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  1. Will the violence in Afghanistan ever end? It seems like a hopeless case country.

    • Gezza

       /  January 24, 2018

      I can’t see it ending. A centuries-old history of fiercely independent tribal infighting & successful resistance to invaders, an isolated still-largely-rural uneducated population in a country divided by mountainous geography & constantly-changing tribal alliances, plus entrenched Islamic fundamentalism – now in the form of both ISIS & the Taliban, sometimes cooperating, sometimes at each others’ throats, plus the endemic corruption of every administration it’s had since the Russian invasion, doom it I think to centuries more of this.

      Aljaz tv has been reporting on this attack since it started. This is right in the middle of Kabul, in a highly defended zone. It seems impossible for the attackers to have got in to the building with their arms without inside help.

      • PartisanZ

         /  January 24, 2018

        But surely U.S. imposed ‘democracy’ can fix it …?

        • No I don’t think so. Anyway, President Trump said he’s not interested in nation-building (Vox video posted below), only in killing terrorists, which is bit tricky when they create more fighters wanting to get rid of “invaders” in a Muslim country this religiously backward & fiercely independent. The Taliban has been to only force so far to have ever gained anything close to national control.

      • NOEL

         /  January 24, 2018

        Good example of mission creep. Originally the objective was the destruction of el Queada after 9/11 then it stepped up to nation building.
        It’s the opposite of Vietnam where the objective was nation building resulting in eventual abandonment.

        • Gezza

           /  January 24, 2018

          I think the mission creep resulted from the same problem they had in Vietnam, although there they were fighting a single motivated polity, the Communists. In Afghanistan, they’re not only fighting one, they’ve got to contend with tribal & ethnic politics as well.

          In both cases they got in to the country thinking the job was a simple one, wiping out the “terrorists” who were perceived as a direct threat. But then they discovered they couldn’t eliminate them, so they tried to establish a secure puppet democratic government capable of containing the inevitable resurgence.

          Which they also can’t do. The population blames them for their misery. They’re foreigners & infidels.

    • Corky

       /  January 24, 2018

      A country so eloquently described by President Trumpy. One can only imagine the horror of being a woman in this country.

  2. Blazer

     /  January 24, 2018

    God knows why they were even..there..
    ‘American citizens were among those killed in the weekend attack on the Intercontinental Hotel in Kabul’…holidays!

    • Corky

       /  January 24, 2018

      ”God knows why they were even..there..”

      The same question I have been asking myself. Possible attachments to American contractors? I mean, it’s not like Tim from Oakland, decides to fly half way around the world to see the sights in Kabul …what sights?

    • Missy

       /  January 24, 2018

      Blazer, they were most likely contractors, NGO Staff, and possibly Government visitors or workers.

      Not only tourists use hotels you know.

  3. Blazer

     /  January 24, 2018

    Can someone remind me what the western forces are doing,trying to achieve in Afghanistan?Bin Laden is cavorting with…virgins…so?

    • Gezza

       /  January 24, 2018

      Vox has a go at explaining what’s happened & why it’s failed. 6 minutes.

      • Blazer

         /  January 24, 2018

        thanks Gezza.Unbeatable is the Taleban.The yanks should recruit them to fight their other…wars.

  4. Missy

     /  January 24, 2018

    More trouble looming for the EU.

    In less than 5 weeks the Italians go to the polls, and all polling so far has the eurosceptic party Lega Nord leading, though who knows what can happen in 5 weeks.

    Matteo Salvini, the leader of Lega Nord, has often railed against the EU, and he has said that Lega Nord is willing to do anything to protect Italy’s interest, including going against the EU deficit and GDP rule. He has stated that he wants “fewer constraints from Europe, no to austerity policies, revision of the European treaties and prevalence of the Italian Constitution over the Community law”.

    He is also against the Euro, calling it a failed experiment, he says that a country that does not control its currency is not a free country. This is hardly surprising, Italy is one of the Euro nations that suffered greatly from the GFC and they were unable to take any independent action to alleviate the effects.

