“We could use a little bit of that good old Global Warming”

Once again it’s hard to tell whether Trump is showing his ignorance, or showing how adept he is at pandering to ignorant views.

42 Comments

  1. Alan Wilkinson

     /  December 30, 2017

    There is ignorance on all sides of this debate since climate is so complicated. But one side doesn’t know they are ignorant.

  2. Corky

     /  December 30, 2017

    Geez, I love Trumpy. He cuts through the bs. Bs like this:

    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/12/just-one-day-left-nasas-climate-prophet/

    Hey, Trumpy, come our way. We are paying a climate tax because our politicians are idiots.

  3. David

     /  December 30, 2017

    Good on Trump for calling it as most see it. When its hot its climate change when its bloody freezing its weather.
    Global warmists have no one to blame but themselves.

    • Joe Bloggs

       /  December 30, 2017

      trump uses climate change as an argument against climate change. Now that takes a special kind of idiocy.

      But I thought better of you, David. Here, educate yourself.

      • PDB

         /  December 30, 2017

        Talking about the weather channel…

        https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-08-29-found-of-weather-channel-blasts-total-fraud-of-climate-change-science-fraud-run-by-the-left.html

        “John Coleman, the outspoken retired weatherman who founded the Weather Channel, thinks global warming is a bunch of “silliness” and he doesn’t care who disagrees with him.”

        “He says that “Algorian” scientists have been fudging data and accepting billions of dollars worth of research grants from the government in order to be financially comfortable and advance their careers. He feels global warming should be a scientific issue rather an a political one, as people like Al Gore continue to watch their fortunes rise thanks to the global warming scam.”

  4. artcroft

     /  December 30, 2017

    Massive wild tires in California during winter. Yep there’s nothing odd going on with the weather.

    • Corky

       /  December 30, 2017

      It’s California, Arty. What do you expect? A six shooter with six chambers?

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  December 30, 2017

        I’ve never seen a wild ‘tire’, which my dictionary defines as a band of iron around a wheel to strengthen it-a kind of early tyre.

        Climate change is happening, that can’t be denied. What is debateable is the cause and whether or not it’s cyclical.

  5. David

     /  December 30, 2017

    Say what you will about him, but he is a masterful troll.

  6. To be frank, I would say it is a combination of both. You cannot trust a word that comes out of this man’s mouth, he flip flops so much in his opinions.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  December 30, 2017

      As McCain said, ignore what he says and watch what he does. Trump just enjoys taking the mickey out of the earnest Lefties who think they rule social media. Only idiots take him seriously but that includes most of the MSM.

    • Corky

       /  December 30, 2017

      ”He flip flops so much in his opinions.”

      Yeah, but that way he is never wrong. He changes his opinion to suit, or not, the narrative.
      And people call him a buffoon.

      • Gezza

         /  December 30, 2017

        Well, not all of them. Some buffoons call him smart.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  December 30, 2017

          I would prefer a leader who didn’t show off and try to sound funny all the time if I was American.

  7. Zedd

     /  December 30, 2017

    More FAKE NEWS from Mr T.. in his Ivory tower. Im guessing he wouldnt know which way his ass is pointing, if the media werent sticking the camera in his face constantly !!

    btw; my understanding is its called ‘Climate change’ (not Global warming).. when I was doing science at school; there was a lesson that stuck with me.. extra evaporation, actually causes Cooling. There have been reports, since 1970s, that we could be facing an ICE-AGE ? 😦

    • Corky

       /  December 30, 2017

      When you were at school Newton was still fleshing out his theories from his alchemy works.

      • Gezza

         /  December 30, 2017

        No, can’t be right. Newton died in 1727 Corks. Have you been huffing hydrogen or something?

      • Zedd

         /  December 30, 2017

        @corky

        Yes it was decades ago.. (not centuries, as you suggest) BUT at least I do have a brain between my ears & my own opinions; as opposed to just jumping on a populist bandwagon.. with all other mindless idiots !? 🙂

        • Corky

           /  December 30, 2017

          Pray tell…what populist bandwagon would that be? Seems you were thanking Gezza. Now there’s a populist bandwagon.

