Praise and hate after Hosking and Street announcement

I never cared for Mike Hosking. I rarely watched Seven Sharp, it wasn’t a programme that attracted my attention.

In the age of celebrity some media portrayed the announcement last night that Hosking and co-host Toni Street (she was a face without a name to me) were finishing their stint on Seven Sharp as ‘Breaking News!’ That’s become normal lame, ‘breaking news’ is broken.

Of course 1 News praised their highly paid employees, but some of the reaction showed how much hate is expressed on social media.

1 News: Watch as Toni Street and Mike Hosking say they’re stepping down from Seven Sharp after four years co-hosting show

After four years, Toni Street and Mike Hosking are stepping down as co-hosts of TVNZ 1’s Seven Sharp.

Toni is cutting back on her weeknight work commitments to spend more time with her family.

“This decision has not come easy for me, but with two young children, I want to be home more often in the evenings for them.”

Mike says the feelings were mutual.

“This was particularly important to me personally to honour what has been one of the best combinations on television,” he said.

Hosking, like many media ‘personalities’, are not shy to praise themselves.

“That given we started together we end together. It is also always good to leave on your own terms and at your own time, often a rare trick in media.”

John Gillespie, TVNZ’s Head of News and Current Affairs, said the company was working through potential opportunities with Mike for the future.

“Toni and Mike are stepping down tomorrow night. They’re a dynamic and great team and together they’ve made a big difference for viewers and TVNZ. Their leadership at 7pm has been a defining force in our media landscape.”

More media self praise, somewhat embellished. Leadership? Leaders of the trite and banal perhaps, that’s the direction media seems to view it’s salvation as growing numbers of people desert broadcast television.

1 News managed to select some praise of the two people changing jobs ‘A great duo’ – Viewers react to news Mike Hosking and Toni Street leaving Seven Sharp.

Friday night’s programme will be their last, the pair announced at the end of tonight’s show.

It was a show, largely entertainment. For some – I just didn’t watch what wasn’t my style of programme.

But Hosking has been a polarising figure in politics. He has capably conducted election debates, but on shows and radion was seem by the left to be a right wing enemy, so attracted a lot of vitriol.

And on his announcement last night the hate flowed as freely as the praise.

A thread at The Standard included:

 Bye bye Mike…. from 7 Sharp…. And there is now dancing in the streets!

Good job. TVNZ have been a nest of right wing vipers for too long.

TVNZ is a neoliberal propaganda outlet.
It’s managers, editors and senior business and political staff all work towards the goal of disseminating such propaganda.

I agree. Comical Ali was more impartial than Hoskings.

Hosking was the propaganda wing for John Key

He’s also quite thick, has almost no education, and makes no effort to inform himself before one of his drunken rants.

Yep, Hosking is a toxic little twerp who hates Labour so screw him.

Typical ugliness in politics and media.

Similar on Reddit: Toni Street and Mike Hosking stepping down from Seven Sharp after four years co-hosting show

🎶 It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas 🎶

It’s the most wonderful time.. Of the yearrr

Now Mike can finally follow his dream of becoming a National MP! /s (god forbid)

Stepping down? They couldn’t possibly get any lower.

Four years too late.

Leighton gone, hosking on the way out, now we just need matthew hooten to join gloria vale and life will be so serene

now we just need Mark Richardson to contract some sort of disease that silences him

National gone. Hosking out. It’s like the country is waking from a boomer-centric lapel tweaking nightmare.

Whenever I had the misfortune of seeing these clowns on TV I always felt sorry for Toni. If I had seen her in isolation I would have just dismissed her as the vapid bint that she is. Mike has a powerful effect.

There is so much good news this week in terms of NZ becoming a progressive country again Im struggling to know where to look! I wish them both well in their personal lives and Toni in her future endeavours….but Hosking you are a selfish, biased and regressive prick who has no place in public broadcasting…please piss off from NZ media forever you are not needed in this country.

The intolerance, immaturity and toxicity prevalent on many online forums is something that will likely continue.

