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9 December 2017

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  1. lurcher1948

     /  December 9, 2017

    The heat continues,YEEEESSSSSS

    • Missy

       /  December 9, 2017

      Noooooooooo……..

      Sorry Lurch, not sure I want to hear about you guys getting hot temperatures while we have a storm currently hitting bringing sub zero temperatures and probable sleet & snow this weekend. ❄️❄️

      But enjoy your sunshine. ☀️

      • PDB

         /  December 9, 2017

        We had a crap summer last time and the coldest winter since 2009 so deserve some heat for a change.

        • Blazer

           /  December 9, 2017

          that was under a National..Govt.

          • robertguyton

             /  December 9, 2017

            Couldn’t even provide a decent Kiwi summer – losers!

          • PDB

             /  December 9, 2017

            We all know the sun shines out of Ardern’s ass…

            • Chris Trotter says:
              “THE BRIEFINGS TO INCOMING MINISTERS (BIMs) have laid bare the accumulated failures of nine years of National Party Government. In sector after sector senior civil servants paint a grim picture of incompetence and neglect. The clear message which emerges from this sorry record is that New Zealand has been the victim of a nine-year austerity programme that nobody – other than the poor – seems to have noticed. Taken together, the BIMs offer stark proof of just how deep the class divisions in this country now run.”
              Irresponsible idiots.

            • Corky

               /  December 9, 2017

              Excellent. Labour have the reins. They can change what they want. Lets see what the voters decide at the next election. I can tell you now. Its National.

              Put up, Robert. Put your mana on the line and call the next election.

            • robertguyton

               /  December 9, 2017

              Certainly, Corky. Despite the fact that I cannot predict the future with any more accuracy than anyone else and this has to be a slighty-informed guess/stab in the dark (as was your claim), Labour will comfortable take the next election. And the one after that. National will fume and thrash, whine and grizzle in Opposition, weakening its support by the day. The last poll showed the trend.

            • robertguyton

               /  December 9, 2017

              I did enjoy your opening sentences though, Corky,
              “Excellent. Labour have the reins.”

            • Corky

               /  December 9, 2017

              ”Despite the fact that I cannot predict the future with any more accuracy than anyone else and this has to be a slight-informed guess/stab in the dark (as was your claim),”

              No, No. Sorry, Robert. Read my comment above and have another go. I didn’t make any stab in the dark. I was quite precise..with no excuses.

              Your turn.

            • Gezza

               /  December 9, 2017

              The fact that both of you have now made precisely stated guesses as to the outcome of the next election doesn’t mean they aren’t both stabs in the dark. They are.

            • Corky

               /  December 9, 2017

              I waiting, Robert. Ignore Gezza. I made no riders with my comment. I expect the same from you. No weasel words.

            • Gezza

               /  December 9, 2017

              I wouldn’t bother responding if I were you Robert. He didn’t even vote.

            • Corky

               /  December 9, 2017

              Point made. I move on.

            • Gezza

               /  December 9, 2017

              Point made that his point was pointless I move it on out.

  2. Missy

     /  December 9, 2017

    So with the Christmas Party season upon us it is time for merriment, humiliation, and embarrassment at the Office Christmas Party (mine is next week), and of course the fun police to throw a bucket of reality on it all, or in the case of last week the Northern Ireland Police Service to throw a bucket of over reaction on the Christmas Party.

    Last week the NIPS sent a tweet saying “If you bump into that special someone under the mistletoe tonight, remember that without consent it is rape #SeasonsGreetings”. They were heavily criticised for this, many saying they were conflating a kiss with rape. To make matters worse they deleted the tweet and followed up with one trying to explain. The follow up tweet said “We posted a message on Twitter yesterday that some may have taken out of context but the message remains the same; when you are out socialising over the Christmas period, please remember without consent it is rape.”

    Needless to say this didn’t go down well either, as many then said they were trying to all socialising without consent was rape.

    The message the NIPS were trying to convey was admirable and correct, but the wording was clumsy and wrong.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/03/ridicule-police-say-kissing-mistletoe-without-consent-rape/

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  December 9, 2017

      Mr Plod is still thick. Be careful what you entrust to his judgement.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  December 9, 2017

        In similar vein, the sanctimonious glee with which the likes of Howman and Paterson pursue their victims suggests a twisted psychology that will probably facilitate their inevitable karmic retribution.

        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11955850
        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11956281

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  December 9, 2017

          What a turnoff-being asked for consent for a kiss under the mistletoe.That takes all the fun away. If it’s akin to rape, are men who are kissed by women under the mistletoe raped ?

