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15 December 2017

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31 Comments

    • Blazer

       /  December 15, 2017

      Farrar is a chrome dome because he has pulled all his hair out in frustration at not being able to understand…English.Get a dictionary and look up the meanings,of ‘prosecution’…and ‘prosecute’.

      • I hope I’m not disappoinDed if I meet you, as I’m picking you must be quite the looker, based on the way you mock other’s appearances. .

        • Blazer

           /  December 15, 2017

          I could be Adonis,but I’m…not Greek,have all my hair and my own…hampstead..heath.

      • High Flying Duck

         /  December 15, 2017

        The letter is to David, not from him Blazer. And I assume if the author is correct about their 20 yrs experience in criminal defense work they may know more than you.

    • lurcher1948

       /  December 15, 2017

      I have to admit i sent this letter to Mr Farrar, Red my dog did the legwork but i typed it.It feels SOOO good to get that off my chest and it gives Farrars ranters something to rant over today.

      • GG is a show off, she rated herself, was caught out BSing and there’s an even bigger scandal coming. You heard it here third🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

        • Blazer

           /  December 15, 2017

          you really don’t like the Governor General…do you.

          • Conspiratoor

             /  December 15, 2017

            Some great wits around today. It’s appreciated by all those at the …coalface

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  December 15, 2017

          Pretty Little Liar?

  1. An interesting video on Whale Oil last night re politicians and their words.
    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/12/arguing-over-nothing/
    “Let’s do this.”

    • High Flying Duck

       /  December 15, 2017

      That was an excellent video.
      For those who cannot hold their nose to click on to WO…:

  2. PartisanZ

     /  December 15, 2017

    I like this late-night ‘Media Watch’ comment of mine so much I reproduce it here –

    As for ‘the long march through institutions’, has it ever occurred to anyone that Rudi Dutschke’s 1967 assertion may have been wishful thinking on his part? And that his ‘Long March’ idea has actually been co-opted by the very cultural hegemony – ruling class – Gramsci originally identified as manipulating “the beliefs, explanations, perceptions, values, and mores” of society? [Wiki]

    IMHO ‘The Long March’ has become one of those manipulations? A kind of ‘ghost in the machine’, public enemy #1 who can never quite be identified, or whom can never be adequately corralled, who never really show their faces … McCarthy’s communists … Modern day ‘witches’ for burning at the ruling elite’s stake after ‘examination’ by the Right-wing media/social media ‘Inquisition’?

    If they’re so scarey, where the f^*k are they? Still waiting to be ‘activated’ 50 years after the call to lay down arms? Busy raising the next generation of Lefty ‘deep cover’ agents? And, as I’ve said so many times before, “Where the f*%k are the whistle-blowers?”

    If they went underground (or undercover) in 1968, why didn’t they re-emerge in 1988 to properly counteract Rogerednomics or in 1998 to stop the peak suicide rate attributable, IMHO, directly to Ruthanasia? Like … who the fu#k are they?

    Gareth Morgan!? Gee, here’s a guy who marched his way through ‘free market’ institutions directly founded upon ‘deregulation’ and ‘economic reform’, only to finally reveal himself as really being a socialist ‘mole’ all along …

    Or … maybe he saw and experienced first-hand where neoliberal capitalism was taking us, its inevitable outcomes, and just wants to prevent it getting any worse? Maybe even make it a bit better? He wants to live in a world where he doesn’t have to put an electrified barbed-wire fence around his home because of the iniquitous inequality of it all; literally, the cultural hegemony of it all!

    Maybe he acted on his own volition? For himself and for others! Rather than being the puppet of some ludicrous ideological ‘tunneling’ operation!?

    The ‘Long March’ conspiracy theory is pure slapstick … except insomuch as it may be being used against compassion and decency by a highly conspiratorial ruling elite?

    • PartisanZ

       /  December 15, 2017

      Still learning about brevity. Could have just said this instead –

      ‘The Long March Through Institutions’ has become the ideological equivalent of a ‘False Flag Operation’ …

      • Gezza

         /  December 15, 2017

        Still learning about brevity.

        Keep up the good work! 👍🏼 😎

  3. Zedd

     /  December 15, 2017

    I was just watching the committee stages of the “families package’ bill (sitting under urgency).. it is clear that at least one member of the new Opposition has moved from Denial to outright ANGER !

    After 4+hours of debate, just prior to the lunchbreak, the chair accepted the closure motion from the Govt. As was seen in the last few weeks, the opposition started raising constant POINTLESS ‘points of Order’ to try & stop the vote occurring. It got so bad that The Chief Whip of Natl; started SCREAMING over the Chair, who then resorted to raising his voice in Te Reo. The speaker was recalled & he upheld the decisions on the Chair & let the Angry Whip, know he was watching the proceedings on TV.

    Seriously.. that was a DISGRACEFUL display by an ‘MP’ who is supposedly amongst ‘our best & brightest’.

    Fun & Games or just a petulant brat throwing a temper tantrum, because he hasn’t got his/Nat’l way anymore !!

    • Zedd

       /  December 15, 2017

      I just switched on, the continuation of committee stage.. the ANGRY screaming Natl whip must have taken a ‘calm down pill’ OR hes finally accepted his shenanigans are a waste of time/effort.

      Perhaps because Mrs Tolley is now in the chair, hes pulled himself together ? 🙂

    • Totally agree, I was listening in while driving between assignments.
      As an aside, do you know why National’s vote was 56 in the morning, then only 48 in the afternoon?
      I presume that noone was able to proxy vote for Seymour after he volunteered to be thrown out of the chamber.
      Also, while I’ve got your ear, who was the chairman, he did a good job and kept his cool 🙂
      Thanks in anticipation 😉

      • Zedd

         /  December 16, 2017

        The Chair, at the time of the tantrum was Adrian Rurawhe (Asst. Speaker) 🙂

    • PartisanZ

       /  December 15, 2017

      @Zedd – ” … from Denial to outright ANGER !”

      Ah, the all too familiar seven stages of electoral grief …

  4. PartisanZ

     /  December 15, 2017

    “So, I say, down with the work ethic, up with the play ethic! We are designed to play, not to work. We are at our shining best when playing. Let’s get our economists thinking about how to create a world that maximizes play and minimizes work. It seems like a solvable problem.

    We’d all be better off if people doing useless or harmful jobs were playing, instead, and we all shared equally the necessary work and the benefits that accrue from it.” – Peter Gray

    http://evonomics.com/less-work-job-creation-peter-gray/

  5. robertguyton

     /  December 15, 2017

    Jamie Lee Ross and David Semour in the House – idiots.

    • PartisanZ

       /  December 15, 2017

      ACT’s Seymour is ideologically opposed, with a passion, to giving away other people’s money …. although he doesn’t mind receiving it himself …

    • Zedd

       /  December 16, 2017

      @RG
      I think the way, that many Natl ‘MPs’ are reacting to being in opposition, is like a bunch of angry school kids who just lost their ‘Prefect badges’ & decided to constantly ‘throw stones’ & try to cause as much disruption as possible; BUT they need to ask themselves is this an ADULT way to behave.. ‘Holding the Govt. to account’ or just showing what a pack of SORE LOSERS they are now ?!

      Seriously (as I said above) J L-R looked like a petulant child throwing a temper tantrum, because he couldn’t get him way anymore; “I’m the Chief Whip of the LARGEST party in Parliament & I DEMAND to be heard !!!” (paraphrased) he shouted over the Chair, who on more than one occassion, told him & others to sit down & ‘behave’ :/

      btw; whats the next stage of grief from loss ? Pleading ?? 😀