It’s a shame but we seem to live in an increasingly childish, trivialised and abusive society.

An online opportunity for more free speech serves to highlight, time and time again, the ugly side of human communication.

 

117 Comments

  1. Tipene

     /  December 15, 2017

    Right, so in NZ:

    * No centre-right political party.
    * No prominent centre-right political commentators.
    * No centre-right media options.
    * A current centre-left Govt.

    Yes, I’d say the average NZ Conservative capitulation to, and apathy towards the culture war is pretty much complete.

    I wonder what will fill the vacuum?

    • PartisanZ

       /  December 15, 2017

      Common sense?

      • PartisanZ

         /  December 15, 2017

        Compassion and decency …?

        A ‘relationship’, albeit a TV current affairs one, where the man models pseudo-tyrannical, male-dominant, utterly arrogant Right-wing borderline misogyny and the woman politically non-descript subservience to the man – ie constantly being interrupted, over-ridden, overtly and covertly denigrated and accepting 2nd Fiddle – is not a healthy behavioural pattern or prototype for 21st Century communications …

      • Trevors_elbow

         /  December 15, 2017

        Yeah right.

  2. Well, say what they like at thedoublestandard, but Toni and Mike were the John Key of the 7 o’clock time slot. I’m not a regular but they bring that thing Jacinda talks about to the big and that’s relentless POSITIVIDY.

    They have it in spades on a personal level ( the Left say smugness) and they convey it to an audience who were, judging by the numbers were uplifted by them.

    I will miss them and as they’re about the last remaining “news” show ( albeit lightweight) I access on the TV format rather than online, it’s back to Netflix for me.

    • Blazer

       /  December 15, 2017

      they will be missed like…a hole in the ..head.As for..’It’s a shame but we seem to live in an increasingly childish, trivialised and abusive society.’…this is so very true…I blame the last 9 years of National,who resorted to the most banal,childish politics imagineable.School yard mentality became their trademark.

      • Wouldn’t expect anything else from you blazer. However, viewing stats don’t lie. They’re so far ahead in that time slot it’s not funny.

        Strange isn’t it that people like some levity after an hour of news and that their lives of trial and tribulation can be enhanced by 30 minutes of community focussed positividy.

        Personally, I’m basically happy and relentlessly optimistic. People like Street and Hosking offer me some feel good at Seven. Sorry, but I can’t be a miserable cow all the time.

        • Blazer

           /  December 15, 2017

          I am surprised, both by you describing yourself as a miserable cow and the fact you can’t spell…positivity.

          • I am spellink accordink to Jacinda Ardern’s phonetic Pronunciation.

            You’re the spellink pleece now ?

            • Blazer

               /  December 15, 2017

              Nu Zilders have been so dumbed down by listening to the likes of Key and Bridges for the last 9 years that they have been ,desensitised to how to pronounce words.I take your point though about the spelling police and apologise and withdraw,that… observation.

            • Gezza

               /  December 15, 2017

              Jesus Christ man. Have you lissened d ya Pry Minisda? She’s even worse. Shocka! Child povidy. Pryorrides. She sounds like a moron. Sumpthink needs d be dun aboud her diction. Sumpthink, anythink! Soon. Please!

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  December 15, 2017

              I can’t understand why some people seem to annoy themselves by watching some television programmes-I dislike Mike Hosking, so I don’t watch Seven Sharp. Or the Project-very lightweight, or it was the twice that I have watched it because there was something that I wanted to see, and of course it was the last item and I had to have the rest of it.

            • robertguyton

               /  December 15, 2017

              Kitty – I’ve never seen Hosking. Don’t have a telly, wouldn’t watch a link that suggested him. Is he a bug guy? Comb-over? Florid complexion?

  3. ( big = box)

  4. Alan Wilkinson

     /  December 15, 2017

    The gross and blatant stupidity of the loony Left is always with us.

  5. NOEL

     /  December 15, 2017

    I turned off sometime ago when they had that practice of a patronising pontificating dribble speech at the end of the programme. Always left the room so don’t know if they continued the practice.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  December 15, 2017

      That was where Mike punctured the latest Lefty bubble, wasn’t it? No wonder you couldn’t take it.

