Media watch – Tuesday

13 February 2018

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  1. PDB

     /  February 13, 2018

    Article on Robertson’s ‘turn around’ on how good our debt levels are all things considered – I’m backing this as the reason for doing so;

    “Second, he may have had a grip on the debt situation but thought it was good politics to attack National for it anyway. Divorced from context, the amount that the government borrows looks enormous. Randomly select 10 voters and ask them to write down an appropriate dollar amount for the national debt. I bet that none of them would know where to start.
    It would not be the first time a politician sought mileage from public ignorance.”

    Sounds like a ‘positive’ campaign to me? Maybe Hager could find space to add it into his next book considering he’d have us believe certain parties are lily white when it comes to playing politics?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/101346887/grant-robertsons-aboutface-on-debt

    • robertguyton

       /  February 13, 2018

      Which parties does Hager “have us believe are lily white when it comes to playing politics”?, PDB? Can you cite even one statement from Hagar that supports you claim?

      • PDB

         /  February 13, 2018

        His actions (or inactions when it comes to criticising those on the left) speaks volumes Robert – draw your own conclusions as I did. The book ‘Dirty Politics’ was as one sided as can be with no effort to find out if certain left-wing blogs get fed information by Labour/Greens and the like (which they do). Hager at the time brushed off such criticism by saying the left-wing blogs were nothing like the dealings of Whaleoil or Kiwiblog.

        Interesting how you picked up on my Hager comment whilst ignoring the main fact Robertson has been lying through his ass during the election campaign on govt debt – especially considering he accused Joyce of lying to the public over Labour’s budget and suggested Labour would never stoop so low as to do the same.

        I guess mass hypocrisy is so common for you out on the far-left that particular inconvenient truth doesn’t even rate a mention.

        • robertguyton

           /  February 13, 2018

          So, no. You can’t. That’s alright then, isn’t it. As you were.

          • PDB

             /  February 13, 2018

            Nice to see you agree with me Robert – so you’ll be calling for Robertson to be sacked then for misleading the public? No?

        • Blazer

           /  February 13, 2018

          As you should know Clark called Hager a ‘little creep’ regarding..’Corn gate’…so that blows your argument out the…door.Dirty politics lifted the lid on the despicable lengths Key and his cronies went to ,to maintain power.As for debt,National did not make any budget allocation for defence spending that was identified,another hole in your argument.

          • PDB

             /  February 13, 2018

            You are like groundhog day – this has been explained millions of time before….Hager is a far-left GREENY & Helen shat on the Greenies many a time so no love lost there.

            Dirty politics was a huge sham that achieved nothing.

            National had room to move with unallocated spending so defense could be afforded. Labour have no such room to move and in actual fact need to borrow more to pay for their promises.

            • Blazer

               /  February 13, 2018

              backpedalling…as usual…’His actions (or inactions when it comes to criticising those on the left) ‘.Own it.

  2. PartisanZ

     /  February 13, 2018

    Here’s some in-depth reporting and commentary for those who claim it no longer exists – This might also be quite comforting for some Righties?

    ‘Selling influence: meet the lobbyists shaping New Zealand politics for a fee’ – Asher Immanuel – Spinoff.

    “Both firms [Hawker Britton and Barker Deakin, so-called ‘Left’ and ‘Right’ lobbyists] are among the many properties of the Australia/New Zealand subsidiary of WPP plc, a UK entity that is one of the “big four” multinational advertising and public relations groups … recently notable for its chief executive being paid £70 million (NZ$132 million) in 2015 ….

    Barrie Saunders, retired lobbyist – “That was the style of operation [pre-1984], the business lunch, that sort of thing.” … Then the revolution came. After 1984, successful lobbying required adherence to “hard-line economic rationalism.” … “Unless you were in that frame, you really didn’t have much influence.”

    https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/12-02-2018/meet-nzs-new-breed-of-political-lobbyists/

    Leads me to conclude, or perhaps confirms my long-held conclusion, that Inverted Totalitarianism is pretty much politically ‘universal’ and all-encompassing.

    Essentially, the Left doesn’t exist any more …

    To the minuscule extent that it does exist, it is definitely not a political player ….

  3. PartisanZ

     /  February 13, 2018

    And housing … although John Beveridge calls this a ‘Chinese lesson in how we can rebuild housing’ … ???

    “The answer is a modern redesign of the familiar and durable state house. In 1973 we built 39,611 houses, which was 9000 more than today’s maxed-out market. Most were simple one-bathroom, one-kitchen, three-bedroom, standard-design state houses that didn’t leak.

    Using modern materials and maybe 10 different designs we could easily reach the Kiwi Build targets. Procurement and productivity gains would dramatically lower the cost.”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11993074

  4. High Flying Duck

     /  February 13, 2018

    Well that came quickly.
    Bye bye Bill – thanks for the service!

  5. A stupid headline for an editorial before they know who is going to stand for National Party leadership.

    Perhaps there is no promising editor to replace whoever wrote that.