Anti-Jones petition worse than inflammatory column

Bob Jones wrote a racially inflammatory column for NBR, which was pased by at least one editor who added a subheading ‘Time for a Troll’.

There was an uproar on social media, and NBR likely received some scathing criticism directly. So the column was taken down from the NBR sitre and they decided to dispense with any Jones’ writings, as they have a right to choose to do.

See ‘Māori Appreciation Day’ not appreciated.

But it hasn’t ended there. Someone has started a petition demanding that Jones be stripped of his knighthood.

Change.org:  Strip racist “Sir” Bob Jones of his Knighthood – Read his vile rant here.

Renae Maihi started this petition to Rt. Hon. Jacinda Ardern

On Waitangi Day 2018 the NBR published a vile racist rant by “Sir” Bob Jones on their website. You can read it for yourself below. This pitiful & severely uneducated attack is not to be tolerated in New Zealand, Aotearoa: a country founded on a partnership between 2 peoples. We are better than that. I know we are.

Bob Jones no longer deserves to carry the title of “Sir.” He does not represent us. Our children do not need to read or hear such things. Times up Dinosaur. You are the minority.

In signing this petition we urge you, our Prime Minister the Rt. Hon. Jacinda Ardern to take his Knighthood away from him. It is in your power. Set a precedent for the country & a message that this will not be tolerated & hate speech of this type is not welcome here.  Kia kaha tātou.

Jones’ ‘rant’ was then quoted in full.

What Maihi has done, along those indignant protesters on social media who revived and circulated his column after NBR took it down, is give it a far bigger audience than it would have had with just the NBR paying audience. It went from a limited paywalled audience to anyone who wanted to be offended. It made the six o’clock news via the petition.

Petitions are simple to set up online, you only need to type and click (unless you’re Labour or the Greens or National who set up petitions as a means of harvesting contact information). As a result there are a multitude of pointless petitions. Despite change.org offering the opportunity to run a petition I doubt many of any change much if anything.

The petition comments were people having their say.Like:

Horrible man inciting racism.

Fair enough. But some were at least as bad as what Jones wrote.

Free speech does not give you the right to spew hate. Strip this awful man of whatever honours this country bestowed on him in error. Hes scum!

People like this do not deserve to live in this country…. or at all #OnlyAmericaIsRacist

I don’t feel any affinity for the title, but I’m sure it would piss BJ off immensely to be stripped of it, so let’s make it happen.

bob is an egg. Who is he anyway..??.does he pay his fair share of tax… he is a bigot and probably going senile, at least his pic makes him look 100+. I might start a petition to legalise involuntary euthenasia to deal with these demented types…who are a threat to society….put them out their misery…clearly i jest. He likely has some Maori rellies…they should rally together and go rough him up a bit…just enough to give him a stroke and then he can live out the rest of his amazing life as a cucumber…for now he should remove the one thats deeply wedged up his arse and thank his lucky stars that his ancestors were blessed enough to avoid the buffet …back in the day when much of Polynesia had a penchant for pickled pakeha and missionary mornay…tastes like chicken I hear.

This is an absolute disgrace & should not be tolerated!

There is growing intolerance of people saying controversial things.

This petition is worse than futile – it is another example of an insidious trend, to punish people who say things that others don’t like.

Jones was free to write something inflammatory and stupid. NBR was free to publish it, as they were free to unpublish the online version. And anyone that didn’t like it was free to criticise it and heap scorn on Jones.

But trying to punish Jones by stripping him of his knighthood is worse than writing something stupid, much worse. It is anti-free speech, and deserves scorn and condemnation.

If course Maihi was free to express herself via the petition. I disagree with her aim, strongly, even though I can’t understand why Jones got a knighthood in the first place, that deserves scorn as well. Knighthoods seem to be a dime a dozen for rich people.

This is disgusting. Someone who promotes such abhorrent discrimination should never hold a title that warrants such respect and prestige.

I disagree in part, I don’t think titles hold much respect or prestige.

I might start a petition to call for a ban on stupid petitions. Especially insidious anti-free speech petitions.

He is not a knight or role model for our tamariki, mokopuna from Aotearoa. Go back to where ever you came from.

As far as I know Jones comes from New Zealand, just like Bridget. At least he doesn’t (as far as I know) tell people to piss off out of the country if he disagrees with them.