      • Blazer

         /  December 15, 2017

        the only good thing about..’Mike’ was Jeremy Wells hilarious takeoffs, of the self important,smarmy little …cork soaker.

        • You really don’t like Mike do you blazer?

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  December 15, 2017

          Mike annoyed all the right people. Wells just played nurse to them.

          • Blazer

             /  December 15, 2017

            Mikes audience get their news from only 2 sources,mainstream T.V and… granny’ Herald.They soak up whatever propaganda is …presented.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  December 15, 2017

              You would know of course. Honestly, what drivel you post.

        • High Flying Duck

           /  December 15, 2017

          Hosking also liked the Wells impersonation. He doesn’t take himself too seriously.

          • Corky

             /  December 15, 2017

            Exactly, High Flyer. The negative rants on this thread is just water off the bonnet of his Porsche. I bet some of the commentators on this thread signed the petition to get rid of Mikey. They hoped getting rid of Mikey would make their sad miserable world seem better. Well, he’s gone. Nothings changed.
            😄😁😜

        • That preppy Remmers boyo Jezza. ?

  6. Corky

     /  December 15, 2017

    The nasty left on show again. I rarely watched Mikey after they ditched Mark Sainsbury and any attempt at a genuine hardcore investigative format.

    Seven Sharp was a vain attempt to appeal to a dumbed down younger generation. But they were too busy with their noses stuck in their smart phones watching Miley Cryrus.

    John Campbell copped crap.. but he was lucky Righties aren’t so vindictive.

    • John,( I take life so seriously and so must you – see my gravitas), Campbell.

      I was weaned on to your Keith Bracey Town and Around. I want 7.00-7.30pm to be light and possibly regional. I’m not interested in your Project type presentation nor your Campbell Live advocacy.

    • Mefrostate

       /  December 15, 2017

      Seven Sharp was a vain attempt to appeal to a dumbed down younger generation. But they were too busy with their noses stuck in their smart phones watching Miley Cryrus.

      Linear TV has higher reach among 65+ year-olds, empty nesters & retirees, and lower reach among young people. Hosking’s opinionated rants were blatantly pandering to the former crowd. So maybe remove the log from your generation’s eye before making sneering comments towards the younger ones.

      • Corky

         /  December 15, 2017

        ”Linear TV has higher reach among 65+ year-olds, empty nesters & retirees, and lower reach among young people. ”

        True.

        ‘Hosking’s opinionated rants were blatantly pandering to the former crowd.”

        Maybe. Or maybe he was just being himself.

        ”So maybe remove the log from your generation’s eye before making sneering comments towards the younger ones.”

        I did. And I found many older people weren’t interested in Seven Sharp. And younger folk didn’t know Seven Sharp existed because they were too busy peddling crap of their own.

        • Corky

           /  December 15, 2017

          TQ?

        • Mefrostate

           /  December 15, 2017

          Point is, Seven Sharp was most certainly not an attempt to appeal to the younger generation. If anything I’d levy that criticism at The Panel.

          Even if Hosking is genuine, his popularity was generated by distilling complex issues into comforting opinions for middle NZ to adopt without having to bother with the detail.

          Your silly generational attacks just echo those made by your parents & grandparents alike. Remember when hippies were destroying the social fabric? Or when rock’n’roll was seen as indecent?

          • PartisanZ

             /  December 15, 2017

            Totally agree Mefrostate.

            This is essentially the same ‘succession plan’ situation as with Leighton Smith leaving ZB. Ratings are falling. The days of the Old Geezers are numbered and consequently the ‘hosts’ who prod them with “comforting opinions” (confirmation bias) are living on borrowed time …

            It stands to reason. Get a Lefty host or hosts and Righties are still going to confirm their biases, only in reverse – Campbell irritates the shit out of these people, they can’t resist watching him – but he’ll claim another whole cohort of viewers as well …

            Win/Win for TVOne.

