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13 February 2018

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40 Comments

  1. lurcher1948

     /  February 13, 2018

    Hoskings is mentioning charter schools a lot but does the average tax payer really care if they stay open or close, has a poll been taken?>??

  2. robertguyton

     /  February 13, 2018

    Transition to a new form.

  3. robertguyton

     /  February 13, 2018

    “Yesterday Stuff published a report based on research by human rights campaigner Harmeet Sooden that shows the National-led government and the Defence Force secretly extended the role of our troops in Iraq from “training” to “advise and assist.” This sounds suspiciously like the “mentoring” role our SAS troopers were assigned in Afghanistan. Despite denials from then Prime Minister John Key and the Defence Force, this “mentoring” role turned out to involve actual combat, including “kill or capture” missions.”

    • unitedtribes2

       /  February 13, 2018

      Im sure our trained soldiers would like to have a turn at being soldiers without having to sign up with a security (private army) company somewhere.

  4. robertguyton

     /  February 13, 2018

    “The book was followed by a Stuff Circuit investigation into what really happened at the Battle of Baghak in 2012 and which examined events around the 2004 SAS firefight where Willie Apiata earned his Victoria Cross.

    Both projects provided evidence that the Defence Force had repeatedly misled the public. In short, they raised serious questions about “transparency and accountability in the New Zealand Defence Force.”

    Ironically, journalists were not invited to General Keating’s workshop on transparency and accountability a few months later. Lawyers, academics and NGOs were welcome, but media – those whose job it is to monitor powerful institutions like the NZDF – were banned.”

  5. lurcher1948

     /  February 13, 2018

    Hell HDPA must have had a bad weekend.Yesterday it was the “labor hit job” on chris bishop and her hatred of babies who cry in cafes and today’s hatred is tenants who dont replace lightbulbs in her investment.She has said 3 times (throw them out)as if renters have no rights, well HDPA your head will explode if you keep up this Auckland behaviour.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  February 13, 2018

      Bawling babies and shrieking children running around cannoning into other diners are an absolute pest in cafes. Some people let junior stand near another table staring at the people sitting there-rather rude.

      It seems very mean of the tenants. I don’t understand this – why would you sit in the dark or grope along the hall rather than spend less that $1 on a lightbulb ? A box of 10 costs, I think, $6 at Mitre 10, and they last for ages.I know that one of theirs lasted more than two years. I can’t imagine waiting for the landlord or landlady to come and put a bulb in, how pathetic.

      • lurcher1948

         /  February 13, 2018

        If i spent $500 in rent a week i would expect the slum landlord to wipe my bum Kitty Katkin

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  February 14, 2018

          The vast majority aren’t slums, and only a fool would stay in one for $500 a week. I have rented, and replaced dead bulbs myself rather than sit in the dark because I was too mean and lazy to spend 60c on a bulb and put it in the light fitting.

      • Gezza

         /  February 13, 2018

        I’ve given you an uptick for the em dash Kitty. Keep up the good work. 👍🏼

        • Conspiratoor

           /  February 13, 2018

          Well done G, now see if you can school her on the detached eroteme

          • Gezza

             /  February 13, 2018

            Forgiveable with WordPress due to its tendency to crash the eroteme into the preceding letter.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  February 14, 2018

          I do see -word-in print, and it’s always obvious that it’s not a hyphenated word.

          • Gezza

             /  February 14, 2018

            That’s because it’s not a hyphen you are looking at in print. It’s an em dash—like these—longer than a hyphen. Typographically, you are constantly hyphenating words, thinking this is the same thing, punctuationally, making your sentences actually nonsensical. You are the only person I know who persistently does this.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  February 14, 2018

              Don’t you start.

              My keyboard only has -, unless I press something and type a series of letters or numbers,

          • Gezza

             /  February 14, 2018

            There are acceptable typographical conventions that will allow you to stop this continual, erroneous, unintended but nevertheless actual, & nonsensical, hyphenating of words. As I have patiently explained to you on numerous occasions.

            The best are:
            1. Type a space, then a hyphen, then a space – thus. (You will note the resulting punctuation ‘dash’, even in your Wordprocessing app, is actually longer than a hyphen.)
            or
            2. Type 3 hyphens in succession between the words where you wish to insert a punctuation dash, with no preceding and succeeding spaces—thus. WordPress, & your Wordprocessing app, will create an em dash.

            Over to you though. Continue typing nonsensical hyphenated words & be grateful readers make allowances for your obvious ongoing errors, or get it right.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  February 14, 2018

              I know, I know. Don’t go on and on.

              It should be obvious that it’s being used as a dash, only a very silly person would think otherwise when they see it in context.

              As I said, there is only – on the keyboard, unless one presses something and types in 5801 or something like that, and as I see – being used for either, it’s obvious that people have better things, to do.

              Readers must be very stupid if they can’t see that the – is a dash, not a hyphen.