Nikki is unwittingly contradictory:

I really hope my daughter didn’t read this. I hope this is not the reason she decided to stay home all day on Waitangi Day. All children deserve to live in a world without prejudice, a world where all people feel accepted, where rave, gender, gender identity, sexuality, and any other reason that makes up a human bi, is not used to exclude. We should be practising inclusiveness. Sir belongs to someone who is honourable and honours our country. It doesn’t belong to him.

Inclusiveness surely means accepting that some people should be able to say things you don’t like.

I suspect there is a typo – “a world where all people feel accepted, where rave…is not used to exclude”.

Who has raved and tried to exclude the most – Jones or the petitioners?

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124 Comments

  1. Blazer

     /  February 9, 2018

    Jones is nearly dead.He has always liked the sound of his own voice.When he dies the real Bob Jones will be…revealed…not nice.

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    • Gezza

       /  February 9, 2018

      I actually found his Obituary last night! It readeth thusly:
      … … … … …

      The Obituary of Sir Robert Jones – died 1 April 2134

      Sir Robert Jones, the world’s oldest man, is dead. He was 194.

      A shy fellow, Jones was happiest alone in the Tongariro River tickling trout, emerging from time to time to present his cherished beliefs about sunglasses, grey shoes, cellphones and unattractive feminists.

      For more than a century and a half he wrote a column for the FoxNZ Herald; a record bested only by the fictional “Shelley Bridgeman” character.

      Born middle-aged, Jones was teased at school for wearing a smoking jacket and pipe, but the taunts fell away as his capacity for a left hook developed. By the age of 17 he had read every book ever written — twice — and owned 5700 investment properties.

      Sunning himself in the warm glow of his success, he resolved to spend the remaining years of his life dabbling in property and sharing his wisdom with his fellow man. Women were also welcome to listen.

      He became a talkback host, a columnist, an author, a commentator, a knight of the realm, a brawler with TV reporters.

      Decades came, decades went. Politicians came, politicians went. New Zealand, once prosperous, grew poor. Foot and mouth disease liquidated the country’s 200 million dairy cows.

      Through it all, one constant remained: Sir Bob Jones and his opinions on sunglasses, grey shoes, cellphones and unattractive feminists. His popularity never ebbed. For every old curmudgeon who breathed his last in a retirement home, another dudebro would pick up a newspaper for the first time and chuckle at Jones’ dyspeptic musings.

      Nothing, it seemed, would ever change. But in Jones’ 12th decade it did, a little. He decided his true calling was the law.

      The courtroom had long been his second home — a boxing ring of a softer kind — and he enjoyed the company of barristers. He admired their arrogance. He admired their bravado. He admired their talent for going about their business fortified by wine.

      By the time he was 142 he was sitting in the Wellington High Court.

      Although he had to be carried to and from the courthouse in a litter, and a factotum was required to lift his papers and hold his hand steady for signatures, his pronouncements from the bench were invariably those of a much older man, as they had ever been.

      Legal scholars called his florid and discursive judgments the best sport since Lord Denning. “Ten days ago,” one judgment began, “the sky fell in Auckland, judging by the hysterical over-the-top reaction.”

      Radio hosts stood by each morning to find out “who Bob’s going to stick it to today”.

      “You’re not some kind of feminist girl are you?” he would ask witnesses, “because you sound like a very silly one.”

      “Life is full of risks, which is why we buy insurance, wear seat belts, lock our doors, don’t holiday in Somalia or, as plainly needs to be said, walk alone through dark parks at night,” he would invariably remind assault victims.

      His Friday afternoon sentencing sessions became a Wellington tradition. Spectators would eat popcorn as Sir Robert rasped: “You will now reside at our expense in prison for 70 years where hopefully some awful fate will befall you. Take his cellphone away, but let him keep his grey shoelaces.”

      Sir Robert will be buried at his holiday home on Mars.

      First published in Metro, November 2013. Illustration by Daron Parton.

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    • Trevors_elbow

       /  February 9, 2018

      Simon says…..

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  2. Gerrit

     /  February 9, 2018

    The one quote referenced in the posting that starts with “bob is an egg” and includes the nice sentiment “legalise involuntary euthenasia to deal with these demented types” and such lovely hate speech as ” He likely has some Maori rellies…they should rally together and go rough him up a bit…just enough to give him a stroke and then he can live out the rest of his amazing life as a cucumber…”

    Has the 3 full stop between words for emphasis so beloved by Blazer.