          • Corky

             /  December 15, 2017

            ”Your silly generational attacks just echo those made by your parents & grandparents alike. Remember when hippies were destroying the social fabric? Or when rock’n’roll was seen as indecent?”

            I’m trying to find what in my post has really upset you. Once I find that I will get back to you.

            https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/tvnz-exchanges-current-affairs-mess-pottage-7pm-ck-134564

            http://en.mobile.bywiki.com/wiki/Seven_Sharp

            Quote:

            ‘Seven Sharp typically presents 3 stories within a 30-minute time slot every weeknight and is designed to be more integrated with social media and real time opinions than its predecessor.”

            • Mefrostate

               /  December 15, 2017

              I’m not upset at all, just pointing out that dumbed down younger generation. But they were too busy with their noses stuck in their smart phones watching Miley Cryrus was a very self-righteous & inaccurate thing to say. Younger generations actually are better-educated & have higher IQs than previous ones.

              ‘Seven Sharp typically presents 3 stories within a 30-minute time slot every weeknight and is designed to be more integrated with social media and real time opinions than its predecessor.”

              Yes, Seven Sharp was trying to adapt to a changing media landscape. And it wasn’t a particularly hard-hitting or high-quality piece of journalism. But your argument that dumb youths are to blame is completely unsupported.

            • Corky

               /  December 15, 2017

              ‘Younger generations actually are better-educated & have higher IQs than previous ones.”

              That doesn’t seem to be the case given the remedial programmes at universities and other institutions. Also the growing underclass aren’t educated( generally). Maybe you are mixing ‘tech savvy” with raw IQ.
              While some surveys have shown what you say, they haven’t been tested to my knowledge by Mensa, so therefore must remain subjective findings..

              ”Yes, Seven Sharp was trying to adapt to a changing media landscape”.

              True, and who was leading that changing landscape? A younger generation.

            • Mefrostate

               /  December 15, 2017

              Several dumb arguments here, which is hilariously self-defeating.

              “That doesn’t seem to be the case given the remedial programmes at universities and other institutions”

              The presence of remedial programmes is an absolutely ridiculous metric by which to argue that younger generations are dumbed-down.

              “Also the growing underclass aren’t educated( generally)”

              I’m not really sure who this underclass are, but they’d have to be growing as a proportion of the population. Please point to some evidence. Here’s some real stats showing that educational attainment is growing: http://archive.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/snapshots-of-nz/nz-social-indicators/Home/Education/ed-attainment-adults.aspx

              “While some surveys have shown what you say, they haven’t been tested to my knowledge by Mensa, so therefore must remain subjective findings”

              No idea why you’d think Mensa were the arbiters of everything related to intelligence. Instead, let me point you to this Wiki article on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect

              And this: “Indeed, this effect, now called the ‘Flynn effect’, is well established. Nations, almost without exception, have shown gains of about 20 IQ points per generation (30 years)” https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=8pzDawey6akC&pg=PA63&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=4#v=onepage&q&f=false

              “True, and who was leading that changing landscape? A younger generation.

              So what? Are you arguing that other forms of media are somehow inferior to television?!

            • Corky

               /  December 15, 2017

              ”The presence of remedial programmes is an absolutely ridiculous metric by which to argue that younger generations are dumbed-down.”

              Given I have trouble with surveys quoting younger generations being more intelligent. And add to that my perceptions and experiences of said younger generation, especially in retail. I look for the next best thing. That being the education system that obviously has an input into their learning So why are 20 % of university students in need of remedial help. This didn’t happen before?

              ‘I’m not really sure who this underclass are, but they’d have to be growing as a proportion of the population. Please point to some evidence. Here’s some real stats showing that educational attainment is growing: ”

              Third world immigrants. Second, third and more generations of Islanders. Maori solo families. Kids leaving school as dumb as when they went in. The working poor. Do you visit poor areas?. Do you see the kids who just sit aimlessly on the curb abusing people. Ten years ago that scene didn’t exist in the areas I know. Are you telling me these kids are more intelligent than previous generations?