          All this is a great leap backwards and seems to be trying to turn all women into victims, poor feeble little creatures unable to take care of ourselves. Any physical contact between men and women will be taboo. I wonder if the men who pulled that woman off the railway line asked her permission to touch her and waited for her to give it.

          • Missy

             /  December 9, 2017

            Indeed. This new puritanical attitude of the Millenial Generation & modern Feminists is not empowering women, if anything women are being made into victims and men demonised.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  December 10, 2017

              I spend a lot of time saying just that, thank Heaven other people are saying it, too.

              Men are going to be nervous of going anywhere women in case they are accused of something-it could be the paedophilia witch hunt all over again.

              It makes women seem feeble and unable to look after themselves.

              One thing that really annoys me is the MeToos preening themselves for breaking the silence as if nobody had ever said anything before about sexual harassment.

              If someone is harassed, groped or raped by a man and then goes on making films with him, one must wonder about this.

  3. Blazer

     /  December 9, 2017

  4. Alan Wilkinson

     /  December 9, 2017

    PC lunacy endemic in our teaching profession. Inevitable consequence, a generation of entitled, useless snowflakes:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11955880

    • Gezza

       /  December 9, 2017

      While my initial reaction to the opening pararaphs of that article had me agreeing with you, a read of the full article suggests to me that there is possibly quite a lot more to this story than meets the eye.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  December 9, 2017

        I wonder, too. It seems extremely odd.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  December 9, 2017

        Obviously there was a lot going on. However the decision was made on the particular incident detailed, not the rest of the circus.

  5. lurcher1948

     /  December 9, 2017

    DAMN my 3 days of rage felt good,i cannot remember what i was raging over, maybe the negative national opposition to everything,the new bosses are doing plus nationals stuffed, and ruined Taupo, pharmac pill buying, a disaster for good sake NZ ran out of contraceptive pills, education, the OLD white men ran NZ into the ground but thank god JACINDA to the recure.just saying

    • lurcher1948

       /  December 9, 2017

      Must put my glasses on when posting,god ,rescure…must proof read with specs on

  6. lurcher1948

     /  December 9, 2017

    Kitty,old man running with velvet ears RED a LURCHER, check out the numbers of the course, 200+meters,25 obstacles 69 Years Old still running FEILDING last weekend
    https://scontent.fpmr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/24775046_1370491296396502_1533263259559325543_n.jpg?oh=e48b25f3398e1b75542bd045fa7b1818&oe=5ACD7A11

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  December 9, 2017

      Blimey, what a nimble dog-Olympic gold medal level. How long was that jump ?

  7. robertguyton

     /  December 9, 2017

    “One of the stupidest most inhumane things the last Government did was to develop a tough on tenants policy regarding methamphetamine. Not on cooks, but on people living in flats where minuscule traces of methamphetamine were found. They were summarily evicted. Bad enough that proof that they actually caused the methamphetamine traces to be present was not required but what made it really crazy was they misinterpreted and misapplied Department of Health data on what was a safe level of methamphetamine.

    Belligerent beneficiary bashing combined with scientific illiteracy is a powerful combination. And wrecked the lives of far too many people. And they were told.”
    Stupid and inhumane – National.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  December 9, 2017

      So how do you imagine that the traces come to be there ?

      • robertguyton

         /  December 9, 2017

        Smoking and baking are not the same thing.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  December 10, 2017

          Irrelevant answer. The drugs are still present.

          • robertguyton

             /  December 10, 2017

            In what amounts? Significant or insignificant?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  December 10, 2017

              That would depend upon the amount used, of course-just as the amount of nicotine etc in the atmosphere would depend upon the number of cigarettes smoked in a particular place. What a stupid question.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  December 10, 2017

              That’s one of those ‘How long is a piece of string ?’ questions.

  8. Kitty Catkin

     /  December 9, 2017

    Another American cop found not guilty of murdering an unarmed man who was crawling towards him as ordered, after a series of contradictory commands-hands on your head, in the air, behind your back, now crawl and if you fall, make it on your face…it was cold-blooded slaughter.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  December 9, 2017

      Thank heaven that our police are not like that.

      I am a bit iffy about the equal numbers of recruits policy here, though-what happens if enough women just don’t apply ? Will they lower the standard for women recruits ? Take fewer men so that the numbers are the same ?

  9. Kitty Catkin

     /  December 9, 2017

    I can’t see ACC giving in on the family who had that ghastly reaction to the wild pig meat…it is not an ‘injury’ of the kind they cover. People have tried to class illnesses as accidents before, on the grounds that it was accidentally caught.