    Same person?

    Intolerant tolerance much?

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    • Blazer

       /  February 9, 2018

      Jones is the type of redneck that would be embraced by Terre-Blanche and hi….s Afrikaan followers.

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    • Pickled Possum

       /  February 9, 2018

      I love the 3 dog night … 3 dot line … I use it instead of alot of words rightly or wrongly. I would never call for some one to have a stroke and live their life out as a cucumber nor would blaza imo. That is just a wrong conclusion born out of desperation. Bob jones is a dickhead I knew him years ago when he lived in the hills of wellyweird when he had his sign on the gate tresspassers shot survivors the dogs will eat… He loves women but women quickly lose their love for him. Daily ridicule and scorn heaped upon their heads is boring and tiring…

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      • Corky

         /  February 9, 2018

        Didn’t stop that Maori who beat the shit out of his gardener…cuz.

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        • Pickled Possum

           /  February 9, 2018

          Give us a link on the gardner or sloth back to your pit.
          I have repeatedly told you You are not my cuz,
          why would you want to be mine?

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          • Corky

             /  February 9, 2018

            I heard Jones himself tell the story in the late 90s, if I remember the date correctly. On Lindsay Perigo’s talkback slot.. Whether it made the news , I dont know. I know a police report was filed.

            So, either Jones was telling truth, or he lied. You call it, bro.

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          • Gezza

             /  February 9, 2018

            Why are you calling her bro? She’s a wahine.

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          • Corky

             /  February 9, 2018

            Gezza asks a reasonable question: ”Why are you calling her bro?” In many Maori communities the term ‘bro’ is unisex. It’s not uncommon to hear woman refer to each other as bro.

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          • Pickled Possum

             /  February 9, 2018

            bro meaning … North American A male friend (often used as a form of address)
            ‘they’d never choose a girl over their bros… bros before hose’
            ‘not cool, bro’

            Origin
            Mid 17th century: written or colloquial abbreviation of brother. Compare with Bros.

            Corkey says, “It’s not uncommon to hear woman refer to each other as bro”.
            Shit! here I was thinking you are a man but really your a woman!

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            • Corky

               /  February 9, 2018

              You definitely aren’t a Maori. A troll, yes. For the life of me I don’t know what North America has to do with it. Or the words origin. What is important is how the word is used here. I explained that, but you decided to go off on a tangent and explain everything but.

              More work needed on your act.

            • Pickled Possum

               /  February 9, 2018

              Troll
              Before the Internet, there were the mythical Trolls of old who ate farmer’s goats.

              After that, there were and are the semi-human versions of trolls that still exist today in all regions throughout the world.

              Trolls can be divided into groups depending on where they live, such as Beach Trolls, Hill Trolls, City Trolls, Suburban Trolls, Valley Trolls and a couple other categories which take on unique characteristics depending on their surroundings.

              All trolls are socially predatory creatures and when young are usually obsessed with their exterior appearances, while neglecting development of their blackening souls.

              Their interior ugliness comes out as they age, and they, usually, let their outer appearances go to hell, so that they are easily recognizable. But, the young and middle-aged trolls will sometimes fool you with their charm.

              All trolls are shysters and tight-fisted money grubbers who will screw you on any deal while making it out like you are the one coming out ahead. They will usually always greet you with a smile and a handshake. Sometimes, they will call you “brother” or “lady” to throw you off track.

              All trolls are shit stirrers, lechers & trouble-makers. They would be the first to try and get your “significant other” in the sack, screw you out of some money or slander you.
              Wow, Nicole just screwed me over. What an evil, old troll.

            • Gezza

               /  February 9, 2018

              I’ve met Possum. So has Sir Alan. Definitely a Maori.
              Whereas you, Corky, who knows?

            • Corky

               /  February 9, 2018

              Ok, I’ll accept she is a Maori, albeit a strange one, if Alan confirms she is. .

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 9, 2018

              No stranger than anyone else here, IMO, Corky, and definitely not stranger than Sir Gerald.

            • Corky

               /  February 9, 2018

              And is PP a Maori?

            • Pickled Possum

               /  February 9, 2018

              How would he really know if I am Maori even tho we have spent time in each others company I could just have a great tan and be in the know about somethings Maori like some people. Where as Al well with his limited knowledge of Maori could steer stare you in the wrong direction then you would be a lost troll.