              ”No idea why you’d think Mensa were the arbiters of everything related to intelligence. Instead, let me point you to this Wiki article on the subject: ”

              Mensa aren’t the arbiters of everything related to Intelligence In fact I am a critic of Mensa. They sit around eating cake and solving puzzles; and trying to tell everyone you can’t increase your IQ ( you can). However, their culture fair test is good for testing raw IQ and education. Flynn isn’t talking about IQ per se. More about intelligence. From my perspective, adaption to more mental stimulation of the modern world., and the need to survive in said modern world. That doesn’t necessarily cover common sense, or the ability to think and act outside of what is necessary to survive- increased intelligence, or not

              So what? Are you arguing that other forms of media are somehow inferior to television?!

              The presence of remedial programmes is an absolutely ridiculous metric by which to argue that younger generations are dumbed-down.”

              Given I have trouble with surveys quoting younger generations being more intelligent. And add to that my perceptions and experiences of said younger generation, especially in retail. I look for the next best thing. That being the education system that obviously has an input into their learning So why are 20 % of university students in need of remedial help. This didn’t happen before?

              ‘I’m not really sure who this underclass are, but they’d have to be growing as a proportion of the population. Please point to some evidence. Here’s some real stats showing that educational attainment is growing: ”

              Third world immigrants. Second, third and more generations of Islanders. Maori solo families. Kids leaving school as dumb as when they went in. The working poor. Do you visit poor areas?. Do you see the kids who just sit aimlessly on the curb abusing people. Ten years ago that scene didn’t exist in the areas I know. Are you telling me these kids are more intelligent than previous generations?

              ”No idea why you’d think Mensa were the arbiters of everything related to intelligence. Instead, let me point you to this Wiki article on the subject: ”

              Mensa aren’t the arbiters of everything related to Intelligence In fact I am a critic of Mensa. They sit around eating cake and solving puzzles; and trying to tell everyone you can’t increase your IQ ( you can). However, their culture fair test is good for testing raw IQ and education. Flynn isn’t talking about IQ per se. More about intelligence. From my perspective, adaption to more mental stimulation of the modern world., and the need to survive in said modern world. That doesn’t necessarily cover common sense, or the ability to think and act outside of what is necessary to survive- increased intelligence, or not

              ”So what? Are you arguing that other forms of media are somehow inferior to television?!”

              No, I was supporting my contention that Seven Sharp was trying to attracted a younger generation. A younger generation dumbed down by Social Media..MSM too, when you come to think of it.

            • Corky

               /  December 15, 2017

              Something went wrong with my posting..sorry.

            • Mefrostate

               /  December 15, 2017

              “Something went wrong with my posting..sorry”

              That’s alright Corky, it’s clear from this conversation that your generation aren’t the sharpest.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  December 15, 2017

              Actually Corky has it right and you have not, Mefro:

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect#Possible_end_of_progression

              Being wrong doesn’t excuse your usual snarkiness, though.

            • Mefrostate

               /  December 15, 2017

              Ah Alan, the snark is purely for your benefit, since you call me boring whenever I attempt to elicit some reasoned discussion from you.

              Speaking of which, even a flat-lining Flynn effect would still disprove Corky’s claim of a dumbed-down younger generation.

              You follow the logic there? Cognitive decline does starts around age 60, so you’ve got an excuse if you were mistaken.

            • Gezza

               /  December 15, 2017

              I dunno whether I’d call the entire current 20-something generation dumb, but in NZ an awful lot of them, and their parents, are only semi-literate in English, in my experience. And they nowadays seem live on the internet & social media, have their eyes constantly on their smatphones, are obsessed with themselves & trivia, & seem to be rapidly losing or never acquiring whatever wider social skills used to be considered essential for being part of a local community.

            • PartisanZ

               /  December 15, 2017

              As long as most of them keep on producing and all of them keep on consuming, it doesn’t really matter, does it?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  December 15, 2017

              @Mefro, no, your snark had nothing to do with me this time.