    Salvini has hit out against a left wing partnership more europe, saying that to have a name like more europe is like giving whiskey to an alcoholic.

    Salvini has signed a pre-election coalition deal with Berlusconi’s party pledging to end austerity and promising a revision of EU treaties. This coalition, however, has been strained as Savini has presented a number of anti EU economists as candidates, and Berlusconi has promised the EU that Italy would keep its budget deficit within EU limits.

    This is the latest in the growing anti EU feeling in Europe after Brexit, anti EU candidates in France and Netherlands increasing their vote share (though not getting in power), a eurosceptic President in Austria who has appointed an anti EU foreign Minister, and an Anti EU party increasing power in Germany and becoming the third largest party – eating into Merkel’s majority.

    Despite the evidence from elections the europhiles seem to believe that anti EU feeling is not that bad, and is in fact shrinking, and that the UK is an anomaly in Europe by voting to leave. If anyone truly depicts an ostrich with their head in the sand unwilling to see the world as it is, it is the EU elite and europhiles of Europe. They really seem to be oblivious to the fact that they are losing support and popularity.

  5. Blazer

     /  January 24, 2018

    This is what I touched on the other day re the disintegration of the EEC.’He is also against the Euro, calling it a failed experiment, he says that a country that does not control its currency is not a free country. ‘

    • NOEL

       /  January 24, 2018

      “he says that a country that does not control its currency is not a free country. ”
      Count us all in then. Don’t think anybody really has control of a country’s money when it’s floated.

      • Blazer

         /  January 24, 2018

        Wiki…’Most of the money supply is in the form of bank deposits.[1] [2]Bank loans may increase the quantity of broad money to more than the amount of base money issued by the central bank. Governmental authorities, including central banks and other bank regulators, can use policies such as reserve requirements, and capital adequacy ratios to limit the amount of broad money created by commercial banks.

        Central banks may also introduce new money into the economy by issuing coins and notes, and by using expansionary monetary policies such as the purchase of financial assets (quantitative easing) or loans to financial institutions.

        Money issued by central banks is called base money, or reserves, while money issued by commercial banks or other intermediaries is termed broad money.’

  6. Joe Bloggs

     /  January 24, 2018

  7. Joe Bloggs

     /  January 24, 2018

    Who needs Muslimn terrorists when America’s school children have such easy access to guns, and such a predilection for using them…

    https://everytownresearch.org/school-shootings/

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/america-had-a-school-shooting-every-day-this-week-and-its-only-tuesday?ref=home

    • PartisanZ

       /  January 24, 2018

      Tragedy of the ‘Right to Bear Arms’ …

      I haven’t seen anyone try to name this phenomena.

      In an Inverted Totalitarian State, perhaps it might be called ‘Secular-Christian inverse or contra-terrorism’?

      • Joe Bloggs

         /  January 24, 2018

        How about calling it America’s shameful secret?

        After all, the Republicans have created a straw man by exaggerating the dangers of immigrants while they refuse to countenance the larger issues of domestic terrorism and gun control.

        • Gezza

           /  January 24, 2018

          Gun Culture Madness, I call it.

          • PartisanZ

             /  January 24, 2018

            ASS or GCM … both accurate …

            Yet still there’s so much worship out there for “land of the free, home of the brave” …

            • Gezza

               /  January 24, 2018

              Guns everywhere. The US has a permanent, perpetual, internal arms race going on. Gunwise, America is regressing back to the Wild West, but now it’s the Wild Everywhere.

            • PartisanZ

               /  January 24, 2018

              … a permanent, perpetual, internal arms race going on … along with their permanent, perpetual external arms race …

              Arguably Uncle Sam has played a major if not primal role in keeping the world ‘militarized’ since the end of World War One …?