            • Corky

               /  February 9, 2018

              I’ll take that as a no.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 9, 2018

              I’ve no reason to dispute Sir Gerald’s conclusion unless Possum wishes to. From the bits I could see she has a good tan and the stories she told match the whakapapa she claims.

            • Corky

               /  February 9, 2018

              So she could be an Italian who takes Maori lessons. You live up North? Is that correct?

            • Pickled Possum

               /  February 9, 2018

              Authenticated by the man from Kororareka. What an honour.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 9, 2018

              The honour is mine, PP, as was the pleasure of your company.

            • Corky

               /  February 9, 2018

              Just as well Alan is kosher with your whakapapa, eh PP. 😄.

            • Gezza

               /  February 9, 2018

              She looks Maori. She speaks Maori. She thinks Maori. She can recite her whakapapa to her waka tipuna. Whether you believe her or not is irrelevant. She knows who she is. Her iwi knows who she is. Maori know she’s Maori whenever & wherever they encounter her. But continue to make a fool of yourself accusing her of being an impostor if you wish. Maori would quickly work out which of you is the impostor.

            • Pickled Possum

               /  February 9, 2018

              Oh Gez I couldn’t love you more right now. A brother coming to a sister’s (insert correct syntax or word here) I cannot see for the tears No Really Thank you.

              and that concludes today’s sitcom of The troll who came out from the bridge to No wharkingwhere.

            • Corky

               /  February 9, 2018

              ”She looks Maori. She speaks Maori. She thinks Maori. She can recite her whakapapa to her waka tipuna. Whether you believe her or not is irrelevant”

              That is all Alan had to say from the get go. What was so hard about that?
              You guys are so busy with bs, you trip yourselves up.

              But I don’t mind. The more the merrier.

          • Pickled Possum

             /  February 9, 2018

            Italiano my dear chap how could I have whakapapa to the East coast if I wasn’t a Maori. Oh gosh this is like shooting fish in a barrel … rain stopped see you guys later … Miss is on to yous now and she gonna get yous all ha de ha

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            • Pickled Possum

               /  February 9, 2018

              kosher
              ˈkəʊʃə/Submit
              adjective
              1.
              (of food, or premises in which food is sold, cooked, or eaten) satisfying the requirements of Jewish law.
              “a kosher kitchen”
              2.
              informal
              genuine and legitimate.
              “she consulted lawyers to make sure everything was kosher”
              verb
              1.
              prepare (food) according to the requirements of Jewish law.

    • Corky

       /  February 9, 2018

      You beat me to the punch. Only the Left write that way. Their words have a special nastiness Righties can never quite match.

      The saddest quote for me was: ”. Times up Dinosaur. You are the minority..”

      That’s basically true. Bob represents a generation who could write and and generally think rationally by way of common sense. His generation had to earn power. Now any prat may wield power by way of social media. Truly, the village idiot is now a sage.

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    • Gezza

       /  February 9, 2018

      I had a read of a few pages of the comments last nite. I thought the one who wrote “needs a bullet” might’ve gone a bit far. Needs a rotten tomato might’ve sufficed. I don’t understand why people can’t see the delicious humour in all this. Filfy witch, offensive, misogynistic, politically connected racist big mouth, darling of the alt right pens inflammatory column repeating his oft-espoused abuse of ethnic group & hopes to get away with it again by calling it satire. Ballses up, turns situation into even bigger satire.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 9, 2018

        Corky has said that he is half-Maori. I hate to think what the other half is.

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  3. Apparently the freedom of speech much touted by the left is not for any who are not and have a dissenting view.
    Bob gets free advertising.
    Ever the businessman looking for a profit..
    🙂

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    • Gezza

       /  February 9, 2018

      Supported by all the alt righties, ever looking for a prophet.

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    • PartisanZ

       /  February 9, 2018

      Seems to me that everyone involved has exercised their “freedom of speech” … I can’t see what the problem is?

      Is it that Sir Bob has lost his column at NBR … which I guess must be such a major part of his income?

      Is it that the editors of NBR … people I imagine are just like you George, “looking for a profit” … have taken the column down …?

      Is it that people protested … Yet here you are protesting …?