              In the United Kingdom, a study by Flynn (2009) found that tests carried out in 1980 and again in 2008 show that the IQ score of an average 14-year-old dropped by more than two points over the period. For the upper half of the results the performance was even worse. Average IQ scores declined by six points. However, children aged between five and 10 saw their IQs increase by up to half a point a year over the three decades. Flynn argues that the abnormal drop in British teenage IQ could be due to youth culture having “stagnated” or even dumbed down. He also states that the youth culture is more oriented towards computer games than towards reading and holding conversations. Researcher Richard Gray, commenting on the study, also mentions the computer culture diminishing reading books as well as a tendency towards teaching to the test.

              You owe Corky some apologies.

            • Mefrostate

               /  December 15, 2017

              @Alan you have absolutely no high-ground to stand on when it comes to snark, since you deal in it almost exclusively.

              That’s a valid data point, and there’s an interesting discussion to be had about the pros & cons of shifting culture, the role that technology & the economy are having in that shift, and the effect that it’s having on people on different generations.

              But Corky didn’t start that conversation, but instead made a snide, self-righteous comment to slag-off an entire generation. It was in the same vein as the thousands of “millenials are destroying X” articles, and I won’t apologise for defending young folk against that kind of rubbish.

            • Gezza

               /  December 15, 2017

              … Corky didn’t start that conversation, but instead made a snide, self-righteous comment …
              Good God! He’s famously usually such a charmer, all sweetness & light. That must be a first, surely? 😕

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  December 15, 2017

              @Mefro, you should apologise for mis-citing the Flynn effect in your attempt to put Corky down as well as for losing the debate and the moral high ground to Corky. Appalling.

  7. Blazer

     /  December 15, 2017

    Campbell Live…put politicians from both sides under the heat lamp…and they didn’t like it…at all.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  December 15, 2017

      Campbell was a haemorrhaging Lefty greenie. Whenever did he put his pets under the heat lamp not to gushingly fan their prejudices and fantasies?

    • Once he held the flame to a leftist politician. Rest of this me he’s a snowflake supremo

  8. Barry

     /  December 15, 2017

    Normal people called it Seven Blunt.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  December 15, 2017

      Do you know any?

    • You mean the 20,00 Project, Checkpoint aficionados

      You lot with not be happy until TVNZ and the like have safe spaces( a floor with spa musak) set aside for the three transgender working there

  9. Zedd

     /  December 15, 2017

    I wonder if Hosking is really gearing up to join the party, he has constantly sang the praises of (ad nauseum) for years ?!

    Mr ‘know-it-all’ can join the party of ‘MP know-it-alls’ no prizes for guessing which one ! 😀

    • ..and lose his ZB salary? Hardly, he’s got something else lined up with 5 kids to support

      • PartisanZ

         /  December 15, 2017

        He might believe he’s really NEEDED in the political arena to counteract the dangerous Left-Wing move towards a more compassionate, egalitarian and decent society?

        A sort of Rightie form of ‘altruism’ … with a massive salary attached … not to mention POWER …

        Watch for parachutes over Rodney next election? He doesn’t need to live there …

    • PartisanZ

       /  December 15, 2017

      Perhaps he will lead the National backed ‘Conservative Front’ party?

      No threat of co-leadership there eh?

      He’d be perfect and he’d bring a lot of auto-pilot Alt-Right Zombie followers with him …?

      • Zedd

         /  December 15, 2017

        with whispers that half the Natl party wont be there by 2020.. there could be a perfect spot for Hosking; LEADER ??

        • robertguyton

           /  December 15, 2017

          *Natl?
          * Laffs

          • Zedd

             /  December 15, 2017

            @RG

            my use of the over option with a Z at the end was growled at recently.. BUT as they are now in opposition, they dont seem quite as extreme; lacking any real power 😀

  10. Gezza

     /  December 15, 2017

    Current Affairs my arse! I couldn’t stand the bloody show. I’m not normally one to complain, as you all know, but the few times I did watch it (because an item was advertised that looked like it might be important to see), it was just an inadequate few minutes of worthless, once-over-lightly crap.