            • Corky

               /  January 24, 2018

              Well, let’s see how we go under China as the worlds sheriff. That will probably come after Trumpy loses office. I’m sure Uncle Chen will have no time for your arguments. Their command will be simple…the state..a gun….get in line or die. Crikey…similar to America, except China wont protect us.

            • Mefrostate

               /  January 24, 2018

              @Corky I replied to your challenge from yesterday

              https://yournz.org/2018/01/23/world-watch-tuesday-32/#comment-247242

            • Corky

               /  January 24, 2018

              Ok, I will give it to you, but it’s not conclusive proof…it is circumstantial evidence.

            • Mefrostate

               /  January 24, 2018

              The claim made by SB was that the people in the video are “young anti-Trump journalists”. On the available evidence (provided by me, it’s worth noting that SB provides none), would you view that statement to be true or false?

            • Corky

               /  January 24, 2018

              Probably true, But,as above.

            • Mefrostate

               /  January 25, 2018

              Right, but you can now see why I said WhaleOil are “absolute trash and nothing they say should be trusted nor shared”

  8. Gezza

     /  January 24, 2018

    Two students have been killed and 12 other people wounded during a shooting at a US high school.

    Kentucky Governor Matt Bevin said the suspected shooter, a 15-year-old boy, was apprehended at the scene and will face murder and attempted murder charges.

    The victims include a 15-year-old girl, pronounced dead at the high school, and a 15-year-old boy, who died at a hospital. Bevin said 12 other people were shot.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/100834186/two-students-dead-12-other-people-wounded-in-us-high-school-shooting

    • Joe Bloggs

       /  January 24, 2018

      an average of one school shooting a week since 2013…

      These shootings are just the tip of the iceberg. A report by the Urban Institute showed that in the single school district of Washington, DC, there were at least 336 gunshots in the vicinity of schools over a single school year.

      http://apps.urban.org/features/everydayviolence/

      yet here we are – debating the potentiality of terrorism committed by Muslim immigrants trying to flee the horrors of their so-called “shithole” home countries.

      • PartisanZ

         /  January 24, 2018

        One of the foundations of any totalitarian society is the conservative populace having some ‘other’ to hate …

        • Corky

           /  January 24, 2018

          A similar foundation exists in socialist countries…always having another to blame and pay for your circumstance.

          • Joe Bloggs

             /  January 24, 2018

            Another one of Corky’s porkies. Evidently you don’t grasp the fundamentals of socialism: social ownership and democratic control of the means of production.

            I might add that socialism embodies a society with a certain basis, a society of equals, but the notion of a society of equals would probably be lost on you.

            • Corky

               /  January 24, 2018

              ”Social ownership and democratic control of the means of production.”

              Ah, that’s why they hate the witch and productive? They should know their place as a worker in a hive of mediocrity.

              ”I might add that socialism embodies a society with a certain basis, a society of equals, but the notion of a society of equals would probably be lost on you.”

              Correct. As the elite in socialist societies show, with their excesses in consumer products and women, a fair society is for saps who believe that propaganda.

            • David

               /  January 24, 2018

              “Evidently you don’t grasp the fundamentals of socialism: social ownership and democratic control of the means of production.”

              Translation; “Give me all your stuff!”

      • Corky

         /  January 24, 2018

        Everything has price. The price for having protection from the government is the above deaths. Never forget Bloggs, you have no defence against the government..zilch. You and your loved ones can be mowed down with impunity…at any time.

        So, no guns means less deaths, right? Well yes, but…

        https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/12/hundreds-of-knives-seized-in-18-months-at-uk-schools-figures-reveal-show-police-england-wales-weapons

  9. More madness in Afghanistan:

  10. Mefrostate

     /  January 24, 2018

    Biden says McConnell stopped the Obama administration from speaking out about Russian interference in the 2016 campaign by refusing to sign on to a bipartisan statement of condemnation.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/23/mitch-mcconnell-russia-obama-joe-biden-359531