General chat

“Is there any way we could have a thread for the more lightweight stuff like music and general chat?”

Do it here. Please no personal attacks or bickering. Anything abusive, provocative or inflammatory may be deleted.

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  1. Blazer

     /  February 12, 2018

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  2. Kitty Catkin

     /  February 12, 2018

    It’s in the 30s and humid again. I can hear and smell mowing-some masochist is out there. I was sweltering just doing some painting, so the jungle-er, I mean lawn-can wait.

    There are few sadder sights than a dog’s face when he realises that he is going to have to go out in the rain to have a pee last thing at night.

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    • MaureenW

       /  February 12, 2018

      Gee Kitty, if you wish to retain your notoriety as YNZ grammar troll, you should re-write your post. I have no idea what you’re talking about. Is it some kind of free-form poetry?

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 12, 2018

        No, of course not. I am sorry that you have problems with comprehension of such basic statements-you appear not to understand the request at the top of General Chat, either.

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        • MaureenW

           /  February 12, 2018

          Oh, I see now, it’s your incorrect use of punctuation characters and spacing that is upsetting the flow of your proses. (I get the gist of what you were meaning to say:)

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  February 12, 2018

            What on earth are you talking about ? My use of punctuation is perfectly correct. The hyphen is a long established punctuation mark.So are commas, full stops, and apostrophes. These are all used in the right way in my prose. Prose as a noun doesn’t have a plural. ‘Proses’ is only correct when it is used as a verb-‘Mr Jones proses on.’

            There is no need for spacing when the subject hasn’t changed.

            There is nothing sillier than someone criticising something for being incorrect when it is not.Please check before you try to sound clever.

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            • Gezza

               /  February 12, 2018

              No, you incorrectly use the hyphen in place of an em dash. It’s a repeated typographical error that you persist with.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  February 12, 2018

              Oh-they are the same thing, at least on the keyboard. Look on the keyboard, you will only find the -. Mine only has -, anyway. I can’t use a symbol that’s not ON the keyboard. One cannot join two together.

            • Gezza

               /  February 12, 2018

              So, there are three nonsense hyphenated words in your first comment:
              1. mowing-some – this is confusing & meaningless
              2. jungle-er – this is also confusing & meaningingless, I first read that as meaning “more of a jungle”, and then had to deduce that you meant jungle … er … lawn
              3. lawn-can – this means a can of or for lawn.

              I’ve pointed this consistent typograhical error of yours out several times. You need to check some typographical references for the correct usage of hyphens – and dashes.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  February 12, 2018

              The computer only has the – , so it has to be one size fits all. The one symbol has to do service for hyphen and dash. It’s above the _.

            • Gezza

               /  February 12, 2018

              *meaningless

            • Gezza

               /  February 12, 2018

              Re your comment the computer (presumably keyboard) only has the – so it must be used as a hyphen to substitute for an em dash. If you check some typography references and read news articles or even typewritten documents you will not find them using a hyphen to signal an em dash the way you do.

              That is because it is then a hyphen & it always joins the two words.

              There are typographical conventions governing this & using a hyphen the way you do to indicate an em dash is simply incorrect. It’s a typographical error.

              Alternatives are – this (with a space either side)
              or–this, a newspaper convention
              or – in WordPress and MS Word or similar Wordprocessing programs typing two hyphens will cause the program to create a en dash (which is two hypens long in typography), and typing three hyphens will cause the programme to create an em dash (which is three hyphens long in typography).

              IMO the simplest way to correct this constant typograhical mistake you make is to do what most people do nowadays and – very simply – do a space before and after the hyphen.

              As long as you simply put a hyphen in directly between two words you are creating a hyphenated word & expecting everyone else to interpret that as an em dash. But it’s not. It’s a hyphenated word.

            • Gezza

               /  February 12, 2018

              * re “or–this, a newspaper convention” – that was typed as two hyphens together, but WordPress turned it into an en dash – longer than a hyphen.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 12, 2018

        If you did understand what I was saying, why did you say that you had no idea ?

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        • MaureenW

           /  February 12, 2018

          I believed you were prosing on.

          Only did I get the gist after I had read it 5 times and I do so love a chat about grammar.

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  3. Kitty Catkin

     /  February 12, 2018

    You had to read FIVE TIMES that it was very hot-in the 30s*-that someone near me was mowing a lawn**-that I wasn’t, because it was too hot-before you understood it ? Why ? How can anyone not understand such a simple statement ?

    It’s rubbish to say that you think that I was prosing on-you misunderstand and/or misuse the word. Proses is the present tense of the third person singular (he or she) of the verb. ‘The flow of your proses’ is meaningless, as the proses (sic) cannot possibly be referring to the present tense of a verb, still less the third person singular. . ‘You’ is the second person and doesn’t take the ‘s’ when followed by a verb. It would be like saying ‘the flow of your writes’. or ‘the way you walks’.

    Grammar and punctuation are not synonymous***.

    I hope that this is simple enough for you.

    * a measure of heat. I thought that everyone knew this.
    ** cutting their grass
    *** meaning the same thing

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    • MaureenW

       /  February 12, 2018

      Explaining is losing.

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    • Gezza

       /  February 12, 2018

      I have explained above what you do wrong Kitty. You make a persistent typogrphical error the way you use a hypen in place of a dash (en or em dash) that no properly trained typist or typsetter (or observant reader) will make. That, I think, causes a grammatical error because you hyphenate two words that you do not intend to hyphenate.

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