    The whole show, presenters & reporters, seemed to be mostly trivial dribble – with Mike Hosking babbling bigheaded right wing bullshit at the end, & Toni Street playing the simpering, tittering airhead alonside him the whole time.

    God knows what utter drips they’ll foist on us next. I was going to say they couldn’t be any worse, but all the evidence to date suggests they could well be. Whenever I saw anyone standing in for either one of them they were appalling, I couldn’t get to the remote control to switch them off fast enuf.

    Other than that, I guess they were ok. 🙄 The Project seems to be just as flamin bad.

    • PartisanZ

       /  December 15, 2017

      The medium itself has done its dash IMHO Gezza.

      • Gezza

         /  December 15, 2017

        This one had done it’s flipping dash after the first night.

        • PartisanZ

           /  December 15, 2017

          Very true. Proof, IMHO, that people basically just eat what they’re fed …

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  December 15, 2017

      I’ve seen The Project a few times and aside from a few jokes it is about as penetrating and incisive as a half-wit on Mogadon.

      • PartisanZ

         /  December 15, 2017

        By comparison Mike was a half-wit who forgot to take his Mogadon …

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  December 15, 2017

          Insulting to halfwits on Mogadon, Alan.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  December 15, 2017

          Mike Hosking dared to be different, as did Paul Holmes and Paul Henry. None of them always got it right but their attempts were usually preferable to those content to say and think what everyone else does.

          • PartisanZ

             /  December 15, 2017

            Seriously Alan, “dared to be different”?

            Providing comfortable, conservative confirmation bias is “daring” and “different”?

            Hosking, Holmes and Henry all cattle-prodded the “what most people think” *Bull* and rode it as it ‘bucked’ (as to speak) …

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  December 15, 2017

              Yes, they did dare to be different and got targeted and aggressively abused for their trouble. Yes, their views were mainstream in the business world but sacrilege in their media world.

            • PartisanZ

               /  December 15, 2017

              Not surprising really … “mainstream in the business world” that paid to advertise on their TV stations and hence paid their fat-cat salaries …

              You don’t play to the rabble in the pits when your patron is the King up in the Gods …

              Conflict of ethics? Conflict of interest?

              Like, an actor like me could be a Wadical Wefty and go along and play the role of Wabbid Wightie all day on air because that’s my JOB …

              “Dare” has probably got Sweet FA to do with it.

            • PartisanZ

               /  December 15, 2017

              Alternatively, you trust that Holmes, Henry and Hosking are genuine …

              While of course Bradbury, Trotter, Blazer and me are not …

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  December 15, 2017

              Odd use of the the word genuine. My starting assumption is that everyone is genuine – even B.

            • Gezza

               /  December 15, 2017

              Hosking, Holmes and Henry – all shallow, overpaid, rich, narcissistic, big-mouthed wankers, Sir Alan. And these are their good points. Holmes was the worst because his burble was often completely incoherent.

  11. High Flying Duck

     /  December 15, 2017

    Well anyone bagging Hosking & Street on 7 Sharp need only to look at the number of comments them leaving has generated and then back down quietly.
    I thought it a bit of a non-story but where the Hosk goes, debate follows…

  12. robertguyton

     /  December 15, 2017

    “Hosking was first to blink in the battle of the relentlessly positive. He found now that JA is the boss he couldn’t keep up his smug schtick any longer. So like all quitters, he quit.”
    Nice, Sanctuary.

  13. PartisanZ

     /  December 15, 2017

    A host of potential frontpeople apparently vying for Mike & Toni’s seats on Seven Sharp …

    http://spy.nzherald.co.nz/spy-news/john-campbell-and-hilary-barry-could-this-be-the-new-face-of-seven-sharp/

    For me its far more interesting thinking about what the show might be ‘renamed’ and how rebranded … Shall we have a YourNZ competition? See who gets the closest …?

    Nah … actually … I can’t be bovered …

    • NOEL

       /  December 15, 2017

      Nah add the time to the news and make them source NEWS.