  6. Pickled Possum

     /  February 13, 2018

    In America … Drug Safety and Media Shaped by Big Pharma
    “It should surprise no one that, in most cases, promotion of dangerous drugs and misleading health information is a direct result of conflicts of interest. For example, with the exception of CBS, every major U.S. media outlet keeps at least one person from the drug industry on its board, which clearly explains the dearth of reporting on Pharma dangers and corruption”.

    How long will it be before it happening here in
    God Zone Aotearoa New Zealand home of the Kiwis.

    This article will expose the deceptions that occur in almost all facets of health care today for no reason other than money.
    https://wakeup-world.com/2018/02/13/ghost-in-the-machine-how-big-pharma-controls-our-perception-of-drug-safety-and-effectiveness/

  7. PartisanZ

     /  February 13, 2018

    How about this? ‘It’s time to start decolonising our media’ – Miriama Aoake, Spinoff

    “Every year indigenous peoples in Australia and New Zealand go under the spotlight on Invasion Day and Waitangi Day – and every year the media finds problematic ways to report them. This won’t change while our media is still controlled by the coloniser …”

    https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/10-02-2018/its-time-to-start-decolonising-our-media/

  8. Alan Wilkinson

     /  February 13, 2018

    Bill English has stepped down.

    • Gezza

       /  February 13, 2018

      Hasn’t just stepped down, he’s resigned & will leave Parliament this month, Stuff says.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  February 13, 2018

        Yes, I see that now.

        • Gezza

           /  February 13, 2018

          Messy.

          • High Flying Duck

             /  February 13, 2018

            Or carefully planned – we’ll know in less than 9 days…

            • Blazer

               /  February 13, 2018

              ‘carefully planned’…yes just last October English said he would be leader going into the next ..election and aim to be a 3 time loser.

            • Gezza

               /  February 13, 2018

              On 31 Jan he said rumours he’d be replaced were gossip & he had the full support of his caucus to continue. So if it was carefully planned, duplicity was part of the plan.

            • Gezza

               /  February 13, 2018

              Anyway it’ll be interesting to see who the new leader & deputy are. The Nats don’t tend to piss about. Bye Paula, I expect.

            • Blazer

               /  February 13, 2018

              and of course just last week,National ‘retreat’…’Earlier in the day, Mr English told reporters he was focused on the 2020 election and that his position as leader was dependent on his performance.’

            • Blazer

               /  February 13, 2018

              around 2 years ago I predicted Bridges…looking like it.

            • Gezza

               /  February 13, 2018

              Agree he’s the most likely counter to Ardern. Jesus – oi shudda da think of wot kweshin toime is gunna be loike. With her prorideez & poverdees n his oiks.

            • Where’s Pete on this?
              Hope we don’t have to post other blogger’s views, in his absence; this one from Idiot/Savant at NoRightTurn is a bit…pointed!
              ” Good riddance to Bill English

              “So, Bill English has resigned as leader of the National Party and will be leaving Parliament. Good fucking riddance. He’s done a lot of shitty things in his career, and I’m glad to see the back of him. There’s his role in pushing climate change denial as National leader in the early 2000s, which delayed real action on climate change until… well, we still haven’t seen it, have we? There’s his racist response to the foreshore and seabed case, which in turn helped push Labour down the racist path of dispossession. There’s his constant battle to undermine abortion rights and women’s health. And then, there’s his own personal dishonesty in claiming to live in Dipton so he could get the taxpayer to pay for the house in Karori he actually lived in. Bluntly, the man was a racist and a thief, and the sooner he goes, the better.”

  9. lurcher1948

     /  February 13, 2018

    A little song for Bill English…

  10. lurcher1948

     /  February 13, 2018

    David Garrett does our PM have a criminal past like you a failed ACTing MP who had to resign???No i dont think so…just saying

    David Garrett
    Morrison: Ardern smarter than Bridges?? Are you freakin’ serious man? You have actually met Ardern, right?

    Granted, Bridges is no intellectual giant…but he would do the fish ‘n’ chips shop kid like a dinner…

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  February 13, 2018

      David Garrett does NOT, in fact, have a criminal past. His assault conviction was quashed and the passport thing was dismissed.

      He does not have ANY convictions. Anyone who says that he has either hasn’t done their homework or is being deliberately untruthful.

      I agree that Jacinda A is not the NZ equivalent of Brain of Britain, though. Let’s hope that the voters work this out as soon as possible.

  11. Patzcuaro

     /  February 13, 2018

    A wise move by Bill English, 3 or more years in opposition is not much to look forward to. Better to for him to go now, he no doubt will have lots of options after a well earned break.

  12. Blazer

     /  February 13, 2018

    no obvious successor…maybe a trial ,need a balance Sth/Nth,male/female,city/regional.

  13. Kitty Catkin

     /  February 13, 2018

    What a naff portrait of Michelle Obama. It looks like a dress shop sale poster. I wonder if her self-flattering prophecy will come true.