      Sir Bob gets free advertising for WHAT? His next column somewhere else? Kiwi FrontLine perhaps? Oh … No … he’s already on there! Sorry, no offence meant. So we already know he supports ideas like that Maori population decline 1800 – 1900 was ENTIRELY due to “Maori genocide” – the so-called ‘Musket Wars’ – and “Daughter Slaughter” …

      I notice he doesn’t put the title ‘Sir’ on Kiwi FrontLine … one of a number of anti-Maori race-hate group’s internet mouthpieces … I wonder why? There he is among all those prominent names … Don Brash … Hugh Barr … Alan Duff … et al …

      HATE ON guys! … See you next Tuesday sometime …

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  February 9, 2018

        He apparently wrote the column gratis, as a favour to the publisher, and it was him who has withdrawn his services rather than losing it.

        The full column is up at WO for those willing to hold their nose.

        It’s mostly a good lighthearted read, but the Maori appreciation day is a jarring exception.
        That said, it is clearly a failed attempt at humour.

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        • Gezza

           /  February 9, 2018

          I wouldn’t say it’s a failed attempt at humour. I can certainly see the funny side now.

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        • PartisanZ

           /  February 9, 2018

          No … I thoroughly disagree … it’s a failed attempt at hate speech thinly disguised as ‘humour’ … which is not humourous at all …

          He belongs to the same anti-Maori race-hate group[s] as Brash & his [few] minions …

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          • High Flying Duck

             /  February 9, 2018

            I don’t think Bob’s a racist. He just speaks his mind about institutions he feels are ridiculous, which encompasses all races and cultures.

            As Paul Mood said:

            Historian and Auckland University Professor Paul Moon said he wasn’t offended and understood it to be satire.

            Historian and AUT Professor Paul Moon says if Sir Bob Jones’ objective was to get people talking about Waitangi Day, he’s achieved it.

            “I might be wrong but I absolutely interpreted it as a form of satire, I don’t think he was at all serious. It’s just satire, he’s done it before.

            “It goes back to Roman times you make a point about something or highlight aspects of it by coming up with something so ridiculous that people revisit everything and I don’t think that he was at all serious. But I’m guessing that, I’m not sure, but that’s my sense of it anyway.”

            He believed Jones had succeeded in his objective, if that was his goal, in getting people talking about Waitangi Day.

            “In this case rather than instruct people and say ‘we should examine the day’ and ‘why do we have these rituals’ … instead of being a bit boring like that you come up with something so provocative that people react and in that reaction they identify with what they really think about something.”

            Moon said it appeared some people had taken the column at face value, which he believed was wrong.

            “I’m absolutely sure it’s not intended to be that at all because it’s written in a style that deliberately crosses so many borders it’s not serious and I think people who take it seriously might need to take some medication, perhaps.”

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            • Gezza

               /  February 9, 2018

              I’m sure Sir Bob & Paul recognise that the comments on the petition are statirical too. The ones that deliberately cross so many borders they can’t be serious. This is just a huge satire. Right down to Sir Bob telling 1ewes yesterday he wouldn’t do an interview because he’s just had an eye operation. Everybody needs to get over it. He loves to be obnoxious & provocative & just about everybody’s having a high old time now so everybody should be happy – right? If not – tuff. Satire can miss the mark completely when it’s only satire to some people.

            • PartisanZ

               /  February 9, 2018

              So Paul Moon – a professional, academic ‘expert’ – provides you with your confirmation bias ‘medication’ this time HFD …

              And the big deal about that is ….. ???

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 9, 2018

              It’s ok, G. The idiots can have it explained to them eventually.

            • PartisanZ

               /  February 9, 2018

              I’d stick with your “Looney Lefties” cop-out Alan, if I was you … the “idiots” thing is looking decidedly idiotic … a hole you can only dig deeper and deeper for yourself …

            • High Flying Duck

               /  February 9, 2018

              Gezz – so satire has to be humorous to everyone to be satire?
              Perhaps there are certain types who are very easily offended and could use some ridiculing to bring them back to earth?
              Was the Asian restaurant menu that offended so many funny? Was it more offensive than the “Guide to Kiwi” that PG posted? Or the Beached Az cartoons that lampoon NZ language and speech?
              Or Irish Jokes or “3 Rabbi’s walked into a bar” jokes? Or Mitre 10 saying “Aussies – no surprises there?”.

              It seems to me that most groups can take a bit of ribbing without getting all twisted up about it. But some look to find racism and offence in everything.

              Bob walks a fine line, but humour is supposed to push boundaries – Is Jimmy Carr funny, or an asshole who mocks the disabled?

