“Climate change is one of the most significant challenges”

Opposition spokesperson for climate change, Todd Muller: Climate change a significant challenge

As we begin 2018, I have a request to my counterpart, Minister James Shaw, to ensure the significant climate change discussions that await both Parliament and communities all across New Zealand this year are anchored in sound evidence and supported by considered reflection, not adversarial rhetoric.

As opposition spokesman, I accept climate change is one of the most significant challenges confronting the globe over the next 50 years and will likely be a high profile domestic issue over the course of the next 12 months – particularly as the Government embarks on consultation regarding both our current emissions targets and the establishment of an independent climate commission.

But it is crucial that these discussions are characterised by respect for differing views and proven evidence.

I wish that more policies debated in Parliament and and in political forums was anchored in sound evidence, supported by considered reflection, and respected differing views.

 I welcome climate change being front and centre in 2018, but it must be informed by the best available science and practice, and continue to have the feel of proportionality.

If this is the general sort of approach by opposition MPs then this term could be a significant improvement on past terms.


  1. Kitty Catkin

     /  22nd January 2018

    I have a suspicion that future generations will laugh disbelievingly when they read that this one really believed that it could control the climate.

    • Griff

       /  22nd January 2018

      I have read a considerable amount of peer reviewed science that says we are altering the cliamte .
      Science and your opinion are not compatible.
      My take away from that?
      Reality does not care about your opinion.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  22nd January 2018

        I am as entitled to my suspicion-the word opinion was yours, not mine-as anyone else is.

        • Joe Bloggs

           /  23rd January 2018

          word games Kitty, just word games.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  23rd January 2018

            No, a suspicion is not an opinion. An opinion is more definite-if I suspect something, I am not sure of it; an opinion is a belief.

  2. Zedd

     /  22nd January 2018

    I find it almost unbelievable that ‘new opposition MPs’ (Natl) are now talking about issues (supposedly ‘loony left’) like climate change. 9 LOOOOOOONG years & they often avoided it & even followed the ‘suggestions of global Nay-sayers’ & actively ignored it ! 😦

    • robertguyton

       /  22nd January 2018

      I was disgusted throughout National’s terms in office, with regard their irresponsible behaviour over climate change and I’m disgusted now by their hypocrisy. Key, English, Brownlee, Joyce, Bennett et al. You should be ashamed.

      • PartisanZ

         /  22nd January 2018

        “should be ashamed” …

        Unfortunately, they can’t sense what they’re incapable of feeling …

      • Zedd

         /  22nd January 2018


        I sense there could be more to this, than maybe meets the eye; trying to split the Greens from Lab/NZF.. by talking up the issues that appeal more to the Greens. BUT methinks Mr Shaw & Co. & Lab/NZF coalition are smarter/stronger than that ! :/

      • Corky

         /  22nd January 2018

        True. National should be ashamed for not having the balls to call man made climate change bs. But to be fair, they are socialists…just a little more parsimonious with their purse strings.

  3. Alan Wilkinson

     /  23rd January 2018

    Climate change downgraded:


    Actually there has been a series of unreported papers reaching the same conclusions.

    • Griff

       /  23rd January 2018

      The paper in question was missreported
      2.2 to 3.4 most likely 2.8 for ecs
      Their are good posts on the paper at real climate and http
      The method used a simple one box modal for ocean heat uptake that is unphysical.
      Much more work is nèeded to constrain ecs
      The most likely value is still about 3c for 2x co2

  4. nickreality65

     /  18th February 2018

    RGHE theory exists only to explain why the earth is 33 C warmer with an atmosphere than without. Not so. The average global temperature of 288 K is a massive WAG at the ”surface.” The w/o temperature of 255 K is a theoretical S-B ideal BB OLR calculation at the top of – the atmosphere. An obviously flawed RGHE faux-thermodynamic “theory” pretends to explain a mechanism behind this non-existent phenomenon, the difference between two made up atmospheric numbers.

    But with such great personal, professional and capital investment in this failed premise, like the man with only a hammer, assorted climate “experts” pontificate that every extreme, newsworthy weather or biospheric flora or fauna variation just must be due to “climate change.”

    The Earth’s albedo/atmosphere doesn’t keep the Earth warm, it keeps the Earth cool. As albedo increases, heating and temperature decrease. As albedo decreases, heating and temperature increase.

    Over 8,700 views of my five WriterBeat papers and zero rebuttals. There was one lecture on water vapor, but that kind of misses the CO2 point.

    Step right up, bring science, I did.

    Nick Schroeder, BSME, PE






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