Media watch – Saturday

23 December 2017

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  1. sorethumb

     /  December 23, 2017

    Guyon Espiner at The Spinoff

    Then you read the text messages. Now I’m only talking about maybe ten messages from hundreds of thousands of listeners but grouped together straight after I’ve spoken they have quite an impact. “RNZ. Gee. Listen to Guy Esponsa go with his Maori,” wrote one listener from Gisborne, butchering several languages at once. “Dose he come with a grass skirt and dance with a spare too? How long before you have to wear shoe polish on your face?”
    //
    This pattern continued for a few weeks and then a funny thing happened. The barrage of texts and emails stopped. Oh a few still come in – more recently from Pākeha saying they are learning and want me to slow down so they can pick up the days and the dates. They’re genuine messages sent in good faith.

    The moaners might not like it any more than they did but mostly they’ve stopped voicing their complaints. In a small way a new normal has been established. On Morning Report, a ‘mainstream’ news programme, you are going to hear greetings, temperatures, phrases, sentences, questions and place names – in Māori.

    I decided to push it a little more. Kei hea te pūtea? I said to Auckland Mayor Phil Goff, asking where the money was coming from for a transport project. Pātai tuatahi ki a koe, I said to National leader Bill English, signalling my first question. E rua, e rua, I nudged Marama Fox, on whether National and Labour were just the same.

    I waited for the pushback from the audience but nothing came. Great. They must be ready for more.
    https://thespinoff.co.nz/featured/13-09-2017/my-te-reo-maori-journey-guyon-espiner/

    RNZ’s Chief executive claimed people were “positive”.- How scientific was that??

    • sorethumb

       /  December 23, 2017

      Without feedback people give up their resistance. Whether people are for or against the public will never know. The media fox is in charge of the henhouse.

      • Gezza

         /  December 23, 2017

        Sometimes there’s just no feedback because people don’t really care.

        • Conspiratoor

           /  December 23, 2017

          Apathy is the last attribute of a dying society …Aristotle

          • Gezza

             /  December 23, 2017

            Maybe, but people not strongly prejudiced by casual anti-Maori racism, or a determination to stay ignorant of the te reo Maori in the land where it’s the native language aren’t being apathetic. They just don’t see any reason to moan about it or comment on it.

            • sorethumb

               /  December 23, 2017

              I think the point is it isn’t the language. They are attempting to make it the language. But who are they and what is their authority? They lack legitimacy (charter or no charter).

            • Gezza

               /  December 23, 2017

              Well no, the point is it’s the native language. (English is an import. Mandarin & Hindi & Tongan & Samoan & Fijian etc are imports too.)
              And while in my opinion English is currently the common language so everybody should know it we should probably all know the native language too.

              This of course may well be changing & Mandarin & other languages alone might one day be perfectly adequate for communicating amongst all the different ethnic groups if any other ethnic groups have got big enuf & live in large enuf enclaves & achieve sufficient political power to make it so, but that’s still some way off.

          • PartisanZ

             /  December 23, 2017

            @Conspiratoor – “Apathy is the last attribute of a dying society …Aristotle”

            Except that societies don’t die, they change and evolve, overall in the general long-term direction of progress. They are superseded.

            So … Can this society please just get on with it!

            • Conspiratoor

               /  December 23, 2017

              Get on with what? More force feeding or apathy …or an unhealthy dose of both

            • PartisanZ

               /  December 23, 2017

              Get on with dying C … and make way for something a whole lot better …

            • Conspiratoor

               /  December 23, 2017

              I can live with that partisanz

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  December 23, 2017

      Or they just stopped listening to him?

  2. sorethumb

     /  December 23, 2017

    THE MIGRANT AND THE MEDIA
    Roles, challenges and potential of ethnic media

    The importance of ethnic media can be summed up in what Riggins describes as ‘the media imperative’, stating, “What better strategy could there be for ensuring minority survival than the development by minorities of their own media conveying their own point of view in their own language?” (Riggins, 1992, cited in Cormack, 2007, p. 5). Riggins goes on to describe the five key aspects of minority media. The first is the media imperative – the need that minorities have to express their own values and culture in the media. The second is concerned with the limits of media power i.e. that the long term effects of ethnic minority media is a moderate degree of preservation which represents a compromise between total assimilation and total cultural preservation. The third is minority media in the political context, referring to minority representation in the public sphere and its recognition on a national platform. Fourth is minority empowerment which stresses the differences and uniqueness of the minority. Finally, the fifth aspect is minority control of the media for the benefit of the community i.e. media that is in financial and administrative control of the minority and which should be designed in response to the informational needs and preferences of the community.
    http://www.unitec.ac.nz/epress/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/The-Migrant-and-the-Media_Roles-Challenges-and-Potential-of-Ethnic-Media-by-S.-Noronha-E.-Papoutsaki.pdf

    So what about the traditional New Zealander who listen(ed) to RNZ?

    This is multiculturalism in action. State resources foster ethnic identity whereas the original majority become a commons (place where change happens).

    • Gezza

       /  December 23, 2017

      Did you actually listen to any of Espiner’s broadcasts sorethumb?

      I didn’t but I found it interesting the Brian Edwards seems to be apologising for rushing to comment not realising translations were actually provided.

      • sorethumb

         /  December 23, 2017

        Don’t you think Edwards may have bowed to pressure?

        • Gezza

           /  December 23, 2017

          No. He has lived a lifetime of being strongly opinionated. He doesn’t do that.

          He’s discovered that he went off half-cocked not being aware of what actually happened, so he has now corrected his original opinion.

    • PartisanZ

       /  December 23, 2017

      Yes we must avoid the great evil of ethnic identity …

      • Gezza

         /  December 23, 2017

        Well, I dunno if it’s evil per se as long as immigrants of different ethnicities and different cultures want to assimilate into the host society. If ethnic (or religious, or cultural) identity starts to clash with national identity in a nation you get problems. We have enuf trouble getting people to learn to be a bicultural society of predominantly British ancesty and Maori ancestry as envisaged by the Treaty of Waitangi, our Nation’s founding document.

  3. Missy

     /  December 23, 2017

    😳

    • Gezza

       /  December 23, 2017

      Oh lawd! Might start a worldwide fad. It’d probably be a lot more fun than that fad of dumping a bucket of ice water over your head that swept the world recently.

      • Mefrostate

         /  December 23, 2017

        “Hi everyone, this is the Prostate Cancer challenge…”

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  December 23, 2017

      Depends how Terrorism Acts are written. It is easier to prove links to a terrorist organisation than intent to create terror by indiscriminate mass murder. Likely this lunatic won’t see the sun for a long time anyway, if ever.

  4. Mefrostate

     /  December 23, 2017

    Interesting perspective on Jian Yang, from a Chinese-NZ pro-democracy dissident:

    Chen said Yang played a “very active” role in New Zealand Chinese community events where he exhorted the local community to follow the party line.

    “He said that as Chinese immigrants we have heritage from China and we should follow those directives instead of New Zealand values,” he said.

    At this stage I think Yang needs to go

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11963316