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  1. Corky

     /  February 7, 2018

    Mikey is in a lather. Paul Simon is hanging up his pick. The only farewell concert Mikey can attend is at the Hollywood Bowl. Unfortunately he will be on assignment in Britain at the same time. Its never easy being a Rightie.

    Mikey then went on to opine his agreement with Theresa May’s opinion on the nastiness of social media and maybe the need for regulation( gulp). Mikey let slip he receives hate mail every day. He said it didn’t worry him, but it worries others.

    That confirms my opinion that like rust the hate-filled Left never sleeps.

    • robertguyton

       /  February 7, 2018

      “Mikey is in a lather.”
      I see a rabid dog, foam-flecked muzzle, snarling at his own shadow.

    • robertguyton

       /  February 7, 2018

      That confirms my opinion that like rust the hate-filled Right sleeps hanging from the roof of caves.

      • Corky

         /  February 7, 2018

        Don’t hold back Robert. I bet your email was the first in Mikey’s inbox this morning.

        Hey Mikey

        #%#@%^(*( )*%#@@#$$#$ @##$%%^
        @#$%%^^^&&& %^^&&&*& !!!!!@@*&%.

        I hope someone pours sugar in the fuel tank of your Porsche.
        Have a horrible day. Hope your latte sucks.

        No Regards
        Rob.

        • robertguyton

           /  February 7, 2018

          You’re a funny fella, Corks! Would you like me to have a go at the email you would have written to “Mikey”? I do enjoy creative writing, as much, I’m sure, as you do, only I put my sugar into that, rather than “Mikey’s” fuel tank. He’s quite well paid, isn’t he? Why doesn’t he drive an electric car? Is it because they don’t go, “ BRRRRRRRM BRRRRRRM !!!!! ?

          • robertguyton

             /  February 7, 2018

            Btw – I’ve never heard or seem him perform but from what I read here and there, I’ve missed nothing.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  February 7, 2018

              You haven’t from the little I have seen of him. ‘He has a guid conceit of himself’.

            • I have and he is an exemplary writer and musician. You’d argue with your shadow ( if it was on your right )

              “I am just a poor boy though my story’s seldom told
              I have squandered my resistance for a pocketful of mumbles,
              Such are promises, all lies and jest,
              Still a man hears what he wants to hear
              And disregards the rest….”

    • duperez

       /  February 7, 2018

      Hosking saying he gets hate mail every day confirms your opinion that like rust the hate-filled Left never sleeps? You reckon saying that confirms as much about your perspective on life as it it does about Hosking or those you label the ‘Left’?

      (Did Hosking let slip that he says dumb and hateful stuff just about every day? Or is that just taken for granted?)

    • lurcher1948

       /  February 7, 2018

      Yawn…so mikey has to go to a wedding when he wanted to go and see a relic from the past bailout from his singing career, and gasp he receives hate mail…so he gets mine good

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 7, 2018

        I dislike him so much that I prefer not to think about him, still less feed his ego by writing to him.

  2. Corky

     /  February 7, 2018

    Here’s one for Parti. Warning- Foul Language.

    • Blazer

       /  February 7, 2018

      well Corky…is George a rightie…or a ..leftie?

      • Corky

         /  February 7, 2018

        Good question. Seems everyone is getting a serve.

      • High Flying Duck

         /  February 7, 2018

        He was a liberal, but didn’t vote. Definitely not Republican though…

        And his quote is relevant to Corky & Gezza’s ongoing disagreement about voting:

        “I have solved this political dilemma in a very direct way: I don’t vote. On Election Day, I stay home. I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. Now, some people like to twist that around. They say, ‘If you don’t vote, you have no right to complain,’ but where’s the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they get into office and screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You voted them in. You caused the problem. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote — who did not even leave the house on Election Day — am in no way responsible for that these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess that you created.”

        • Corky

           /  February 7, 2018

          God rest his soul.

        • phantom snowflake

           /  February 7, 2018

          That pretty much settles it, definitely a win to Corky. So that’s Corky 1 – Gezza 37

          • robertguyton

             /  February 7, 2018

            Damn! Corky’s on the rise!

            • Gezza

               /  February 7, 2018

              It was a hard ask to beat him in the fantasy category.

            • Gezza

               /  February 7, 2018

              Well done Corky. I’ll be magnanimous in defeat.
              If Carlin wasn’t such a bloody whinger I’d have had a perfect score.

