickled Possum

       /  December 6, 2017

      Can you believe this prat?
      Well; Hell No I don’t believe you.
      Scroll or Troll
      That is the question.

  4. Blazer

     /  December 6, 2017

    HFD made a very compelling case for the America’s Cup to be run offshore the other day.It is a no risk propsition for taxpayers and is very appealing given….
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11953679

    • High Flying Duck

       /  December 6, 2017

      I know you’re a miserable git who hates anything positive – why else would you back Labour – but to correct your abysmal attempt at baiting…

      The America’s Cup is fantastic for NZ no matter where it is held (and should be celebrated as such). And yet overseas benefits pale into insignificance against the results when held in NZ:

      From the 2003 defence in Auckland

      Topline Results

      1. The America’s Cup had a major positive economic impact for Auckland and New Zealand.

      2. This study has identified $523m of net additional spending in the New Zealand economy
      generated by the event over the 2000-03 period, which would not have occurred otherwise.

      3. This expenditure generated $529m of value added in the New Zealand economy, making a
      significant contribution to national GDP.

      4. It generated $450m of value added in the Auckland economy – a significant contribution to
      regional GDP.

      5. The Cup-related expenditure also had a substantial positive effect on employment in the
      economy, sustaining the equivalent of 9,360 full time years of employment at the national
      level, and 8,180 full time years in the Auckland economy.

      6. These findings are based on extensive in-depth and survey research among the main
      spending sectors, and the main sectors involved in meeting the additional demand. The
      expenditure information has been analysed, using comprehensive models of the regional and
      national economies, to identify contributions to value added (GDP) and employment. The
      measurement identifies direct value added, and the flow-on (indirect and induced) effects as
      expenditure passes through the economy.

      7. The major expenditure was contributed by:
      Syndicates ($171m)
      Superyachts and other yachts ($155m)
      Syndicate communities ($53m)
      International visitors ($49m)
      Regatta organisers ($29m)
      Media ($28m)
      Sponsors and businesses ($21m)
      Cruise ships and other vessels ($11m)

      8. The main sectors to benefit from the additional demand were:
      Marine sector ($143m)
      Accommodation and hospitality ($92m)
      Retail and entertainment ($132m)
      Business and household services ($48m).
      Transport ($48m)

      9. In addition to these tangible GDP and employment effects, the America’s Cup event generated greater international awareness of New Zealand – as a tourism destination and a place to do business – and helped consolidate the reputation of the New Zealand marine sector.

      http://www.majorevents.govt.nz/news-latest/documents-and-images-library/The%20Economic%20Impact%20of%20the%202003%20America2019s%20Cup%20Defence.pdf

      • Blazer

         /  December 6, 2017

        those figures are massaged’ and you know it.Was the recent Rugby League world Cup sponsered by taxpayers?It stimulated plenty of spending!I have noticed a change for the worse in your posts lately.Instead of discussing issues you resort to sometimes blatant personal invective.Please desist…I am a very ..sensitive person.The overwhelming number of NZ’ers would only see the races on T.V anyway,so the offshore no risk,guaranteed win is the ..way to ..go.

        • High Flying Duck

           /  December 6, 2017

          It is about the money brought in to the country, rather than the domestic impact.

          But when the Cup was in NZ the fan zones were packed out and the infrastructure of downtown Auckland was vastly improved for the better and led to a vibrant waterfront.

          Re the invective, I will disagree and point out you have been making a few disturbing comments lately – to Gezza, to me about ‘being watched” and to Mefro about vivisection of all things…are you sure you are mentally well?

          • Blazer

             /  December 6, 2017

            you were the first to post..’we are being watched’…’ruthlessly sharp and detailed criticism or analysis.
            plural noun: vivisections
            “the vivisection of America’s seamy underbelly”…..try..harder.

            • High Flying Duck

               /  December 6, 2017

              You’ll have to refresh me as to when I mentioned “being watched”.

              And you posted to Mefro that “vivisection is…ugly” – with no context.

              As you were…

          • Blazer

             /  December 6, 2017

            the fact that you did not understand what ‘vivisection’ means in context is your..problem.As for your powers of..recall…no surprise..there.

            • High Flying Duck

               /  December 6, 2017

              There was no context. It was a complete non sequitur – hence Kitty’s comment telling Mefro that you just post try and unsettle people – I am back to wondering about your mental state again.

            • Blazer

               /  December 6, 2017

              your limited powers of recall are once again exposed..the dialogue and my comments pertained to the thrashing mefro was giving PDB..again(context)…Kitty frequently inserts herself into discussion she knows nothing about,(often an irrelevant anecdote).You can choose to accept Kitty’s conclusions if you wish.As for mental states…you should check for the onset of..dementia…you are displaying some worrying…signals.Good day to you and your recalcitrant nonsense.

            • High Flying Duck

               /  December 6, 2017

              If you thought that was a thrashing you are in worse condition than I thought. Seek help!

        • High Flying Duck

           /  December 6, 2017

          Rugby League World Cup:
          “Economic Development Minister Steven Joyce and Sport and Recreation Minister Jonathan Coleman today announced up to $1.35 million will be invested, through the Major Events Development Fund (MEDF), to help New Zealand co-host the Rugby League World Cup 2017 with Australia.”

          It’s almost like the Government actually benefits from these events being held in NZ.

          The report on the AC was not “massaged” at all. It just differs from your world view so you discount it.

          • PartisanZ

             /  December 6, 2017

            If they can’t survive as ‘free market’ competitive businesses in deregulated, economically reformed industries – or if they over-ambitiously over-stretch themselves – these so-called “professional” sports corporations obviously need and deserve government assistance and subsidies. They require Corporate Welfare to maintain their highest possible image, aspirations and standards.

            After all, they’re legally equivalent to ‘individuals’ are they not?

            • High Flying Duck

               /  December 6, 2017

              The “assistance” is always given on the basis of return to the Government.
              The RLWC would have brought some benefit, although not massive.
              The Yachting brings in large amounts due to the money involved in the sport, with the team sizes, its supporters, the ongoing spend through the marine industry and through the the super yacht factor, so deserves higher levels of Govt support – the returns are high.
              Golf also brings in good returns, although more nebulous as it is more through overseas TV coverage than direct spending.
              Where it gets a little controversial is where the support is given purely (or even mainly) for the sake of bringing vibrant events to the country.
              Victoria in Australia spend huge sums ensuring they keep the F1, the Australian Tennis Open and other events. This is treated as a brand investment more than in the expectation of monetary returns – although there are some.
              Not sure any of it could be considered Corporate Welfare along the lines of the Callaghan Fund which tries to “pick winners”.

  5. Pickled Possum

     /  December 6, 2017

    Can you believe this prat?
    Well; Hell No I don’t believe you.
    Scroll or Troll
    That is the question.