    • chrism56

       /  December 30, 2017

      Zedd, you make Trump look like a genius.
      If you actually read IPCC AR5, (just the Technical Summary of WG1 would do) you will see that they predict future global warming from anthropogenic causes. However, in something that the supporters don’t like to mention, they also say “There is high confidence that annual mean surface warming since the 20th century has reversed long-term cooling trends of the past 5000 years in mid-to-high latitudes of the Northern Hemisphere (NH). For average annual NH temperatures, the period 1983–2012 was very likely the warmest 30-year period of the last 800 years (high confidence) and likely the warmest 30-year period of the last 1400 years (medium confidence). This is supported by comparison of instrumental temperatures with multiple reconstructions from a variety of proxy data and statistical methods, and is consistent with AR4. Continental-scale surface temperature reconstructions show, with high confidence, multidecadal periods during the Medieval Climate Anomaly (950–1250) that were in some regions as warm as in the mid-20th century and in others as warm as in the late 20th century. ”
      So the warming isn’t unprecedented (it was there 5000 years ago) , isn’t global (just in the upper Northern Hemisphere), and the Medieval Warm Period was real. None of this is can be explained by by their models on which all their future predictions are based.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  December 30, 2017

        The various mini ice ages have been real, too, like the Elizabethan one. I think it was Elizabethan-it was about that time.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  December 30, 2017

      Can you explain why it is called climate change instead of global warming, Zedd?

      Just wondering since the cause is always attributed to heat retention which is simply directly and inevitably global warming.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  December 30, 2017

        But wouldn’t GW lead to CC ? Or is it the other way around ?

      • Corky

         /  December 30, 2017

        I doubt he knows the difference between weather and climate.

      • Griff

         /  December 31, 2017

        Considering you have been commenting on then subject for years Alan I am surprised you do know even the basics
        Global warming is the cause climate change is the effect.,
        Global warming means we are adding more energy to our climate system. The result is more extremes of weather… stronger storms, bigger floods and deeper droughts ..

        http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2017/08/2017-the-most-expensive-year-in-insured-losses-insurance-council.html
        This year is forecast to be the most expensive year in insured losses for weather and disaster related events in nearly 50 years, the Insurance Council of New Zealand (ICNZ) says.
        …..
        The figures exclude Earthquake Commission (EQC) claims and final numbers are still being counted for Cyclone Cook and Debbie, which ICNZ believes will push the number to more than $200 million.
        “The increase in weather losses is because of an increase in weather events causing [the] losses,” ICNZ CEO Tim Grafton says.

  8. Joe Bloggs

     /  December 30, 2017

    Ironically trump’s Irish golf course was just recently granted permission to build a seawall. The initial application used global warming and sea-level rise as reasons for the construction.

    • PDB

       /  December 30, 2017

      When the people making such decisions believe in such nonsense why would you do anything else?

  9. PDB

     /  December 30, 2017

    PATRICK MOORE ON GLOBAL WARMING – 2014 to the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee.

    ‘There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth’s atmosphere over the past 100 years. If there were such a proof it would be written down for all to see. No actual proof, as it is understood in science, exists.

    ‘The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) states: “It is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century.” (My emphasis)

    “Extremely likely” is not a scientific term but rather a judgment, as in a court of law. The IPCC defines “extremely likely” as a “95-100% probability”.

    ‘But upon further examination it is clear that these numbers are not the result of any mathematical calculation or statistical analysis. They have been “invented” as a construct within the IPCC report to express “expert judgment”, as determined by the IPCC contributors.
    ‘When modern life evolved over 500 million years ago, CO2 was more than 10 times higher than today, yet life flourished at this time. Then an Ice Age occurred 450 million years ago when CO2 was 10 times higher than today.

    ‘There is some correlation, but little evidence, to support a direct causal relationship between CO2 and global temperature through the millennia. The fact that we had both higher temperatures and an ice age at a time when CO2 emissions were 10 times higher than they are today fundamentally contradicts the certainty that human-caused CO2 emissions are the main cause of global warming.

    ‘Today, we live in an unusually cold period in the history of life on earth and there is no reason to believe that a warmer climate would be anything but beneficial for humans and the majority of other species. There is ample reason to believe that a sharp cooling of the climate would bring disastrous results for human civilization.

    ‘The IPCC states that humans are the dominant cause of warming “since the mid-20th century”, which is 1950. From 1910 to 1940 there was an increase in global average temperature of 0.5C over that 30-year period. Then there was a 30-year “pause” until 1970.
    ‘This was followed by an increase of 0.57C during the 30-year period from 1970 to 2000. Since then there has been no increase, perhaps a slight decrease, in average global temperature. This in itself tends to negate the validity of the computer models, as CO2 emissions have continued to accelerate during this time.

    ‘The increase in temperature between 1910-1940 was virtually identical to the increase between 1970-2000. Yet the IPCC does not attribute the increase from 1910-1940 to “human influence.”’