  3. robertguyton

     /  February 7, 2018

    “So, we all know in our hearts that rodeo is wrong. But with Michael Laws speaking up for it, we now know it’s got to be even wrong-er than we originally thought…….”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11988993
    Ed
    The broken-legged bull, hauling itself off to be shot may also have been the straw that broke the camel’s back – mixed metaphor but we shall see.

  4. lurcher1948

     /  February 7, 2018

    The mafia kiss of death, well more like the latte one,hosking endorses a green candidate,end of career…
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/02/hosking_endorses_genter.html

  5. lurcher1948

     /  February 7, 2018

    Doesn’t Farrar EVER check his blog, or is he bored with it? the patients are running the show with no medicine in sight…

    Rich Prick
    I’m sorry, I just can’t stomach Cindy, The Baby, her placenta nor her shallow and empty slogans. So that pretty much rules out all NZ broadcast news. Can’t they just leave that stuff to the slags’ mags?

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    • What’s wrong with that sentiment? It mirrors the way at least 45% of us feel. I’m not remotely interested in her baby. I’m not interested in her boyfriend and his insinuating himself everywhere. I’m only interested in her ability to represent our country at home and internationally. I’m interested in her integrity and hopefully her achievements; she achieved literally nothing in nine years of opposition and didn’t even bother to learn Te Reo ( see her maiden speech) as she swanned about the place. By the way did you know that child “poverdy” ( supposedly the only reason she got into parliament ) didn’t even rate a mention in her maiden speech , whereas compulsory Te Reo did.

      Having a baby is so normal most of we women do it. Being a PM, otoh, is quite extraordinary. Get serious about it and do it without the bacon butties, the fishhook instagramming, the constant magazine articles including US Vogue, the earnest grandstanding and virtue signaling. I want a serious PM not a Kardashian

  6. PartisanZ

     /  February 7, 2018

    Good news …?

    ‘First shipment of NZ avocados arrives in China’ – NZHerald

    “The first airfreighted consignment of fresh New Zealand avocados has landed in China …”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11989601

    It makes economic sense to airfreight avocados to China?

    FantasyLand … the happiest kingdom of them all … still rules at Disneconomy …?

    • Gerrit

       /  February 7, 2018

      If the Chinese market can carry the extra air freight cost than yes it is brilliant for New Zealand’s balance of payment deficit, it is brilliant for the growers, for their employees, for the state in the extra taxes that float into the coffers (company, local PAYE and GST).

      Brilliant for the airline that flies the avocados and brilliant for all the other exporters of highly perishable fresh produce that can piggy back on the airlines capacity that the avocados shipment enables.

      No losers in that. Capitalist marketing at it’s finest.

    • Corky

       /  February 7, 2018

      What’s good about it? Have you seen the crap they sell in shops? Mainly bruised seconds. Or that ghastly Reed variety.

      • Gerrit

         /  February 7, 2018

        Then there is a market for quality fruit in New Zealand. So set up an orchard and fulfill that demand. Be entrepreneurial.

        Unless you are advocating that the state dictates who to and for how much you sell your avocado crop?

        Avocados from local fruit and vegetable shops are first class here in deepest dark South Auckland. I guess it depends on where you shop.

        • Corky

           /  February 7, 2018

          I have. I have planted two avacardo trees, but they are three years away from production.

          Why don’t you set up an Orchard? And save me the trouble. How’s that for being entrepreneurial.

          • Gerrit

             /  February 7, 2018

            Have my own projects underway plus more in development. Green fingers are not my forte, leave that up to people like Robert Guyton. We must work to our individual strengths.

            Now if you need a descent drill sharpening jig, that would be right up my alley.

            Design done, prototype being made, assembled and tested, marketing and production next.

  7. Kitty Catkin

     /  February 7, 2018

    I have reservations about the HIV prevention drug being funded at a potential $1000 a month for 4000 people-isn’t that $4,000,000 a month or $48,000,000 a year for something that people could be doing for themselves by practicing safe sex ? Nobody now can not know this.

    • phantom snowflake

       /  February 7, 2018

      There is no completely safe sex; a small but significant number of condoms break. The group most likely to be at risk are sex workers, as they are the highest users of condoms.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 7, 2018

        If they are stored and used properly, they have a 98% effectiveness rate. As I understand it, tearing and breaking happen when they are stored and used wrongly.

