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9  February 2018

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27 Comments

  1. David

     /  February 9, 2018

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11990414

    Now we are well into Feb you would think the Herald would bring its editorial in house again rather than leaving it with the Labour comms team. What a stupid lot of absolute nonsense.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  February 9, 2018

      Truly fatuous. Amazing. Maori are happily cemented into the Labour family as permanent “have-nots” with their only ambition to exist on handouts from Government or from their iwi goldmines.

      That’s bound to turn out well.

  2. lurcher1948

     /  February 9, 2018
    • High Flying Duck

       /  February 9, 2018

      Nothing wrong with frugal travelling, but taking advantage of services for the poor and homeless is beyond the pale.
      That’s up there with the Belgian tourist who crashed into someone and then said he wouldn’t pay for her damage because he needed the money for his next trip…http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11987675

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 9, 2018

        Well, how unreasonable of her to expect that someone who prangs her car should pay for it and spoil his holiday.

        I believe that everyone should have some form of insurance-even a tiny amount-but I am on this woman’s side. It was entirely the Belgian’s fault. I know how easy it is for people to look the wrong way automatically when they are used to driving on the other side of the road. We have all done this-nearly been squashed stepping out into the road and been (rightly) abused by the driver who has nearly had a heart attack-but that is no excuse, either. Miserable bugger, I bet he’s Flemish.

  3. robertguyton

     /  February 9, 2018

    “However, English’s claim that he and his Party had had no opportunity for consensus-building on this critical issue affecting New Zealand was convincingly demolished that very same afternoon.

    Not only had Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern approached National last year, seeking consensus and feedback from National – she had done it in writing;”

    .

  4. PartisanZ

     /  February 9, 2018

    ‘Stock Takes: Volatility now the new norm’ – NZHerald

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11990734

    And yet, it turns out, the article actually claims that “historically, volatility has been the norm for sharemarkets.”

    “I conclude, therefore, that a severe imbalance between capitalism and democracy, between commerce and journalism, has occurred, such that capital and commerce dominate democracy and journalism … the main dangers to democracy and journalism now result from excessive capitalist control of the media. Accordingly, the future of American [NZ] journalism and democracy is in dire peril.” – Douglas Kellner ‘Television and the Crisis of Democracy’ (1990)

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1031318.Television_And_The_Crisis_Of_Democracy

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  February 9, 2018

      Volatility is a statistical measurement, not a norm. Government control of the media is a much worse threat to democracy

  5. Blazer

     /  February 9, 2018

    food for thought…
    ‘ We must agree that we need to produce as of our requirement and not for corporate profit. Surplus production does not serve any purpose of human welfare other than creating surplus value for capitalists. We must reduce the eight-hour work-day according to our needs.
    Prem Mathrani is based in Dubai (UAE). He has written more than 50 articles in Sindhi on “Economic Dictatorship and Exploitation in Capitalist Business Organisations”,

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  February 9, 2018

      The totalitarian “we” that means “you” must do this to satisfy “my” fantasies.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 9, 2018

        Surplus production of some things does indeed serve a purpose. In an emergency, I’d like to know that there wasn’t only enough for the next day by way of food and other essentials.

  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  February 9, 2018

    With Labour, expect to see more rules to stop NZers doing anything.

    It will be harder to build anything,
    harder to employ anyone,
    harder to rent to anyone,
    harder to visit,
    harder to immigrate,
    harder to teach people,
    harder to run a business,
    harder to buy a house,
    harder to get a job,
    harder to drive to work or anywhere else,
    harder to search for or mine minerals,
    harder to use water,
    harder to own and enjoy pets,
    harder to cut down a tree.

    Eventually the worms will turn.

    • High Flying Duck

       /  February 9, 2018

      Worms are fickle beasts Alan – especially the one that got 7 MP’s in on Peter Dunne’s coat-tails one election.
      It’s not the harder that will get them. It’s the fact they are setting themselves up for a fall by setting targets in poverty and environmentalism while legislating to make them worse.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  February 9, 2018

        It’s legislating to improve the economy by destroying it that will get them. Or failing to do so and thereby causing Saint Jacinda to become the target of the loony Left instead of their heroine. Meanwhile she is choosing baby clothes. Happy days.

    • Corky

       /  February 9, 2018

      It’s all about…being like North Korea.😨

    • Blazer

       /  February 9, 2018

      ‘harder to rent to anyone’……interesting…AL.

    • “harder to search for or mine minerals, harder to cut down a tree.”
      Oh, boo hoo you!

    • lurcher1948

       /  February 9, 2018

      WRONG BLOG Alan Wilkinson try WOBH or kiwiblog they do whining better than here

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  February 9, 2018

        Just stating the facts, Lurch. I don’t see any disagreement with my list yet. You can draw you own conclusions as to the consequences.

      • Gerrit

         /  February 9, 2018

        Is it not for Pete George to decide, as blog owner, what goes and what does not?

        Might pay you to read the contents in the “about” tab.

        “This blog won’t be politically moderated – that means any political views can be expressed.”

  7. lurcher1948

     /  February 9, 2018

    KITTY i have adopted a new dog, a beautiful parti colored heading dog girl,3 years old a failed farm dog,When we got her ,NOT TOILET TRAINED:) she is a blank canvas, complete,no vaxs,not toilet trained, but gentle and smart, so far ,chipped,ALL vaxs,lep,para,and kennel cough wormed and being speyed on Monday,DAMN shes a pretty girl,DIDNT WORK STOCK GOOD ENOUGH for her old owner, ITS A WHOLE NEW WORLD FOR HER,,REDs put her in her place but because shes complete its rattling his brains, the new dog in our family

    • lurcher1948

       /  February 9, 2018

      The rural world DONT LOOK AFTER THEIR DOGS,THEIR EMPLOYEES, think bad prisons,BAD

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 9, 2018

        What’s her name ?

        Most farmers do look after their dogs-if for no other reason than that these are essential workers. And farm workers are well paid now and often have perks. It’s the employers who have trouble with the workers, quite often. The farm dogs across the road have a lovely life, I see them travelling in style on the farm vehicles, to the great envy of mine.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  February 9, 2018

          I even see them in the digger part of (JCBs ?) riding along to work.

  8. lurcher1948

     /  February 9, 2018

    larry williams the X traffic officer,the voice of NZME seems to be upset that the rort of the charter schools is finished, so much money for an ACT bribe, sad really

  9. sorethumb

     /  February 9, 2018

    Victor Davis Hanson : Why Trump Isn’t Going Away