            • Gezza

               /  February 9, 2018

              I’ve been posting satire non-stop since yesterday. How have you missed that?

            • Corky

               /  February 9, 2018

              Yeah, most people know the difference between abuse and humour. They aren’t chronically offended.

            • PartisanZ

               /  February 9, 2018

              @HFD – ” … so satire has to be humorous to everyone to be satire?
              Perhaps there are certain types who are very easily offended …”

              If I accept that, perhaps you have to accept this. “If satire isn’t humorous to some, it isn’t satire to them, but offence, and that perhaps certain types such as race-haters are easily offensive …?”

              You Righties are right here, right now being offended on behalf of ‘Sir’ Bob Jones … who I happen to think should never have been given a Knighthood in the first place …

              All satire and most humour is lost … It’s just getting silly …

            • High Flying Duck

               /  February 9, 2018

              Parti, offence can never be given – only taken. There is no right to not be offended in life.
              People choose whether or not to be offended in any given situation.

              In this situation you have to either believe either that Bob Jones:

              A) Truly believes Maori should polish cars and serve breakfast as a thankyou on Waitangi Day, in which case you are deluded; or

              B) He was joking or making a point through satire.

              If you believe A you are beyond help. If you believe B then you know it is humour (whether you find it funny or not).

              You then decide whether to be outraged or not at a joke.

            • High Flying Duck

               /  February 9, 2018

              Gezz – I know you have been writing satirical posts on this – but the last comment seemed more serious.
              If I misread it, then of course I am greatly offended and will be starting a petition to have you removed from YourNZ.

        • Blazer

           /  February 10, 2018

          ‘In what appears to be a different version of events to Jones’ statement that “I shan’t bother writing any more for NBR”, the source at the publication said the decision to terminate the column was made at its end, and communicated with Jones in a telephone conversation.’..NBR.

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  4. PartisanZ

     /  February 9, 2018

    Better or worse? … the petition is nothing like the inflammatory column … They exist in different universes …

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  February 9, 2018

      Correct. The column is satirical. The petition is hateful. Idiots can’t tell the difference. The world is full of idiots.

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      • Gezza

         /  February 9, 2018

        Which is the satirical bit?

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      • PartisanZ

         /  February 9, 2018

        Wrong Alan … The petition is angry … the column is hateful … race-hateful … racist …

        … but you’re Right about idiots not being able to distinguish differences.

        Now, a statement like “the world is full of idiots” is another universe altogether … the superiority complex universe …

        In the area of anti-Maori race-hate there are a relatively minuscule number of idiots. Kiwi FrontLine, the Klu Klux Klan of NZ, don’t divulge their numbers, but Brash’s ‘Hobson’s Pledge’ does, leastwise in ‘likes’ – 2.4K on the homepage and 71 (that’s seventy one ‘likes’) on the ‘issues’ page … Let’s be generous and say 2000 people …

        That’s 0.044% of the entire population … or about 0.057% of the adult or voter-age population … There might be a few more because pseudo-historians like Moon, Butler & Co can sell enough of the malignant diatribes they call ‘books’ to warrant publishing them … I guess that depends on what they perceive as being a “marketplace” …?

        F*#K … there’s no accounting for the tastes of idiots huh?

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  February 9, 2018

          I see I need to spell it out for you, PZ. The column is challenging the notion that ancestral events should dictate present policies. It has nothing whatever to do with Maori race hate. Screams of racism are just intellectual dishonesty or stupidity.

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          • High Flying Duck

             /  February 9, 2018

            Correct – see Paul Moon’s comment I posted above.

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            • Blazer

               /  February 9, 2018

              Jones isn’t particularly racist…just ask his…Cambodian…maid…ex-maid.

            • PartisanZ

               /  February 9, 2018

              Moon’s perfectly entitled to his opinion … as is Bruce Moon … as are you HFD and me … and Paul Moon admits he’s “guessing” …

              I wonder if he’s read Kiwi FrontLine … Sir Bob has 10 blogs on there …

              Hey, place-to-go Righties!

              But okay, let’s be ‘provocative’ and ‘revisit’ Jim Crow racial segregation in the U.S. South by ‘commenting’ about how great it was to have Black maids, ‘Shoeshine Boys’ and the effectiveness of lynchings …

          • PartisanZ

             /  February 9, 2018

            Assuming you agree that ancestral events should NOT dictate present policies, there goes the Magna Carta, ‘Right of Discovery’, Westminster Parliamentary ‘Democracy’ and most of what we loosely call ‘civilization’ eh?