        I don’t like the taxpayer being landed with this massive amount so that people can have UNsafe sex ad lib, as the drug isn’t like a vaccination and won’t necessarily stop people becoming HIV and costing who knows how much, as well as having an incurable condition. It can be alleviated and stabilised, it can’t be cured.

        • phantom snowflake

           /  February 7, 2018

          I think you’ll find that the 98% you have quoted refers to their effectiveness at preventing pregnancy, not the same as their effectiveness at preventing HIV/STDs. I can assure you that some condoms which have been stored and used properly do break. As I have suggested, the group most likely to be provided this new medication are sex workers. There’s no point arguing that they don’t deserve the drug, providing it to them is a sensible measure in preventing the spread of the virus amongst the wide cross section of society with whom they “interact”.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  February 7, 2018

            If they keep out sperm, it’s irrelevant whether it’s gay or straight sex.

            • Gezza

               /  February 8, 2018

              Unfortunately Kitty HIV’s already out there in the general population. You can get infected via saliva & blood. Dental workers, Police, Emergency Staff, Medical personnel – these may even be among the high risk category of workers too.

    • So, it’s a drug they gave to take as a preventative ? That’s fairly invasive

      • Blazer

         /  February 8, 2018

        don’t forget to prove your belief that Key donated his salary to…charity.Waiting.

        • Three cheers – hyp, hyp hypocrisy to Mr Ad Hominen – don’t hold me to account until you front up with the odd bit of verified conjecture. (excuse the oxymoron). This was widely reported and I have no doubt it is true. Why? With his significant asset base and ability to create capital through investment, this salary is paltry. He’d score a significant tax rebate for charitable donations. Strange as it may seem, the rich are always looking for things to put in the other column!

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 8, 2018

        People have to apply for it. I wonder how many will, in fact. It’s admitting that one engages in risky behaviour and has sex with strangers.

        • phantom snowflake

           /  February 8, 2018

          Taking the moral high ground has never been a successful strategy in combating HIV/AIDS.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  February 8, 2018

            It’s the only way to prevent it, though. I have a dear friend who has it, and it was caught because of unprotected sex with a stranger. The only person who could have prevented it was him, and there is no getting around this. He has had it now for 27 years, which is great-I remember the devastating news, we all thought that it was a death sentence-which it is-and that T’s life was all but over.

            Prevention is a million times better than the awfulness of keeping the effects at bay. People think that because it’s treatable, it’s not so bad-but they don’t know what this means. It’s a never-ending cycle of tests and drugs and while it’s far better than it was, it’s still much more of a hassle than anyone who doesn’t know about it would imagine. I knew someone who died of it, and it was a very unnice death.

            • phantom snowflake

               /  February 8, 2018

              Ok, it looks like I’ll have to spell it out. You seem to be suggesting that measures which may be (reasonably) effective in preventing HIV infection should not be provided to a high-risk group because you don’t approve of their behaviour. What I’m saying is that what you (or I) think of that behaviour is irrelevant; they are a group who potentially may spread HIV throughout our society and we should do something, not moralize! That’s all I have.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  February 8, 2018

              I am not moralising. I am being realistic. I suspect that this drug is not like a vaccination or it wouldn’t be ongoing. So it could well be false security. It won’t do anything to stop STDs. What people do is their business if they are consenting adults. But expecting other people to do without things-and the health budget isn’t made of rubber-to let some people engage in high-risk behaviour needs thinking about. Would you give alcoholics free drinks or druggies free drugs ?

              If this isn’t 100%, there seems little point-condoms are free and nobody would use $1000 worth a month. Well, I hope not.

              Education is essential, not dishing out pills to allow risky behaviour to continue. The dangers of casual sex are not just diseases. The unknown person may be violent or a murderer (less likely, but still a risk) One man who took advantage of a glory-hole in a public dunny and took up the offer of a blow-job from the next cubicle had his penis bitten off. This is not an urban myth, My friend has been beaten up by casual sex partners and I imagine that many people who indulge in this behaviour have had this happen. His HIV was the result of what would have considered rape had the other man broken in rather than been with him with his consent, although he didn’t consent to what happened (use your imagination)

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  February 8, 2018

            I do not think that it’s the taxpayer’s responsibility to pay $48,000,000 a year to let people have unsafe sex.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 8, 2018

        And as it only lessens the chances, I have fears of it giving false security. In spite of what the AIDS people say, I think that this is a bad idea-apart from the cost.