Open Forum – Sunday

10 December 2017

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25 Comments

  1. robertguyton

     /  December 10, 2017

    “OPINION: It’s taken this long, but the shellshock of finding itself in Government seems to be wearing off for Labour.

    After an untidy start, the fightback has begun.

    The flood of “BIMs” – briefings to incoming ministers,170 of them in total – has provided the opening to a conversation about National’s legacy not being all it was cracked up to be.”

  2. lurcher1948

     /  December 10, 2017

    David Farrar nationals attack poodle is struggling to get attack targets ,They might drop him as hes irrelevant these days YAP YAP Farrar,scary
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/12/ron_mark_ignored_medals_advice_from_dpmc.html
    SHOCK HORROR…David Fonterra’s stuffed LAKE TAUPO,do a post on that,opps they pay him,complete silence

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  December 10, 2017

      There is a book called ‘Red the Lurcher’. I suspect that it is about Red, the Battersea Dogs’ Home lurcher who used to undo the bolt of his cage and go around letting other dogs out for midnight feasts and a good time when there was nobody around.

      What fun to have a copy !!!

    • Gezza

       /  December 10, 2017

      The day Lurch discovers the difference between opps & oops will see a beer drunk, in celebration of the value of continuing education, in this whare. 👍🏼 🍺

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  December 10, 2017

        What is an oop, anyway ? Or an opp ? 😀

        • Gezza

           /  December 10, 2017

          An opp is usually an abbreviation for an opportunity, I think, as in a photo op or photo opp. Or an opposition.

          I suspect oops is probably defined in the better dictionaries.

          Meantime, I have found this, re oop. I hope this helpful.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  December 10, 2017

            Yes, I knew of ops-and of course, there’s ‘alley oop !’ Opportunity shops are opshops or op shops, according to taste.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  December 10, 2017

            In the North of England, people pronounce up as oop.

  3. PartisanZ

     /  December 10, 2017

    How long can any government continue with a policy that’s having largely the opposite affect to what it intends? SmokeFree 2025 arrived at this impasse some time ago.

    It’s created a new black-market and a new crime wave, and added another government regulated removal of security to the dairy owners’ already dangerous existence. In poorer households children are suffering because their parents are tobacco addicts. They CAN’T give up.

    Tobacco tax earns the government $1.3 billion. Tobacco related health care costs the nation $400 million …

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/95311490/smokefree-2025-make-it-harder-to-get-tobacco-and-it-will-be-snuffed-out-report-says

    The hypocrisy of the neoliberal paradigm at its very worst. Deregulation, personal freedom, ‘free market’ … FFS!!!

    Imagine if this was Potato Crisps or Soft Drinks …. Fast Food? …. or Alcohol?

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  December 10, 2017

      People can give up if they want to do it enough. There is enough help available for anyone who wants to stop smoking. I have known heavy smokers who have given up after smoking for decades.

      These selfish parents are putting their disgusting habit ahead of their children’s health and well-being; They turn up at foodbanks, cigarettes lit in their mouths and expect other people to give them the food that they are too mean to buy. They would let their children go cold and hungry before they’d seek help to stop smoking. It’s not possible that anyone could not know that there are places to help with this addiction.

      The comparison with crisps etc is a specious one.

  4. PartisanZ

     /  December 10, 2017

  5. PartisanZ

     /  December 10, 2017

    And …

  6. Corky

     /  December 10, 2017

    This is a real worry for me. Joe Parker doesn’t yet have the strength, or killer punch, to put Anthony Joshua away, in my opinion. Parker can’t go a whole fight trying to evade Joshua’s big punches and expect to win.

    Still, big opportunities like this can’t be ignored. Good to see Parker has a new strength coach. He will need to be 15 to 20 percent stronger to have a chance.

    As for Joshua’s glass jaw? Well, you have to hit it first. Any fighter hit on the jaw can be knocked out. You don’t need a glass jaw for that to happen.

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2017/12/bob-arum-claims-anthony-joshua-and-joseph-parker-close-to-sealing-march-31-bout-in-cardiff.html

    • Missy

       /  December 11, 2017

      I will admit didn’t read the article (not that interested in boxing), but it is interesting what you say, only because at my last haircut my hairdresser and one of his colleagues and I were discussing Anthony Joshua and the fight he had that night against some Russian dude. My hairdresser’s colleague was pretty much of the same opinion as you regarding Joseph Parker, to be honest I was surprised he had heard of Parker but it seems he is a huge boxing fan and knew of Parker, plus previous Kiwi boxers including Tua.

      • Corky

         /  December 11, 2017

        Your hairdresser knows his business onions to use a quaint Northern English saying.

    • Blazer

       /  December 11, 2017

      you show once..again,that you know nothing about boxing.Parker will try to survive,he has lead feet and no strength training can save him….its about a big payday,even the Parker camp know he has …no chance.I expect him to be knocked out…cold.

      • Corky

         /  December 11, 2017

        Yeah, we previously put your theories to rest, Blazer. You are a proven Google boxing expert. Like your garden, it’s proof you have no practical experience regarding boxing.

        I, on the other hand, have been in the ring ( amateur). It’s a lonely place, made worse by people braying for your blood. My record was 3 wins..one draw. I gave up after the draw. The pain and hard work wasn’t worth it. I can only guess the pressures on a professional boxers.

        While I don’t profess to be a top class boxing expert. I know one thing…I know more than you.

        ps- you have written Parker off. Being a boxing guru, you should know anything can happen in the ring. Compare your post to mine. See the difference.

        • Blazer

           /  December 11, 2017

          so you’re undefeated in the ring….but k.o’ed nearly every time you post here.The calibre of previous opponents is the telling factor as to this match up.Money ,money,money.As soon as Parker faced decent opposition he struggled,both the Takam and especially Ruiz decisions could have gone the other…way.As for his recent opponents…even you may have been..a hope.

  7. robertguyton

     /  December 11, 2017

    “I, on the other hand, have been in the ring ( amateur). It’s a lonely place”
    Did they not provide you with an opponent?
    🙂