Open Forum – Thursday

4 January 2018

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26 Comments

  1. David

     /  January 4, 2018

    That the Dominion Post has gone hard left is not really news and nor is its declining readership, nothing bores more than the left as is also being played out by RadioLive currently with their leftward turn proving equally disasterous.
    Anyway the glee with which this mornings editorial writers unwavering support for a tourist tax lists some potentially wonderful things that could be funded with one, and of course that Labour are on the right track, all of them currently exist so no more bang for your buck. But it fails to point out how you collect it, if its via airlines I presume it will be at their cost to administer which will get passed on to all, how do you ensure its being complied with, how do you filter out Kiwis, people attending conferences for a few days or visiting relatives not touring, or here for work.
    They fail to mention that NZ is a very expensive place to visit already and the infrastructure is on a global comparison nearly 3rd world in quality. And crucially they dont mention the huge amounts of GST they already pay. Nationally idiotically imposed a border tax for customs, I have the misfortune of going through Auckland airport which never has enough staff on and the queues are terrible even in comparison to Heathrow and LA so we pay extra for a shit experience. National also failed to invest in tourist infrastructure with their miserly approach, an approach less evident with Joyces largesse in corporate welfare and its accompaning photo opportunities.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  January 4, 2018

      Well said. Plane landed Auckland 1:30am. Passengers cleared processing 3am. That’s bureaucracy in action.

      • Gezza

         /  January 4, 2018

        That’s equally likely to be understaffing on display.

  2. jh

     /  January 4, 2018

    Too late for a tourist tax as we now have low value mass tourism.

    • David

       /  January 4, 2018

      On the contrary, I part own a Queenstown hotel and our growth is from north America.

      • sorethumb

         /  January 4, 2018

        the worse Queenstown gets, the busier it gets – work that on out?
        – on a bucket list (reputation – Lord of the Rings)
        – dangerous elsewhere
        – people are inured to crowds/clutter/over development?

  3. jh

     /  January 4, 2018

    I hope the petition to keep the track up Te Mata peak gets more support. People need to stop being pc and think rationally.

  4. Corky

     /  January 4, 2018

    I see Ian Wishart is taking a bit of stick for pointing out some salient facts regarding Guy Wallace and his terrible memory. Very Ironic that many of his detractors are spouting conspiracy theory nonsense, while Wishart is largely going by police records.

    Wishart has posted his books regarding the Sounds Murders for free on his website to counter a push to find Scott Watson innocent.

    • PDB

       /  January 4, 2018

      For a guy who reckons he’s conclusively solved the case Wishart continues to try hard to convince us of his theories – his latest weird claim about what Wallace recently said case in point.

      His last book was largely ignored having used police reports (that supporters of Watson gave him access to so hardly ‘new’) and then constructed a strange theory based on the sighting of a young kid and Wishart’s own claims of an accomplice he provides no evidence of and doesn’t name. Apparently Watson and his unknown ‘accomplice’ are 100% guilty because someone saw two people lifting something wrapped up and heavy off a boat.

      In most respects what people think is irrelevant – I don’t have a solid opinion either way. The important bit is that the case at the time was not proven by police to be beyond reasonable doubt which Wishart still concedes. The later findings – the uncontrolled hair sample (hole in specimen bag, hair only eventually found after police secured a hairbrush of the victim), jail confessions (seemingly false) and downright dodgy police work (‘squinting’ Watson photo, misrepresentation of the repainting of Watson’s boat/ scratching on the outside of his hatch cover) further discredits the police case.

    • sorethumb

       /  January 4, 2018

      I am not a global warming skeptic but Wishart is one of those the MSM stifle (through non engagement), like Dr Greg Clydesdale.

    • Corky

       /  January 4, 2018

      Why should we be interested? Are you from the Bay?

      • Gezza

         /  January 4, 2018

        If you weren’t interested you wouldn’t comment.

      • Geez Corky, this is an open forum.
        It’s a story about an iconic landmark, a $300,000 walking track, a rich, community-minded winery owner, a local council which followed correct procedure, a public outcry by after-the-fact objectors, competing petitions, (more than 5000 and 7000 signatures at this point), and the Ngati Kahungunu Iwi chairman who states publicly he wished he could have laid a curse.
        Need more? There’s the Maori legend of the giant who died in an attempt to eat his way through the range, and his beloved who in her grief threw herself to her death somewhere near the site of the track in question.
        In short, people from all across Hawke’s Bay love, cherish and value the Peak. Why would you not be interested?

        • sorethumb

           /  January 4, 2018

          the Ngati Kahungunu Iwi chairman who states publicly he wished he could have laid a curse.
          ….
          My Celtic/Viking ancestors will have something up their sleeve.

          • sorethumb

             /  January 4, 2018

            Think of the geology behind Te Mata peak and think of the role of the Maori.

            • sorethumb

               /  January 4, 2018

              Think of the geology of Te Mata Peak and think of the role of political correctness?

        • lurcher1948

           /  January 4, 2018

          Does Donald Trump have any interests here, for Corky’s sake?

        • PDB

           /  January 4, 2018

          I’m sure some money thrown the way of the tribe would make the track all the more tolerable…..

    • sorethumb

       /  January 4, 2018

      Looks like the remainers have it?

    • lurcher1948

       /  January 4, 2018

      The track should stay,a few bottles of wine for koha should do the job for the local iwi.

  5. lurcher1948

     /  January 4, 2018

    Lets go fast, for the hell of it…

    the need for speed

  6. lurcher1948

     /  January 4, 2018

    For all the bikers who ride the green bikes you are the best…

    SAY NO MORE