            That is, here in Aotearoa New Zealand, EXCEPT for a certain Treaty …

            It may not be correct to say those who think it ISN’T race hate are “idiots” Alan … They are the people with massive vested interest in the injustice and iniquity of it … the one’s who don’t want to share power as promised in the Treaty, and who will fight until they pass away not to share power …

            So yeah, okay, they’re not idiots … they’re just behaving idiotically …

            Doesn’t change the race hate one iota.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 9, 2018

              Democracy is sharing power, PZ. The Magna Carta principle is shared by all, not just those with the right genes and ancestors. That is exactly the point.

            • PartisanZ

               /  February 9, 2018

              Oh God … Really!? So the Magna Carta, just as an example, is NOT one of ‘our’, British “ancestral events” …

              Honestly … You must be fucken kidding …

            • PartisanZ

               /  February 9, 2018

              Te Tiriti, for that matter, is one of OUR ancestral events …

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 9, 2018

              You’ve missed the point as usual, PZ. Go back and look for it.

            • PartisanZ

               /  February 9, 2018

              I trust my own emotellect Alan …

              If you want me to get YOUR point … You’ll have to point it out …

              This is getting very tedious and accusatory so I’m off for a while to do other things …

        • Corky

           /  February 9, 2018

          You forgot the silent majority, Parti.

          Reply
          • PartisanZ

             /  February 9, 2018

            You’re referring, presumably, to the legendary, fabled &/or fictitious silent majority who have just two real-world options … 1) Make themselves known … or 2) Be forgotten …

            Since they don’t make themselves known you are correct, I forgot them …

            That is one thing to be said for the Kiwi FrontLine crew …. They’re prepared to smear their own names with their own excrement …

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            • Corky

               /  February 9, 2018

              You seem to have forgotten the Orewa speech. While many Kiwis would support your point of view ( publicly acceptable), many don’t. They know they aren’t mainstream, but given half the chance to to express or implement their agenda’s anonymously, they would. They wouldn’t be forgotten then.

              Your worldview is tenuous at best.

            • sorethumb

               /  February 10, 2018

              Brexit. Trump

            • PartisanZ

               /  February 10, 2018

              I’m more than happy to forget Brash’s Orewa ranting …

              “Implement their agendas anonymously” … ? The cowards way.

              Silent majority my socialist arse! Yeah Right, like NZFirst’s Kym Koloni preaching to the converted in Torbay during the election campaign … and her Paula Hansen-like hate speech was greeted with chants of “Shame. Shame …” … in East Coast Bays!

              I live in a state of constant terror … There’s so many of you! We only have to look at the current popularity of ACT and The Conservatives … at Hobson’s Pledge and Kiwi FrontLine … at the campaign to free Allan Titford …

              The Real problem is that the Right has already taken over. Since 1984 the ‘Centre’ has moved way to the Right … so Left-of-Centre is probably about where Centre-Right used to be …

            • Corky

               /  February 12, 2018

              “Implement their agendas anonymously” … ? The cowards way.”

              Lol.

  5. Alan Wilkinson

     /  February 9, 2018

    More Sir Bob – hopefully to stir a bit more right-thinking outrage from the Left:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11294575

    Reply
    • Gezza

       /  February 9, 2018

      Read that last night. Old news. Sir Bob’s moved on since then. He’s branched into deeper satire & become a huge success.

      Reply
  6. sorethumb

     /  February 9, 2018

    Times up Dinosaur. You are the minority
    …………………
    This shows the power of the progressive collective in media and academia. Who objectively gauges the views of the public? Since when did governments with an agenda care what people think?
    Orewa proved otherwise.

    Reply
  7. Kitty Catkin

     /  February 9, 2018

    One would have to do a lot more than write a column like this to lose a knighthood. The petition is a waste of time.

    Reply
    • robertguyton

       /  February 10, 2018

      32 000 signed.It probably won’t succeed in its aim, but sure has garnered a lot of support against ol’ Bob.