      • PartisanZ

         /  December 15, 2017

        Noel, I reckon its already been carefully determined that of a commercial TV ‘hour’ – 47 mins I think – people can only handle an absolute maximum of 40 mins of NEWS before they receive the information they are really wanting ….. THE WEATHER …

        • Gezza

           /  December 15, 2017

          Farking 1ewes STARTS with the freaking weather & some useless BS, then tells you what the weather was like at the end of the second 10 minute “news” segment, then tells you what the weather will be like tomorrow in the final segment. I haven’t a freaking clue why they think we want to see weather stuff all the bloody time! These days I’ve come to hate the bastards! Just give me a summary of the weather today & the forecast for tomorrow, with the graphics, ONCE, at the end, like they used to, & get it over with!

          • PartisanZ

             /  December 15, 2017

            Someone’s decided that the world now operates on instant gratification, ever shortening average attention-spans, fast cuts and brief ‘sound & vision bytes’ Gezza …

            I mean … where the F#CK did they get that idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            • Gezza

               /  December 15, 2017

              Rupert Murdoch, Fox News, & America generally. That country has been dumbing down its general population with tv ads & wall-to-wall BS since even before Goebels copied their advertising techniques to change the Germans’ way of thinking.

              But it’s the PR & Ad Men of our generation who have finally ramped it up to the point where people everywhere only get fed endless mindless crap, propaganda, fake news, idiotic idols, & trivial epinfotsinment – to the point where Americans have even ginally elected an appallingly pig-ignorant, childlike, bullying, narcissistic reality tv star as their Predident.

            • Gezza

               /  December 15, 2017

              😮 🙄 * Infotainment, finally, & President.
              (Soz. How embarrassing 😬)

            • PartisanZ

               /  December 15, 2017

              I sort of disagree. I think gen-pop Americans were always dumb and essentially narcissistic. It’s that kind of society from the founding fathers on up …

              TV just gave them the opportunity to sit and watch themselves be generally dumb and narcissistic during their spare time!

            • Gezza

               /  December 15, 2017

              I sort of disagree.
              I’ll sort of let you – but I would make the point that I think you’re wrong. America may be a winners & losers capitalist financiers wet dream, but it has had its halcyon days in various places where it had lots of communities and hardworking, even generous people within them who were just getting on with living their lives as best they could & sharing their time, good fortune, & resources as well as anywhere. Each state is like its own country.

            • PartisanZ

               /  December 16, 2017

              Gee Gezza, thanks for allowing me to disagree … sort of …

              Oh right … America’s had its halcyon days when the majority of people were all those things and now they’ve mostly been dumbed-down …

              Don’t kid yourself …

              I’m not going to do it, of course, but I reckon any careful analysis of American TV over the decades would reveal they’ve always been being fed “endless mindless crap, propaganda, fake news, idiotic idols, & trivial infotainment” and that they’ve elected a number of mindless dicks as President – some more dangerous than others – each according to his era … I can cite no better example than George W Bush … but then there’s Tricky Dick Nixon himself and, of course, Ronald ‘Corpuppet’* Reagan …

              *new word # 120

  14. patupaiarehe

     /  December 15, 2017

    Too many threads here to reply to… So I’m going to start another one…
    During my early morning ‘mission’ to Auckland on Thursday, I had to search for a radio station, once I was on the Waikato side of the Kaimais. By some happy (or unhappy) coincidence, Mike was having a good old ‘righty rant’, on the first station my radio locked on to. Rather than press ‘seek’ again, I kept listening, just for a laugh. And I had a dirty great smile on my face, before I even got to Matamata. Poor old Mikey, is more bitter than a bag of lemons!

    • Gezza

       /  December 16, 2017

      I saw their first show. That was enuf. Thank God I missed their last. From what I just read there I didn’t miss anything. And it’s so typical, as Alex Casey notes in her article there, that the “Luckiest Man” they interviewed, who says he has found 59 wallets, never even got asked if he was, in fact, a pickpocket! 😡

      All people bring joy. Some when they arrive, others when they leave. 😐