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  1. Pickled Possum

     /  December 8, 2017

    On the 8th Dec 1966 US & USSR sign treaty to prohibit nuclear weapons in outer space.
    With 109 countries signing the treaty.
    The treaty handle is;
    The Outer Space Treaty, formally the Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty#List_of_parties

    North and South Korea have signed ratifying the treaty. So The Korean Kid with the bad hair cut isn’t allowed to start a nuke war, te treaty says it so. Some one should remind him of his commitment in signing that particular piece of paper.

    Lateness new 7 hours ago;
    North Korea says U.S. threats make war unavoidable as China urges calm
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-statement/north-korea-says-u-s-threats-make-war-unavoidable-as-china-urges-calm-idUSKBN1E0393
    Whoops!! United Nations Human Rights, anybody.
    or is this just more Fake News.

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  2. lurcher1948

     /  December 8, 2017

    Who in the national party allowed a FRENCH consortium run our passenger train services in Auckland and Wellington, unsafely with an eye for the maximum profits sent back to Paris.Is. there a bit of corruption involved or maybe a cushy board appointment for someone in the previous govt

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    • High Flying Duck

       /  December 8, 2017

      That would be the Labour dominated Auckland Council and the Labour dominated Wellington council Lurch.

      Why do you ask?

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    • Conspiratoor

       /  December 8, 2017

      In answer to your question lurcher … 1 frog, a kraut, 3 kiwis and 5 sons of sheep stealers run the thing

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  3. Blazer

     /  December 8, 2017

    oh Nigella..dahling..

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  December 8, 2017

      Needless to say that that is a mix made by editing various real tapes to make it sound as if Nigella Lawson’s really talking like that. Someone hadn’t enough to do with their time. It’s fairly obvious that it’s a fake quite early on as some of it doesn’t quite make sense. The dirty mac brigade love it, of course.

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  4. sorethumb

     /  December 8, 2017

    University faculty ranks have long been thought of as bastions of the political left, and with good reason: sizable majorities of professors self-identify as modern liberal or left-leaning in their politics. This trend dates back to the first comprehensive faculty survey on political leanings in 1969.

    The leftward tilt of college professors used to be more static than it is today. Between 1969 and 1998, self-identified liberals consistently made up between 40 and 45% of faculty in American colleges and universities, but they did not waver much from this range. While these totals outnumbered conservatives and moderates, all three groups were relatively stable in size. In fact, several academic studies published between the 1970s and 1990s pointed to this stable pattern as evidence that long-running conservative grievances about “faculty bias” were overblown.

    Then something changed.

    Starting in the mid-1990s, the number of college professors who self-identified as conservatives or even moderates began to rapidly decline. In 1998, moderates made up 37% of the academy and conservatives made up 18%. In the most recent survey from 2013, moderates and conservatives dropped to 27% and 12% respectively. Meanwhile, self-identified liberals exploded in number. They sat at 45% in 1998, and have grown to 60% in the most recent survey. That’s a shift of over 15 percentage points away from conservatives and moderates and toward self-identified liberals.
    ….
    — the humanities, fine arts, and social sciences — have grown their faculty at a faster rate than other less politicized disciplines. This skewed growth pattern has increased their footprint on campus relative to other faculty, and it has done so at a time of an additional leftward shift in their own ranks. The cumulative effect is to pull the university system as a whole even further to the left, yielding the overall pattern we have seen in the faculty survey at a time when the American public at large has maintained a fairly stable liberal/conservative divide.
    https://areomagazine.com/2017/12/07/why-universities-have-shifted-to-the-political-left-in-the-past-20-years/

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    • PartisanZ

       /  December 8, 2017

      You’ve gotta have some decent, compassionate and intelligent people SOMEWHERE in the system sorethumb!

      It must be better than a Right-wing intelligensia, surely?

      Seriously though, interesting comment … Cheers.

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      • sorethumb

         /  December 8, 2017

        People with closed minds will never amount to much

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        • PartisanZ

           /  December 8, 2017

          I agree, they get to be tyrants, dictators and bullies in many walks of life … and often supreme manipulators of opinon … including the current President of the United States

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    • Blazer

       /  December 8, 2017

      of course then their are quite a few University seniors like these….hardly bastions of..the left..

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      • Blazer

         /  December 8, 2017

        this professor is one of my favs…can hardly stop..smirking..

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  December 8, 2017

          The number of professors in NZ, as in the UK, is relatively small as the title means much more than it does in the US. Was the study done in the US where professors are what we would call lecturers and not here or the UK where being a professor is an honour, not just having tenure ?

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  5. sorethumb

     /  December 8, 2017

    There are 170,000 fewer retail jobs in 2017—and 75,000 more Amazon robots
    https://qz.com/1107112/there-are-170000-fewer-retail-jobs-in-2017-and-75000-more-amazon-robots/

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  December 8, 2017

      That’s in the USA, we are not part of the USA so what happens there is not necessarily mirrored here.

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  6. sorethumb

     /  December 8, 2017

    The Great Debate: XENOPHOBIA – Why do we fear others?
    Should we work with human nature (xenophobia has a flip side) or can we overcome it. In NZ and the West we are forging ahead with the latter. [See Jeff Sachs 14:00]

    Note how chimps attack when they have the numbers – is this the thinking behind multiculturalism (no group large enough to dominate – is a jungle eco system is comparable to the human economy)?

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  7. PartisanZ

     /  December 8, 2017

    Is there a condensed version?

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    • sorethumb

       /  December 8, 2017

      There is a panel of people who are experts in various fields and they look at intra species rivalries (ants, bees chimps etc) You could think of it as a series.

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  8. lurcher1948

     /  December 8, 2017

    WOW Lake Taupo is fu*ked, due to intensive farming,does anyone want their little sprog swimming amongst and in DEATH. Good one fonterra put butter up again

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    • High Flying Duck

       /  December 8, 2017

      Looks like it’s more the townies to blame:

      But progress, especially around Lake Taupo, has been made since his warning.

      The Lake Taupo Protection Trust was set up in 2008 with the aim of reducing by 20 per cent the amount of nitrogen getting into Lake Taupo from manageable sources, such as leaching from farms and discharges from wastewater plants.

      It had a $81.5 million public fund and reached its target of reducing nitrogen entering the lake by 170 tonnes in 2014, three years ahead of schedule.

      The project successfully encouraged land owners to change their farming practices and significantly reduced the amount of nitrogen getting into the lake, by buying some farms, paying farmers to convert from farming to forestry, and capping nitrogen leaching limits.

      But stormwater still discharges directly into Lake Taupo and some of the lake shore settlement areas lack wastewater schemes. Taupo township has had three separate wastewater spills into the lake this year alone after wastewater pipes became blocked by people disposing of wipes and fat into the wastewater system.

      In 2003 there was a toxic blue-green algal bloom (Anabaena circinalis) in Lake Taupo, which led to a swimming ban in parts of the lake. At that point it was only the second time an algae bloom was reported in the lake.

      Cyanobacteria was also detected in Lake Taupo last year but levels remained low to moderate and were not of concern.

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  9. Ray

     /  December 8, 2017

    It is my understanding that intensive farming has been banned in the Taupo catchment for over 40 years for just that reason.
    Urban growth on the other hand, not so much.

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  10. lurcher1948

     /  December 8, 2017

    Farrar the attack national POODLE, still is trying to come to terms with loss,sad really…
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/12/little_doesnt_understand_bims.html
    9 MORE YEARS FARRAR HAHAHAHAHA, and no one cares about your posts David except your weirdos

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  11. lurcher1948

     /  December 8, 2017


    i blame this post on Sir Key

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