      Reply
  8. sorethumb

     /  February 10, 2018

    There is a dearth of anti-progressive* bloggers. You could line the progressives up and they would dominate anything with a bit of reader/viewership. One reason is that certain views will get you in or out of a job (to be a librarian you must be culturally safe – a doormat). The other is that it is cool to identify yourself as cosmopolitan, the key thing being that you have skills that can get you country to country and are therefore , not one of the unwashed. Therefore you are the last affected by the sort of things the ordinary people are affected by.
    A main progressive issue: the one that says “Pakeha are not an ethnicity/ diversity is *of immense benefit*” is supported by business NZ : property developpers, banks, lawyers, architects. That is what gives the left an edge.
    ………
    One of the most amazing things about about the last election was that as an anti-immigrationist WP goes back 20 plus years. This election WP thought he had it in the bag – went cuckservative and had the batton snatched from him. But where are the the NZ Firsters who can string an essay together? Has W done no more than build a cult around himself?

    Reply
  9. phantom snowflake

     /  February 10, 2018

    Nope. No shortage of right wing blogs in Aotearoa/New Zealand. Kiwiblog, Whaleoil, True Blue NZ, The Inquiring Mind, PM of NZ, New Zealand Conservative, Lindsay Mitchell’s blog. I could go on…

    Reply
  10. Alan Wilkinson

     /  February 11, 2018

    Jones likely to sue the petition organiser for hate speech:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11992278

    Reply
    • Gezza

       /  February 11, 2018

      lol. I thought that was coming. Bob’s not one to enjoy being satire. I’ll have a read.

      Reply
      • Gezza

         /  February 11, 2018

        More satire from Bob I suspect.
        Would be an interesting case.

        Reply
        • Blazer

           /  February 11, 2018

          must be satire ,too ironic otherwise…’But he planned to sue her on the basis of hate speech.’.

          Reply
      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  February 11, 2018

        Has a fair record of winning court cases. Maihi should brush up on her apologies unless she can score a dumb Lefty ToW judge. A belated discovery of what satire is might help. Suspect Sir Bob’s literature knowledge leaves hers behind.

        Reply
        • Gezza

           /  February 11, 2018

          Likes to throw insults, punches, & money at lawyers. Wondered how long before he treatened to sue. Winning cases is all very well but judges aren’t asked to decide whether he’s an arsehole. Even if they know he is.

          Reply
    • Corky

       /  February 11, 2018

      She used the word, ‘partnership’…sue her. Sir Bob must be getting old. He is not going to sue her for a large amount. Why the mercy? She has none for Sir Bob. Bankrupt the snivelling whiner.

      But again…political correctness meeting political correctness. This is so delicious. Pity Sir Bob probably wont sue.

      Reply
      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  February 11, 2018

        Yes, he should up the stakes and enjoy taking lots of money off all the Lefties who would cough up to help pay her damages.

        Reply
    • Blazer

       /  February 11, 2018

      predictable…he’ll lose this one,although I’d say he’s bluffing this time.

      Reply
      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  February 11, 2018

        I’m looking forward to you helping her pay up, B.

        Reply
        • Blazer

           /  February 11, 2018

          try some therapy…Al…schadenfreude is so….negative.

          Reply
          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  February 11, 2018

            The thought of you not only opening your wallet but donating to Sir Bob is too amusing, B. I don’t need therapy but you would.

            Reply
  11. Charles Lyle

     /  February 14, 2018

    Never heard of her, but who ever Renae Maihi is, she needs to listen to some of the racist
    rants spoken by so called maori at times. Renae get a life, or get lost.

    Reply
  12. Charles Lyle

     /  February 18, 2018

    After reading up on Renae Maihi, I firmly believe that Renae is only out to publisize herself.
    If all the NERDS who attempt to denegrate Sir Robert Jones, were to read his record of what he has done for this country, and many of it’s people, then it is reasonble to think they would change their veiws of him. Of course I’m asuming that a few of them have enough intellect which allow them to do so. However, I don’t believe this is likely to ever happen, as nerds are not well known for common sence. They will just keep on spewing out their filthy words of hate wwithout knowing what they are about. After all the majority who suscribe to these
    cloumns who can’t even sign their full names or are to gutless to do so.

    Yes! Sir RJ ts probabaly a crusty old satirist but does have more intelligence, and more worth to NZ than 100% of his critics. Of course he says many things that get people rattled, but he is to be apllauded for doing so, as NZ need many more like him, and to hell with those who take offence. Offence is only taken not given, so all who do say they do take offence, GET A BLOODY LIFE.

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